United States Mint blockbuster issues continue at noon (ET) today with the premiere of the "Type 2" 2021-W Proof American Silver Eagle, which features an enhanced obverse and a completely new reverse.
Demand is expected to be intense for this collectible which has a product limit of just 300,000 coins and an initial household order limit of three.
The newly-redesigned piece continues the U.S. Mint’s 35-year old program which, up until this point, had showcased the same coin designs since their debut. This includes Adolph A. Weinman’s Walking Liberty design which first appeared on obverses of 1916-1947 half dollars and John M. Mercanti’s heraldic eagle image that originated on reverses of 1986 American Silver Eagles.
A 2021-W Proof Silver Eagle bearing these original classic, "Type 1," designs launched in February. It sold out within minutes.
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An initial release date of July 1st had been planned for the new coin but that was pushed back until today as part of a broader schedule shuffle. The date changes gave the Mint more time to implement website and policy enhancements to deal with BOT traffic issues which customers have experienced while ordering high-demand products.
Refreshed and New Coin Designs
Weinman’s full-length depiction of Liberty wrapped in a flag still graces the newest coin’s obverse. This image, however, was refreshed using technological advancements. The Mint notes that this design is "a closer reflection of Weinman’s original vision and includes the addition of his traditional artist mark." Other inscriptions are traditional and include "LIBERTY," "IN GOD WE TRUST" and "2021.
Created by Emily Damstra and sculpted by Michael Gaudioso, the redesigned reverse (tails side) offers the likeness of an eagle as it prepares to land. The eagle is carrying an oak branch as it might be doing to build a nest.
"UNITED STATES OF AMERICA," "E PLURIBUS UNUM," "1 OZ. FINE SILVER," and "ONE DOLLAR" are all inscribed on the reverse along with a "W" mintmark indicating that the coin is produced at the U.S. Mint’s facility in West Point.
New Anti-counterfeiting Edge
The newest edition also contains a new reed pattern variation to assist in combating fakes.
Unchanged, U.S. Mint-provided coin specifications follow.
Proof Silver Eagle Specifications
| Denomination: | $1 |
| Finish: | Proof |
| Composition: | 99.9% Silver |
| Weight: | 1.000 troy oz. (31.103 grams) |
| Diameter: | 1.598 inches (40.60 mm) |
| Edge: | Reeded |
| Mint and Mint Mark: | West Point – W |
| Privy Mark: | none |
Price and Ordering
When released at noon ET, the Type 2, 2021-W Proof American Silver Eagle may be ordered directly from the U.S. Mint via its online page dedicated to American Eagle coins. Pricing is $73 per coin.
Each proof Silver Eagle ships encapsulated within a black presentation box that is adorned with the United States Mint seal. An outer sleeve wraps the box, and it contains an image of the new reverse design. In addition, the coin is accompanied by a U.S. Mint Certificate of Authenticity that bears an image of the obverse.
Not so fast on the celebration, I have an enrollment for 2 coins also. For previous items that I have had enrollments for, I have received an email that the items have been ordered showing the order number and the credit card will show the pending charge. However this morning I didn’t receive the usual email and there isn’t a pending charge on my credit card. Hopefully all is well but will soon know for sure.
I got the USM confirmation email at 12:55 this morning, my credit card has the pending charge from the USM, and the USM order history for my account shows the order is in processing status. I feel confident that my enrollment is good to go. I hope your enrollment goes thru .
Do when know when these bad boys ship?
Log into the mint, go to “My Account”, select “Oder History”, then select each order number unit you find your order for the ASE.
I tried to join the enrollment but it is no longer available. Looks like I’ll be on at noon but the ASE is not my biggest concern – the remaining Morgans and Peace dollar, especially the Peace, is the one I am most worried about trying to obtain. In fact, if I could be guaranteed a Peace I would deny the ASE but I assure you I will try either way… good luck fellow cheeseheads, we are all that is left in the coin world.
Kaiser —
I too received a confirmation of my order (for one coin). But I’ll probably log in to the Mint’s site just to see how long the order window stays open. Let’s all hope that the overall ordering process goes as smoothly as Jeff Bezos’s rocket launch and that it is a harbinger of how the future coin releases are handled.
— Mike
I too have an enrollment (for two coins) and received confirmation this morning. I logged in to the site to check status and although the site is slow, it seems to be running smoother than all other release days.
… And at 9:18 PST they are gone.
Kaiser — On a whim I decided to order a second one for my brother (who does collect coins). Everything went well until I got a message to prove I was a human. I guess my browser denies cookies and Javascript is disabled. I must have hit that verification that I am a human button 20+ times and still no-go. So I went back to the shopping cart and tried again. Then, at 9:18, I got the message that it was sold out. So it looks like my brother won’t be getting that coin afterall. But worse yet I guess… Read more »
Well that is weird – I did not get a message to prove I was a human.
Maybe because I don’t have an enrollment?
Same thing happened to me. I left them a negative feedback.
Kaiser —
My “Enrollment Coin” shipped today and its charge against my credit card done on 7/20. So it appears that all is good … but I especially appreciate your good thoughts.
In return I thought you might like the picture I took during a visit to Nuremburg in August 2012. Fyi you could have purchased this collectible for only 690 Euros then (about $810 US today).
Schöne Grüße — Mike
Kaiser — I know you know that I am a collector, not a hoarder or flipper. But from reading the replies on this blog it appears that “the Mint’s system” is at least somewhat inconsistent. While we’re on your very valid point about making our positions known to the Mint, might I suggest they add a “TEST COIN” (a no-charge item) for people to order … just to check out all of their browser and cookie settings so that they do not miss out on future coins like I did on this one. Also as you know, I only ordered… Read more »
John Mercanti Best Heraldic “Eagle” ever this one is not even close. But don’t worry Mike Mezack will be hawking these soon for a great “DEAL”…………… LOL
I also did not receive the email verification. However, this shows on my CC statement. I could be so lucky (probably not)
Image didn’t show properly. According to the CC statement I have a pending charge of $438.00. Got the feeling that is going to change.
Good luck to all
I wondered the same thing. I just figured when the order was processed, it would just be for the 3 HHOL rather than the 6 I’ve always been enrolled for.
Who knows, maybe I’ll get lucky.
I am wondering, is the HHOL based on shipping address, billing address, your account email address? what if you have 2 or more separate enrollments for the same coin?
APMEX is almost $200 on eBay.
Pinehurst is sending out emails wanting to buy these for 125.00, can you imagine? I guess they want more than their allotment. I can’t find the words!
I got an email this morning from the capital mint, if I bought three they would give me another $100 plus postage. What a deal! I kind of think I’ll say no and just delete the email. Sometimes you just got to say no!
There is an Ebay listing for 20 (twenty) for just $3,000. It states that it has 4 day shipping and would get to my Zip by 7/26/21. Says it is a confirmed order box of 20! Sounds like a questionable listing – or is this a bulk buyer FLIPPER! BEWARE!
Nothing surprises me anymore.
I believe originally you could order up to 25. Seth and KW for verification please.
Thanks KW. As much as it pains me not to get 25, I’m ok with a few more collectors jumping on board. The more the merrier!
the mint gave an enrollment maximum order number of 20 and a maximum household number of 3 on the day of release. i have had an open enrollment of the proofs set at 10 and got my email stating the charges and the shippment of them.
American Eagle 2021 One Ounce Silver Proof CoinWEST POINT (W)Qty: 10
TOTAL:$730.00
Subtotal:$730.00Gift Box/Wrapping:$0.00Shipping & Handling:$0.00Order Total:$730.00
this is from an email i got from the mint. my open enrollments on proof american eagles has been set at ten for a couple years. sometime in the spring i raised the amount to 20 but it seems they used the previous years purchase amount of 10. maybe that is why i supposedly am getting the 10 count order filled? i won’t know until i receive the shipment. my credit card shows one order for 10 billed and the other order for 1 billed. my enrollments have been this way for a couple years now. they are also set… Read more »
A bit laggy but able to order one to go with my enrollment order of one. Maybe 3 minutes total to checkout. Odd thing though, when I look at order history. On my computer it shows only the enrollment, on my tablet it shows both.
Bought a Proof 70 a month ago for August delivery for $224. Did get lucky and got three on the mints web sight this morning. However, I only wanted two. Did not want to modify the order since it had already gone thru. Maybe swap for a previous Morgan I did not get.
No enrollment here, I signed on as a Guest right at 12:00 on the button. The order process went smoothly and two Proof 2021-W Type 2 ASE’s will soon be on their way.
Isn’t it ironic how we are always surprised when things go the way they are supposed to?
12:23 p.m.: ‘Currently Unavailable’
Wow, those sure sold out fast.
wow….well at least it seemed the order process was smooth for a change.and the sales lasted more than 5 minutes
I agree. Something is afoot. Although, a mintage of 300,000 for something that isn’t a Morgan, and is a mid-cycle (minimal) facelift makes me think this wasn’t exactly a collectable.
I’m not planning to sell my coins, but the fact that it was so easy to transact makes me think this was as popular as a red-headed stepson …
… or the mint fixed the website.
Hey…Why is everyone slamming red-headed males! I’m a red head and am feeling a bit of racism here! LOL. Wanted to see if anyone else is looking to purchase the 4 coin Proof gold American Eagle set when it becomes available on the 29th. I’m going to pick one up even though I’ll have to pay a severe premium for the gold.
Got the 3rd after my early morning email for the 1st two, but it seemed like the website was bombed today. I do not think they really fixed anything, all BS. Very sad.
so, managed to get through a regular purchase in about 8 minutes. had to disable my ad-blocker in chrome because the ‘human-verification’ page was blocked by it. but it did eventually go through, no dreaded ‘page timeout’ like you got before all the time. so not exactly trouble-free, but not full of sucker-punches like before.
I was not emotionally invested in this particular coin as I’m not an annual collector of this, so just having one of the new design is fine for me, especially since the premium over silver on this one is a bit steep (nearly $50).
the human verification page is what kept me from getting the coin. I held the button and it just kept going ‘try again’ until the coin was gone… I’m so upset.
stopping bots is hard, because they try to emulate people. everything you do on a web page can theoretically be done by a bot. the whole ‘hold down button and let go at right time’ thing is in fact difficult to program a bot around. same thing with other challenges that ask for you to identify the fragmented pictures of trucks or whatever. but I don’t understand why you have to remove ad blockers to even go through the challenge page – that seems like an excuse to just get you to disable your ad blocker.
Got in and ordered 2 – Unbelievable!!
Wow…that was weird…my order this morning actually went SMOOTH! No error messages!!! Not to mention i signed on 10 minutes late!. Got my 1 coin ordered. Happy!! Now hopefully i have no problem with the S mint when its released…since i have an enrollment for that!.
glad it went smooth for everyone – this time I got screwed…. couldn’t get past the human verification part. It just kept making me reverify and then it sold out.
I enrolled for three, looks good to go. Oh man I would not be selling these to a flipper for a measly 125
It took me about 6 times with error messages before I was able to get one
I couldn’t get past the BOT protector… sold out while in my shopping cart.
I’m so annoyed… this was their “improvement”??? Totally kept me from getting one – I need to figure out what happened so this doesn’t happen again.
Did you get the “You’re not a human”, I did as well and didn’t make out.
Scary when a robot is assessing whether you are a human, then decides you aren’t.
That’s exactly what happened. This is their new BOT protector but I could not get it to work… I held the button as requested (BOT cannot hold only click) and it gave the check mark but then said ‘try again’, that kept happening and I couldn’t even start over… I was so upset about that but gotta find a way around it… I didn’t get this one but I hope I can get the S ASE and the August Morgan and Peace coins… so maybe this was a good practice round … big FAIL for me
Big T, to help trouble shoot the problem you encountered, so it does not happen next time: 1) What browser were you using? ; 2) Were you using a smart phone/mobile device or a laptop/PC? and 3) Did you have an Ad Blocker running? If you had your Ad Blocker turned on, you should pause it or turn it off for the US Mint site.
Got on before 12:00 and was able to order 3 around 12:04. Used a work PC so no request for the “prove your human” message.
I used a PC and got the prove you’re human message. Someone said it was the ad blocker… that makes sense.
I’m still amazed being an IT guy that the U.S. mint still struggles with these releases. I was down for 2 coins through the enrollment program and received my order confirmation a day earlier than the release date but decided to try and get a third on release day. According to the website which was very wonky to say the least My order went through but I can’t access my order history which shows 2 orders, one for qty 2 coins and a separate one for 3 coins??? I’m guessing that these 2 orders will be combined in the background… Read more »
Logged on at 11:45 where had to press & hold a toggle letting me login. Attempted the press & hold twice before actually worked. Went to the new silver dollar page and got it in my cart and paid. Whole process of getting to page, putting in shipping bag and paying took less than two minutes. Got my US Mint notice that they’re processing my order quickly too. Shortly thereafter got my PayPal notice of payment pending then another email from US Mint confirming my order. US Mint not taking PayPal anymore so couldn’t use my PayPal Credit. Good thing… Read more »
Ha ha ha Dubya. Yeah less than two minutes was outstanding for high in demand coins and I was thinking that too but hoping I was just many in the crowd to experience this.
It looks like the Mint turns off the PayPal payment option on the day of high demand releases. I used that option to pay for an item a few weeks ago but it wasn’t available yesterday – I just checked and it is available again today. I wonder why?
Unfortunately for me for what ever reason the website kept on kicking me out and I went as far as reaching confirm order and yes I started the order process at 12:00 and yes I am enrolled.
Ordered 3 at noon. Went smooth but slow. Transaction done in about a minute. Others I know got in and some had errors that included the human verification confirmation that messed them up. Not sure if the “fix” is in. The success rate was less than 50%.
That damn human verification boned me in the past but not this time. By less than 50% success was based on 5 people (including me) ordering and only 2 of us being successful. I may have been over a minute but not by much. Couldn’t believe I had no errors though. Got lucky after talking to my friends.
Good going on a successful transaction. Unfortunate to learn that some of your colleagues did not acquire this coin.
I was surprised I didn’t have any hiccups of being informed I am not Human, getting kicked off US Mint website and my favorite, being “banned” from US Mint website while trying to proceed, checkout and pay for an item.
Makes me wonder if US Mint website needs to better define what problem is with a notification to user of the discrepancy so user can correct an error before being kicked off site and starting over?
They moved above 50% since to their surprise their order came through. 3 out of 5 success rate.
They would not be in business.
Pleased to seeing others have speedy transactions.
HAHAHAH RCTV is asking something like 250.00 for the BULLION version of this coin! THEY ARE NUTS!
In my opinion, NGC and PCGS should NOT grade bullion strikes that come in monster boxes and tubes of 20. Those are not collectible coins, and should not be slabbed. They are for bullion investors, period. Annoys me so much that they send a monster box to PCGS that has to be graded (either MS69 or MS70 for all of them) one by one and yet our “real” collectible coins, proofs, and old silver dollars sit in the que and wait. I still have a beautiful coin somewhere at PCGS for weeks now and they are flooded with grading bullion… Read more »
Okay, please help me out as I’m a bit of an idiot.
Its regarding the listing https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2021-W-American-Silver-Eagle-Type-2-PCGS-MS69-First-Strike-/304034769864?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0
is he selling the uncirculated version (21EGN) which isn’t released till September… but using language in his listing title for a 2021-W coin of:
“PRE-SALE Estimated shipping date week of July 26, 2021” in order to fool people into buying this, thinking it is a proof coin?
he won’t be able to fulfil orders for another 6 weeks at best … so it’s just an all- round con isn’t it?
that’s pretty low.
edit: I am an idiot. Reading the words on the last photo of this article
”This CoinNews photo shows the edges of bullion Type 2 American Silver Eagles. The bullion coins are minted with investors in mind, and were released a few weeks earlier. Notice their anti-counterfeit reeded edge variation. The proof Silver Eagle released today for collectors features the same security feature.“
The mint doesn’t list bullion eh? Just flogs it to coin wholesalers?
Had you received a confirmation email (apart from your original “order placed” email)?
Awful. Backorder could also mean that you’re on the list for the number of cancelled orders? Who knows what US Mint will be doing after all the COVID BS the Mint is hiding behind about low mintages: Maybe ramped up production when Mint fully opens and mints 2021 stamped coins later this year or in 2022? Behooves me that US Mint is closed when so many private business open: Meat packing facilities, grocery stores, now stadiums can be at full capacity, etc. – yet Mint decides they’re still on vacation? US Mint states silver blanks in short supply but I… Read more »
Kaiser, My understanding is by law, the Mint has to make the bullion coins to fulfill demand before making the collector versions. Remember 2009? I’m a bit surprised what with the Chinese Covid fiasco and demand for the new designed bullion coins that we even have an opportunity to purchase these Proofs.I have to say that I chuckled a bit when typing the “by law”, as law doesn’t seem to be very pertinent in todays society.
Spot on Larry. Selectively enforced too.
Trying to silence you?
What % of the 300k went to bulk purchasers again? Trying to understand at 3 coins how many people were able to purchase (ballpark with assumptions) vs estimated traffic with flurry of mint emails, announcements, etc.
I think one part of what a lot of people aren’t looking at is the total number of enrollments multiplied by three. If there were 30,000 enrollments you had up to 90,000 coins automatically eliminated from the $300,000 available. My guess is it was in excess of 30,000 enrollments. I think this is probably the reason why the enrollment program was stopped for these silver eagles over a month ago. Now I could be wrong but a lot of people use the enrollment program, I’ve had my enrollment set up for years. I always ensure that my enrollments are active… Read more »
The enrollments are open to any collectors. I got my 3 coins and they are being shipped today. Just join the enrollments and don;t fret the hassels of opening day. Unfortunately, the new Morgans and Peace dollar are not on the enrollments
10% (30,000) pieces.
Still can’t figure out why US hype the crap out of coins that have high mintage but try to make it a rarity. For example the 2021 gold proof sovereign mintage is Like 7500 that’s a Rarity. Not the 300,000 proof silver eagle cmon people. Don’t give in to the freaking BS!
The every day collector may not have $2,000 for a coin. But $73 is affordable
If you enjoy coin collection you like these coins. Dealing with the mint may not always be enjoyable, but if you think this is BS, then quit buying from the mint and stop complaining. Just grow up!
Lol I did quit buying from the mint I don’t buy US coins. I rather buy UK coins and others. Thank you very much.
Good points, Sir Kaiser, pertaining to this topic. Additionally, I would add that a Nation’s population mostly collect the coins of their own country for various reasons. Thus, Americans desire and collect American coins, Canadians collect Canadian coins, British collect British coinage, etc., for the most part. Here’s to coin collecting, “the King of Hobbies and the Hobby of Kings!”
A silver proof set of Australian coins was just released. Mintage of 1,000 … but you can buy a set easily if it tickles your fancy. https://eshop.ramint.gov.au/2021-fine-silver-proof-six-coin-year-set?_cldee=ZGFuaWVsQDE5NzcubmV0LmF1&recipientid=contact-3c7552c142b3e51180dc0050569462de-269a86a624884ddbb435ce609cbade5e&utm_source=ClickDimensions&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Mint%20News%20EDM%20-%2022%20July%202021%20&esid=beea58f6-1ae5-eb11-813a-0050569462de (The gold version has a mintage of 50, yet still available). The difference being, our Mint absolutely reams us when it comes to pricing. 6 coins with a combined weight of a little over 2 oz, for a bargain price of $295 USD. You can see why I think US coins are a good buy. The Royal Australian Mint has a reseller network to assist, which sell at the same price that they… Read more »
Daniel, Aren’t the Kookaburra (sp) coins minted at the Perth Mint very popular? I’ve bought a few of he kilo kookaburras coins several years ago when silver was around $14/oz. thinking I’d sell them when silver got back to $50-$55.00/oz. But the coins are so well minted I’m not in any rush to part with them, even though I’ve already more than doubled my initial investment.
I believe the mint programs are very unorganized. I reserved 3 proofs .
They even sent me an email saying they would be shipped soon. When the billing invoice came to me they are sending me 1 coin. Everytime would make an inquiry about the issue
I would get a different answer.
Uncle Sam knows how to make excellent coins but, they sure as hell don’t know how to market them.
J Bieler LT. USN (RETIRED)
My order didn’t go through yesterday, but today I received an email notification from the Mint that my order did go through. I wonder how it’ll be for the D and S 2021 Morgan dollars. I feel like I caught a bullet in my teeth. I also never got the “are you human” BOT in my ordering.
My bet is that there were some trying to order more than 3 after enrollment, and that they canceled orders where >3 at shipping address, then went back to the shopping cart orders just missing the cut. But what do I know in this upside down world. I was taught only two sexes, but some feel there are more…
I saw that earlier this year, but decided against bumping each to 10 as I had already blown a bunch of cash and the Morgan and Peace Dollars were coming. Plan was to create 10 sets for kids and their cousins. Mint sure screwed that up!
I was able to order two of the privy mint mark Morgans, so I’m hoping for the rest as well. My real desire is for the Peace Dollar. The mint is toying with the idea of making the Morgans and Peace an annual issue. We will see. Still I count myself VERY fortunate.
Not to worry, Sir Kaiser, your online order for the one 2021-W Type 2 ASE Proof has not been cancelled and the US Mint is not trying to cancel you! Since the order was placed on BackOrder, your order has been confirmed by the Mint but it’s fulfillment and shipping date has been set back or delayed. And of course the Mint will not charge/bill your credit card for the purchase until it ships out.
Do we need to wait until October for these to ship as well?
Looking on ebay, it looks like dealers have them already, and in grade PF70. When ever our orders are received, I doubt they’ll be PF70.
I just got confirmation that my order has been shipped. I Love the Enrollment program. I have used it for many years – makes life easy. I been getting coins from the mint since the mid 60’s – snail mail was the only order and delivery option back then for all you young PUPs. HA HA
Random fact: We live closer to the time of Tyrannosaurus Rex than they lived to Stegosaurus.
I remember, as a kid, climbing on the life-size Triceratops that is (was?) in front of the Smithsonian Museum of Natural History.
The sight of a little Mammoth sitting on top of a Triceratops must have entertained the folks passing by…
Mine changed to backorder today also….ugh. What are the crazies at the mint doing???
Pisses me off especially after getting both emails
This was a total farce. Doubt any collectors like myself were able to purchase one of the 300,000 that were suppose to be limited to 3 per family. At 12:00 noon EST I was able to place a coin in my bag. I went immediately to check out and after inputting my information received an error message. I tried contact the mint and finally got a call back from a .int agent who offered absolutely no help and was laughing at me through the whole call. There was no news coverage of this terrible event. I found many people selling… Read more »
Wayne, Are you registered with the Mint? I only ask because you typed that you were “inputting my information” after placing the coin in the cart. I have all my info already set (address, shipping address, cc, etc) so with one or two clicks I’m out! When trying to procure any limited product from our esteemed Mint, time is of the essence!
I also experienced web site problems; could not even get onto the site. Kept getting a message that my IP address could not be recognized.
Well,
I logged in and was checking out and the screen went to “The page cannot be found”. So I tried to to buy two coins again. By the time I clicked Check Out the coins were sold out. I was bummed so I went to another site and bought a 1/10 AGE and an uncirculated ASE. This morning I get an email “Your U.S. Mint order has been confirmed!” I’m very happy. 🙂 LOL
My experience purchasing the 2020-W Type ASE went as follows. Log-on went smoothly. Accessing the screen to add the item to my bag was slow and appeared not to be working. I tapped the “Enter” key a second time and, wah-lah, I had TWO in my bag. What do I do? I decided to purchase both coins. (Prior experience with the Mint’s website told me “Don’t think too long while in the middle of the process”.) So I proceeded to checkout. Here I had the most trouble. My credit card info is stored in my Mint account. When I had… Read more »
Maybe the U.S. Mint should change its motto on their official website & its official
e-mails from “Connecting America Through Coins” to “Disconnecting Coin Collectors Often” Sad!
NumisdudeTX
Oops. Should be 2021-W ASE in prior post.
I love the enrollment program. Without fighting the mints websight, I actually have the coins in my hands as of 5PM today. And at the time I enrolled, the limit was 5 coins. I expected my order to be reduced or actually cancelled, but all 5 arrived today.
I am still waiting for my coins to be shipped. The USPS has been notified, but they have not yet received the coins from the center.The enrollment did work
I had an order in processing status, so I called the mint x2. The 2nd call was fruitful, the lady told me yesterday that there was a problem in printing the labels for the USPS, but it was still good to go. She was also able to give me the tracking # that had not been printed yet. The coins are now in the system and the tracking # shows up when I track it in the USPS system. Hopefully your’s will be good also.
I just checked with the USPS and they have my package. It should be delivery on Wednesday
Robert, I do as well love the enrollment program. The same happened to me but here is the kicker I received 2 enrollment shipments via UPS with 5 coins each with different order numbers. I now have a total of 10 (ten) 2021-W ASE’s. Curious as to how this happened?
I am soooo not looking forward to Aug 3rd…
If you think Aug 3rd is going to be bad, wait until we all try and do anything Aug 10th and 12th
Kaiser – while I have an enrollment for the S-mint ASE’s, I would like to obtain the Peace Dollar. Hence the potential palpitations jumping through the hoops of the mint online ordering process.
August coins
Do US man gets crazy traffic during the sale of one coin what about August when you have two top coins going on sale the same day it’s going to be freaking crazy and it’s going to get bogged down
The peace dollar going on sale in August and on the same day do you have another silver dollar so I can’t imagine how the US mint say it’s going to handle that and which do you choose to get because by the time you logon for one the other one will be gone
Yeah I learned a special trick about logging into the que when at Disney trying to get on the Star Wars ride!! It filled up in seconds!!!! Much like the us mint site but it is all about timing and refresh the browser at the right time people!! Aug 10 coin sale will crash the system again,,people will be attempting both coins so 2x traffic,, whether you go for either coin the site is going to be hit vicious. A coin swapping after that day…Cannot be in 2 places at once lmao
Yeah , the peace dollar has only 100,000 available and the other 300,000, but kind of irrelevant since the sight will take the same traffic during the frenzy but the reality is getting both in one day possible..
if you go for the peace will it be gone and then when you go for the other silver dollars it’s gone.. seem going for the 300,000 odds are better?? Lol
Yep my new eagle shipped yesterday baby!!! Next is the peace!!! And going for the double in one baby man!!! Again all about timing that darn internet browser to load the page and REFRESH man!! The key is refreshing before 1 million other…Seconds make all the difference in with world when order in the frenzy like this!!!
Enrollments vanished? I have had 2 enrollments for the proof silver American Eagle coins for several years, 2 shipped to me and 2 shipped to my granddaughters at their address. July 6 I received 2 emails to verify that the addresses were correct. July 17 I logged in and both enrollments were active and everything was ready to go. July 20 the emails I was expecting to see weren’t there. Called and they have no clue as to what happened to the enrollments. Before noon July 20 purchased 4 total from 2 sellers on eBay. So I’ll be getting the… Read more »
Carl – enrollments vanished?? I hope not. I’ve been enrolled for 6 (5 for my grandkids) for a few years.
As for any of the emails they usually send out, I haven’t heard squat. Not for the type 2’s, not for the type 1’s, not for the Silver sets. I did get them for the Clad sets (yippee!).
Although my order status shows processing and my CC shows as pending, I’m not real optimistic that I will actually receive them. And that would really suck.
Kaiser – I found out why I wasn’t getting any of those emails. Seems when you change your email address in Account Settings, it doesn’t change in the My Enrollments Billing & Delivery Tab. That still had an address I stopped using 4 years ago.
Don’t recall if I got those particular emails in 2020 and earlier.
Carl, Did you sign up for the Type 2 ASE’s or had you been a previous Type 1 ASE enrollment customer. I got a notice some time ago from the Mint informing me that I had to enroll separately for the new designed coins. I did and got notification that two have been shipped. I have to admit that I wasn’t sure the enrollment program would work being that it is a government entity we are dealing with!
Kaiser, I hear you brother. I feel as though I’m preparing for battle every time a new coin that I’d like to collect is released.Thank the Numismatic God I was able to subscribe to the enrollment program for all the Type 2’s. Still very anxious about securing some of the remaining Morgans and Peace Dollars.I might have to see a Psychiatrist before the release date of the Reverse Proof Set.And I’m still waiting to actually hold one in my hand.
Kaiser, I was watching Mike Mezak on HSN hawking his “limited edition sold out “ coins and he said something that I found interesting. He said the Reverse Proof Set that will be coming out will be made in 100,000 or 150,000 sets. Now I rarely believe a single thing that comes out of his mouth, but I was wondering if he has advance notice from the Mint of their product limit for this set. The bottom line is if they do mint something close to 100,000 sets then we have a fair chance to procure at least one.He also… Read more »
I, too, am hoping to get the 2 coin reverse proof set. Personally, I don’t trust anything Mezak says, but if, as you said, he is right maybe there’s a shot at getting one. I think it’s going to more along the line of 50/75,000 and a limit of 1 similar to the 2020 End of WW2 ASE or limited edition silver proof set.
I am also wondering if all 3 of the 2021 ASE’s will be part of the limited edition set since there are 3 less Quarters.
I was wondering about that as well! Although I only thought they’d add one of the coins to the set.One always has to peruse the Mint site to keep up on these. Does anyone see why a particular coin, say the 2021 W Proof Type1,would be more coveted coming out of the Congratulation Set versus just buying the coin. They mint them all together but putting a few in different packages makes them worth so much more to some.The hawkers call these “subsets.”
To Larry T. When I signed on and looked at the enrollments on July 17 both had July 20 for the release date so in my case even though the enrollments were from previous years for the 1986 reverse type all appeared to be in order. I suspect that some time in the future the enrollments will magically reappear on my account.
Carl, You are probably right. I was lucky enough to have 2 ASE’s shipped to me as of yesterday and am hoping that I receive 10, like a lucky few have previously stated.I’m just wondering who’s order is going to be cancelled because people at the Mint can’t count to three. Unless they are going to mint more than 300,000 coins. I ordered another coin early on the release date and it’s been confirmed and is being processed, but who knows?
Just received notification from the Mint that my 3rd ASE is on the way. I’m forced to give major kudos to the Mint.
Thank Kaiser, I’m hoping your situation with your additional on-line order ends favorably for you as well. By the way, I enjoyed what your wife said about you putting up with the Mint in an earlier post. She sounds like a keeper to me!
Kaiser, I wonder if that’s going to be in effect going forward. I did enroll for 10 of the Burnished ASE’s and haven’t adjusted that number in my account. I don’t want to provide them any opportunity to screw things up.
By the way, do you know someone in the Mint? I’m always amazed about the information you seem to pull out of thin air. Its always greatly appreciated.
Kaiser, I hope you are right and I get to collect 10 of the burnished ASE’s. I’ve been collecting them since 2006 and have to say I liked the price I paid for them in ‘06 much better. They were $19.99 each! Shame I didn’t get 100.
Sir Kaiser, the stated situation of the problem with your credit card for your online order of the one 2021-W Type 2 ASE Proof coin (currently on backorder) sounds so absurd and unbelievable for the reasons you’ve already mentioned. By the way, was this same credit card used for your enrollment order for two of the coins which was successfully charged to your credit card? It almost sounds like the Mint representative you spoke to just made up that excuse. At the expense of having to endure another frustrating conversation with a Mint customer service representative, it might be worth… Read more »
Interesting. Last night (Saturday 24 July) I checked my cc website. There was a pending charge for two 2021-W T2 ASEs. My Mint account showed 2 coins back-ordered.
Today (Sunday 25 July), the back order is still active; however, the pending charge has vanished.
Now that these coins are showing up to our doorsteps I was curious as to thoughts on having them graded. I have not sent coins in for grading in over 10 years but rethinking due to the new design.
The added expense is what steered me away from grading. From being a grading services member, their fees, round trip shipping, and insurance the costs add up. When sending my coins in I knew which ones would grade 70 and indeed came back as 70. I will probably keep them as they are from the mint.
Rooster,
I concur with Kaiser’s comment about the coins being much more impressive looking in OGP. IMO, the added cost to get them certified isn’t worth it. Unless, of course, you’re looking to do an entire ASE set in Certified PF-70’s
Crazy but actually thought of removing the 69’s and putting them back in the original boxes.
Is anyone else still waiting?
mine have been stuck is a state of “PROCESSING” since I got a confirmation email.
All of my orders are now shipped and scheduled to be here this week.
Hopeful that everyone here gets their coins. I am grateful for sure that they are coming considering past issues
Kaiser: I hope it works out and optimistic it will for you. Wishing all the best.
Great news! It’s upsetting to not get an order in but to have one in limbo of being cancelled had to be frustrating.
My order was confirmed opening day then sat in ‘processing’ until this afternoon. I just got the shipping notification 5 minutes ago. Don’t give up hope just yet! 😉
Daniel, I received the two enrollment Eagles today! Hooray! I have a third that’s supposed to be delivered on Friday. These two were scheduled to be delivered on Wednesday, but obviously got here sooner. By the way, I see that The Coin Vault is selling the new Type 2 W ASE for $379.98 in PR70.
Kaiser, I agree with you. I like my collection in their OGP as “raw” specimens! I may be old school, but I’ve always thought that the packaging of any collectible is as important as the product, well almost. I’ve purchased a few graded coins in the past but the majority of my collection is all original. I’m also amazed why anyone would think buying a MS70 coin (of any year) that’s available in 100’s of thousands is a good investment. I know if you wait a decade or so, you’ll probably be in the green, but I can do much… Read more »
LarryT,
I’ve given a number of family members a set of Birth year coins because I believe everyone should have that even if they have no interest in coin collecting. And I told them that the condition of the packaging is almost as important as the coin itself to the point of showing them how to open the box of the proof sets, silver if they were born after 1992, without damaging the tabs or tearing the corners.
Whether or not they heed that advice is up to them.
Kaiser, I too could care less if someone only wants to collect graded coins or OGP coins. The way I look at it, it’s their money and choice. But something I’ve wondered about is the integrity of these grading companies. Either the Mint has gotten extremely good at producing 70’s or maybe some of these “hawkers” are pressuring them to deliver these so called perfect coins. It certainly wouldn’t be the first time for corruption to rear its head. Have any of you ever seen the difference between a 70 or 69 graded coin? They look the same to me.Every… Read more »
I guess managing 100,000+ shipments would be a bit of a tall order. Amazon has spoiled us with their efficiency. I’ve just had two orders change status to “SHIPPED”, so that’s a relief. Wait, what the?? Two orders ??? I was a bit scared to post this as I would face the wrath of the community, but anyway: https://youtu.be/EHL7nY62P5o 5 orders, 5 unique accounts and 5 different household addresses … but the Mint getting rid of PayPal as a payment option threw me. I had to scramble and have just two credit cards used for payment. I now have an… Read more »
As of this morning, the shipping label has been created. Until it moves past that point and the charge re-appears on my CC statement, I will try and maintain my Alfred E. Neuman persona
My three were shipped on July 22nd. Expected Delivery is July 28th. Thank goodness for the Enrollment option. I, too, have never had a coin graded. The OGP is much more attractive than a holder.
Thanks for your your input regarding grading. I agree on the OGP.
My two were ordered through the enrollment program and were shipped out on July 24th (Saturday) via USPS and were delivered in my box today on July 26th (Monday). I am really fond of John M. Mercanti’s original Heraldic Eagle design (Type 1), and so accustomed to it, that this new “Eagle Landing” design (Type 2) will take some time to appreciate. By comparison, the new Type 2 design by Emily Damstra looks somewhat like Mercanti’s more recent Australian Wedge-Tailed Eagle designs he has created for the Perth Mint (IMO).
Rich, Personally, I’ve never liked Mercanti’s design. To me it looks too official, like I’m looking at the Seal of the President. This eagle landing at least looks more natural. The reverse of the Walking Liberty half dollar was always my favorite. Or go really retro and use some of early 1800’s style eagles, that would’ve been cool! Just my humble opinion.