Two of the most anticipated numismatic releases of the year happen today after a delay from their initial June 1st scheduled appearance. At Noon (ET), and likely available for not long after, the United States Mint will begin accepting pre-orders for the 2021-D Morgan Silver Dollar and the 2021-S Morgan Silver Dollar.
Both are struck from 0.858 troy oz. of .999 fine silver to an uncirculated finish at the Denver and San Francisco Mints, respectively.
These silver dollars are part of six offered by the U.S. Mint to celebrate the 100th anniversary of the transition from Morgan dollars to Peace dollars. The coins were authorized by Public Law 116-286, the 1921 Silver Dollar Coin Anniversary Act.
In May, the Mint offered for pre-order the 2021 Morgan Silver Dollar with a CC (Carson City) Privy Mark and the 2021 Morgan Silver Dollar with an O (New Orleans) Privy Mark as the first two of the six associated dollars. Their launch, however, was riddled with issues as U.S. Mint customers experienced multiple website glitches when trying to place their pre-order. Acknowledging the problems, the Mint first postponed and then announced later pre-order dates for the four remaining dollars, with two for today and the last two in a week.
"During the initial pre-order window for the Morgan & Peace Dollars, the Mint experienced an extraordinarily high volume of BOT traffic. These BOTs were programmed to conduct technology-driven transactions which caused significant interference with many transactions by Mint customers," the U.S. Mint explained in part. "The Mint has now identified a solution that we expect will mitigate most of the issues caused by BOT traffic."
In addition, the Mint reduced household limits for each dollar to three from ten.
All of this leads us to today’s offering of the 2021-D and 2021-S Morgan Silver Dollars, two months and two days after originally scheduled. Assuming a relatively smooth debut, the Mint plans a final 2021 Morgan and a 2021 Peace dollar to follow on the 10th. Both will be produced in Philadelphia but will not carry a mintmark.
2021 Morgan Dollar Designs and Specifications
The authorizing law for these coins requires that they feature designs similar to those on the century-plus old Morgans. As such, the Mint scanned its historic assets using modern technology to recreate the designs for 2021. U.S. Mint Chief Engraver George T. Morgan created the original artwork which appeared on silver dollars from 1878 to 1904, and then again in 1921. It is for his work that these coins have taken their nickname.
On obverses (heads side) of each is Lady Liberty in profile. A cap, flora, and a crown incused with the word "LIBERTY" adorn her head, while 13 stars, "E PLURIBUS UNUM," and the date of issuance encircle her.
Reverses (tails side) depict a heraldic eagle with outstretched wings clasping arrows and an olive branch, accompanied by a wreath. Reverse inscriptions include "UNITED STATES OF AMERICA," "IN GOD WE TRUST" and "ONE DOLLAR."
2021 Morgan Silver Dollar Specifications
| Denomination: | $1 |
| Finish: | Uncirculated |
| Composition: | 99.9% Silver |
| Silver Weight: | 0.858 troy oz. |
| Diameter: | 1.500 inches (38.10 mm) |
| Edge: | Reeded |
| Mint and Mint Mark: | D for Denver S for San Francisco |
Pre-ordering and Shipping
Pre-order the coins directly from the U.S. Mint’s online store at 2021-D Morgan Silver Dollar and at 2021-S Morgan Silver Dollar.
Each coin is $85 with an initial household order limit of three.
Pre-sales of the dollars are expected to last just a short time despite the official U.S. Mint ordering window which extends to Aug. 17. Shipments will not begin until October, but credit card information will be verified by the U.S. Mint when pre-ordering. The actual charge for the coins will not occur until products ship. It is recommended to always keep current credit card information on account with the Mint to prevent order cancellations for later shipping products.
The silver dollars ship in a black box with an outer sleeve adorned with an image of the coin obverse and accompanied by a Certificate of Authenticity.
I have little faith in this process. I have 3 ASE v2 orders (not to the same household) which had orders placed, confirmed via email, preliminary charge to credit card … but not fulfilled, and no response from the mint.
The ability of the mint to just not fulfil a legitimate order, and have no accountability to their legal contract of sale is saddening.
So Kaiser, usually quiet today! Did you get the coins or not?
I was able to get both S & D coins after 17 minutes. The only error message I got was “Bad Gateway” four times.
NumisdudeTX
Hi Seth I managed to get 3 of each D and S and they already charged my card for both which I thought was unusual since they usually bill when they ship. I did separate orders for each mint mark since I get free shipping but I have only received the confirmation email for the D Mint mark. Only error I received was the bad gateway cloud fare San Jose California but I’m in northern New Mexico on the S Mint mark. It took me about 8 to 10 minutes to get the S Mint mark and maybe a few… Read more »
Yeah, I placed 3 orders and they charged my card for all 3.
I’ll bet they are ‘pending’ charges. I use AMEX and have 6 ‘pending’ charges! I kept on entering for the coins until I received an order receipt from the mint. I’m sure the mint will only process 2 orders, one for each version that I placed.
I only did it due to battling the website. I had 1ea of the SF & D in my cart and it would not finalize my order. Out of frustration I took one out and tried again … blah, blah, blah finally ending up with 3 orders submitted for 4 coins. Was not my plan, just worked out that way.
Speaking of Kaiser Wilhelm, I have an Imperial Luger pistol issued to the German army in 1913. … you made me think of it.
Interesting. I’m on the east coast and got the same error for my region which is the one in Newark. I don’t think the distance from where one is matters. It’s just where they spread out their gateway servers across the country. You competed with all those buyers in the Southwest and Southern Cal and I competed with NYC and who knows whatever metro areas on the east coast, at least from my understanding. Whatever the case is, they were once again not prepared for the traffic.
Adam L –
Glad to see we both got the coins we wanted. But, with some stressful minutes for sure!
“Keep on Truckin”, as the saying/song goes…
NumisdudeTX
I had the exact same experience but did receive a confirmation email
Kyle –
I got my confirmation email after midnight! Lol.
NumisdudeTX
I got the bad gateway message twice, but somehow the second time it went through. My anxiety for about 15 min after the noon releases is unbelievable, and it will happen again next Tuesday
Michael –
It will happen again I bet you…
NumisdudeTX
19 minutes for me. Can’t wait to hear the sold out time. I think I was among the last few to get through even though I started at 12 sharp. I got “Bad Gateway” about the same number of times as you but also encountered “Page Does not Exist” a few times. And they claim to have learned a lesson last spring and made updates? I don’t think so.
Kaiser –
Mazel Tov! And Amen…G-D must be helping out!
NumisdudeTX
Winner, winner, chicken dinner zu essen…lol.
NumisdudeTX
Yeah I got bad gateway also but then was okay, I got both version, I have order number but still see it is processing phase.. does anyone know if it is better to check out with one first and then go back in for other next time!!?? Or get the one in the cart go back and get the second in cart?? I am worried with the peace one that if I don’t process will it be gone?? Does it count on people cart of when the hit the final button deal?? getting 2 during the peace one could kill… Read more »
I ended up ordering 2ea of the SF & D in 3 orders. I had 2 in my cart and kept getting a bad gateway error. In desperation I took one out of my cart. I successfully placed the order. I then put 1 ea of SF & D in my cart and successfully placed order. Then I figured I might as well have 2 of each so I successfully placed one more order for a single coin. I doubt it matters how many you have in your cart, unless there is a cap of 3 per family programmed in.… Read more »
I’m trying to say if you get one in the cart and go in and process it first then it gives you a better chance to confirm it rather than going back and trying to get two different coins in the cart and wasting that time by that time they may have processed others and then the coin is not available even though it is in your cart do you get what I’m saying
So I went and checked and my order says processing does that mean I am screwed and it did not go through and they may not be able to fulfill it?
They say it may take up to 24 hours so I wouldn’t fret about it. If they don’t fill it there’s nothing you can do about it anyway. As far as ordering one at a time vs putting multiple in your cart I guess there’s risk either way. Just depends on what’s important to you. With this round today the coins were available for about 25 minutes. It takes maybe a minute to add another coin, so ….
And the next round you have the peace dollar and that’s only like 100,000 limited so I’m sure that bad boys going to go quick and then it’s a matter of getting that second one in the cart in time
On the positive side you’ll either have a silver dollar or $85.
Think that gateway timeout deal is just total traffic or what
I assume so. It would not be very cost effective at some point for a supplier of anything to build a system to handle extreme demand.
They probably also have some orders they cannot fill for whatever reason. They probably try to guestimate. Hopefully they don’t over sell too much to compensate. I placed 3 orders for 4 coins. One order is confirmed/backordered. The other 2 are still in processing.
What does it mean when you order is confirmed but is also says back ordered??
I think it means you got it. They’re confirming that your order is to be filled. The order changes from processing to back ordered and they send you a confirmation.
You can always soothe your wounds by putting the $85 toward and early Morgan.
Mike d
The Peace Dollar has a limit of 200,000 coins so it should be accessible unless there is more Peace Dollar collectors than Morgan collectors.
There are 5 X 175K Morgans to go for, but they have different mint marks. However, not sure how much that matters. Guess we’ll find out … RACE YA
Oh wow, that makes me feel so much better. 😉
Mark,
I’m also looking forward to the Peace dollar release. I think it will be as easily secured as any of the previous Morgans have been. Or, for the sake of brevity, it’s going to be a madhouse! We will find out once again who is lucky and who is not. I’ve already secured 3 out of the 4 Morgans, so I can’t complain, even if I get shut out for the next two. Hoping we ALL have a little luck sprinkled on us!
Larry,
I’ll try to get the Peace & Morgan on the 10th but going to just take it as it comes. Not the end of the world if it doesn’t work out.
I did get confirmations and backorders for the 2 SF & D’s I submitted yesterday so that’s all good.
I think the Peace Dollar is 200,000 mintage.
Me thinks “Backordered”
The intermediate message is backordered. Same as the privy marked Morgans I got in May.
No exaggeration, I probably resubmitted 10 times and logged out and back in 3 to 5 times in 25 minutes to place 3 orders for 4 coins. So far I have 1 confirmation out of the 3 submitted/processing. … just trying to get around the page errors. Only good things were that it never filtered me as a bot and I did finally get the orders submitted.
I can take it. I like quiet suffering.
Maybe there’s a new network for the mint in the “bipartisan infrastructure bill.”
I had 3 “processing” and one of those was changed to “Backordered” with Confirmation email sent. The other 2 are still “processing”
If the number of server crashes I encountered today was easy and fast, I can’t wait until next week!
Getting one of each into my cart was pretty quick, about 3 minutes. When I went to pay I had 3 bad gateway and 1 SSL error. Refreshed 4 times and finally got to add security code to the payment screen and got to the order processing message 3 times and got knocked out with page not found message. On the 4th payment attempt, success at 9:19 am (PT). Email from mint acknowledging order at 9:19. Email from mint confirming order at 3:38 pm (PT). Credit card won’t be charged until coins shipped in October.
Are you named after Peter & Gordon? Weird, the full charge shows on my Visa. Don’t know why the difference.
https://youtu.be/4J3eslNl_i0
Might trying to place multiple orders for others be the cause for the problem? Can MINT see what is going on? What does order IP look like on MINT’s side, coming from same address?
Had 5 different VPN’s 😉
My “cover all bases” approach is bested by the Mint’s “randomise outcomes” implementation
I had a hard time myself today, completely random crap happening to me… I think I said this a couple of times, “you have to be farking kidding me!”.
Unfortunately one of our members here with a micro penis left feedback on the video that he was “reporting it to the mint, and was working to get my order cancelled”.
Quality.
Didnt do anything outside the conditions of sale (unique households, unique accounts etc etc etc) … but anyway …. cancel culture is so hot right now.
The “CIRCUS” is back in town X2…So long U S MINT….!!!!!! Bye Bye !!!!! But wait are you “HUMAN” let us know by October !!!!!
“I am NOT an animal!” – John Merrick, “The Elephant Man” movie. “I am Human” – poem by Maya Angelou. FYI all coin blog readers: Everyone must send a copy of their official birth certificate to U.S. Mint Director David J. Ryder (he’s such an animal!…Lol). Donald J. Trump sued ultra-wealthy & highly popular political (mostly) comedian & long-time live HBO talk show host Bill Maher in 2013…Bill Maher offered $5 million of his own money to the charity of Trump’s choice if Trump could produce scientific proof that Trump was not the son of an orangutan! (True lawsuit). Trump… Read more »
Too funny, and I guess Obama wont be sending in his credentials to ride or die Ryder lol
I was just scrolling on FB and saw an ad from laorre selling PCGS MS70 2021 ‘CC’ Morgan Dollars for $19.99 each! You can buy as many as you want. All I can say is I feel sorry for all those folks that paid $85 for this from the mint.
Clearly this is fraudulent, but the coin looks legitimate. If people do buy these ‘thinking’ it is a real mint produced Morgan, it just verifies my belief that our population is getting dumber and dumber!
If you believe what you read on FB than perhaps you need to consider who here is “getting dumber and dumber”.
Agree. I would just add that our population is also being taught to be dumb.
That’s about $2 less than the market value for the silver in a dollar. Good deal!!
The ad is under Awosuy. Company:Beijing Jinanjia Technology Co, Ltd.
Address:205-17, 2nd floor,Building 18, Weigai Community,Qinghe Town,Haidian District, Beijing. Email:Service@awosuy.com. Isn’t it curious that China has no problem at all with these social platforms but if you dare question certain things, you are banned!
Larry T. – Under the long-time law in The People’s Republic of China (Communist China), it is not illegal to produce/manufacture/and sell counterfeit/replica coins of foreign countries. But, it is illegal for anyone or any company in the USA to purchase these counterfeit coins & import them into the USA & sell them in the USA. One more good reason not to buy the China panda coins struck & sold by the official Mints of China. Why support a Communist government with a horrible human rights violations record by purchasing their official silver, gold, platinum & palladium panda bullion legal… Read more »
Seth,
I try my best not to purchase anything from China. I know that’s not always possible, but for discretionary items, I look to see where it’s made! Concerning Chinese coinage, how would one know they aren’t counterfeit coins?
It is, however, illegal for anyone or any company within China to produce counterfeit current legal tender coins & banknotes of The People’s Republic of China (the Yuan/Renminbi).
NumisdudeTX
You need to get a caliper and a scale. Check the physical dimensions of the coin and check the weight in grams. If these do not meet with the specifications of the coin when it was minted it’s fake. You can also check with a magnet to make sure it’s not magnetic, however most people that counterfeit coins use alloys that will not be picked up by magnet. Also, you can take a known silver coin and tap the two together if you get a thud it’s fake if it pings it is probably real. Go on YouTube and check… Read more »
Why support china by purchasing ANYTHING made there?
China is not a friend of America. Period.
mammoth,
There are some products that you can’t purchase anywhere but from China, thanks to our business CEO’s and their quest to save every dollar they can. On the other hand, as an investor in several of these companies, I can’t complain too much!
That’s understandable. I would like to buy made in the US products but there are almost none of them.
While we are evaluating legalities of various coinage, let’s not forget that the Morgan dollar is also illegal – the words “E. Pluribus Unum” is supposed to be on the REVERSE of the coin, and the words “In God We Trust” is supposed to be on the OBVERSE of the coin…. but the politics of the day, perhaps not unlike today, warranted this rebel move by the the then US Mint director – scandalous!!!
President Theodore Roosevelt didn’t want the motto “In God We Trust” on any U.S. Mint coins (or paper money printed by the Treasury Dept. for that matter). That is why the $20 gold coins by Saint-Gaudens do not have that motto in 1907 & part of 1908.
NumisdudeTX
Let the games begin!!
Synagogue Squad – Start Your Engines….
Excuse me?
Triggered??
For what?
You’re excused
While I will not be participating in the Mint’s next online ordering fiasco, to those that will be – GOOD LUCK. I hope you all get at least one of each.
on your mark….
get set…..
No more “Bots Gone Wild” so good luck all!
Debating if I want these? Definitely going for the Peace Dollars though. Good luck for those entering the fray in a few moments.
Hoped on US Mint website at 12:08pmET to test things out and by 12:11pmET got me into Silver Coins and was able to put a SF Morgan into my cart. Removed it as didn’t want this coin or the Denver one. Hoped folks got what they wanted and condolences to any who didn’t get their Morgan SF / D coin(s).
Wait, what? You did that just to add traffic to the site without intending to buy the coins…?? Thanks brah – very helpful….
You’re welcome brah – anytime.
Doubt one more added any pressure on US Mint system. Checking to see how well for 10AUG race where I will purchase brah.
Stay well and hope you got your product(s).
Chris I’m not sure what you were testing. I think anyone could easily put a coin in their cart. I did it at least twenty times. Getting the confirmation after clicking the ‘place order’ button, now that is where one has to jump thru many, many hoops!
Yep, agree. But still, logging in, getting to page and placing in cart in such short time surprised me. Sure if I did take the dive to purchase (and yes, I was debating as stated in my first post to this article) would of encountered some antics. All I can state is this process much better from what we saw with the CC & O Morgan’s as well as some other Mint products last year (mainly the WWII commemoratives). Got out in 2 – 3 minutes with purchase of the 2021 W Type 2s so I can say there is… Read more »
In and out in less than a minute.
Good for you. I am glad that you got in and out so quickly. I only ordered 1 each of the coins. It took me 13 minutes and multiple attempts to get the order through. That beats the 19 minutes it took last time. Still, it was not any better. It thought that I was a robot and asked me to disable my ad blocker, and then press & hold a button to show I was a human being. Even then it took 5 more times before it took my order, and did not give me a “Bad Gateway” error.… Read more »
Kicked me out 5 times, but went through for 2 each.
I just got confirmation that my order for 1 2021 D and 1 2021 S Morgan Dollar was confirmed (at 9:08 am PT). It took me 8 minutes to complete. First got kicked out by a SSL bad address issue, that 4 bad gateways, then 3 times where I was at my “order being processed, do not refresh,” and got a message that the page was not available. On the 4th time processing my payment I had success. I smell a Mezack.
Not the smoothest experience. Kicked out twice and had issues where I had to reenter CC info. Regardless, 2 each about 4 minutes later with email and charge to CC.
Same here, and I have my CC saved. Not smooth at all, but an eventual success, if you can call it that.
Missed the 1st 2, got these, 2 more to go, so who knows??
Got all 6. little lag but it eventually processed my order. I am super excited!
I have mixed feelings about this. I tend to collect Proofs (Eagles mostly) and not Uncs. I missed the CCs and Os last time around … I clicked for 2 Os and it registered 4; and the order button for the CCs did NOTHING, so I bailed (and failed). This time I “ordered” 2 of each D & S. It glitched big time and had to go back to my cart 3 times and restart. But it looks like I got these 4 (total). Order was acknowledged at least. … Still, w/o the Os and CCs, and who knows *IF*… Read more »
You could always trade some of your extra Morgans for ones that you couldn’t get.
Yeah, maybe if I got 3 of each, but to me, 2 is not really “extra”.
You will be able to trade the original 1921 D and S UNC Morgans for the 2021 Morgans – trades are already proposed on coincollector and other sites.
I have a few of very choice originals in Mint folders, they can have the 2021 Morgans !!!! not interested at all !!!
Over 3 hrs after order .. CONFIRMED.
Whoo … pee????
Yup – I paid about “70” price for a 69 (That I had to send in for grading myself). Its an availability thing – they had it, and I wanted it to (almost) fill out my ASE proof collection. So I took the bath, as a collector. At the end of the day, it’ll be passed on to the next gen. (On the plus side, as money-hungry as they are as a dealer, they do ship VERY quickly. They earned a level of trust from me. I back-filled a few examples I somehow missed in the past years.) With these… Read more »
Both the D and S Morgan Dollars are still available for pre order on the Mint website as of 9:20 am (PT).
??? Interesting.
Because the limit was changed to 3 per household. They will not last long.
Tells me the large flippers/speculators were primarily responsible for the CC and O fiasco and artificial shortage (impact of new HH limit). Expect to see lots of those on the secondary market, but not so many S and D now that the actual collectors got a fair chance to purchase
I was shocked to see on ebay yesterday that certain people had several hundred if not several thousand type 2 gold eagles for sale. The problem is not the advance orders (although that is a contributing factor) but rather, the flippers and coin dealers who use family, friends, and incentives, to get more than their share of collectible coins.
I reckon they are selling the bullion version of the v2 Gold Eagle, in a mint presentation box … they are just wording their ad in a legal way, which makes you think you are buying the proof version, but you are not.
taking a nice $900 uplift on the spot price, by advertising this right at peak interest time.
they probably don’t even have the coins in hand, but are going to buy through channels and drop ship to your address when you order.
Peter,
Are they the Type 2 bullion coins or the Type 2 Proof (gold) Eagles? I’m assuming they are the former.
Not any more.
Lasted longer than I expected.
I was also surprised they stayed available for that long.
… for another 3 minutes…
Both gone as of 12:26 pm EST
Right. it did show that, but you would have been unable to complete the transaction. The ordering page for pre-order soon updated to reflect they were unavailable.
I was able to order the S without issue. I then ordered the D and had many issues; finally got it to go 19 minutes after. I am surprised they still had any left.
Had no problem adding both coins to my cart. I had a lot of trouble checking out. Too many restarts to count, finally the order went through at 12:18p. So, that’s about 16 to 17 minutes in checkout. Seems the US Mint still has a lot of problems with its web page. Received an email almost immediately the order had been placed. So their email response is working, it’s just they still can’t handle a lot of orders all at once.
Same here 18 to 19 min in for the 6 coins. Had to switch browsers as it kept saying I was not human. Then switched to phone, and had to order twice, after initial pings from CC company about charge and no email, then order again with issues, pings from CC company then email with successful order. For FARKS SAKE USMINT. YOU DID NOT FIX ANYTHING !!!
There is really nothing more they can do to fix it. The bottom line is the demand is higher than the supply – so there is no way to take 500K plus orders at once time without some issues. The “new and improved” BOT blocker is probably the hardest part though – for the W ASE I could not get around it and finally sold out while trying to prove I am human so it may even be worse than before…
Looks like stock exhausted by 12:28 – now showing the “remind me” screen instead of allowing orders.
I was on at noon, got my six in the cart, but it took about 4 or 5 attempts to check out before my order was processed. Each time it would let me go all the way to the final order step and then give a ‘page not found’ error instead of processing the order.
Same here, many, many times.
The D and S Morgan Dollars went unavailable by 9:30 am (PT).
Everybody Dance Yo! Piece of Cake…
The S mint Morgan Silver Dollar went unavailable (sold out) around 12:23pm ET and the D mint Morgan went unavailable around 12:29pm ET, about 6 minutes later.
Sold out in less than half an hour. The S sold out before the D. Got my confirmation. So relieved. It’s like Christmas shopping, hectic. I had to use two sites just to get one order in for each coin.
I was able to order three of each. I got my ORDER ACKNOWLEDGMENT and hopefully will get the confirmation tomorrow.
It was a big hassle getting past the “I am human” BOT detector, but somehow it finally worked and I was able to score the coins…. I missed the W ASE over this same issue so I was getting very annoyed but perseverance wins the day!
Good luck my numismatic brethren…
I had that problem with the last two coins. When you buy something on their site you now have to turn off all ad blockers and VPN if you have that, when all the blocking type stuff is off you won’t get the human bot nonsense.
Ok so I need to turn OFF the ad blockers? What about Java script – why does it mention that? And regarding the VPN, yes or no? Mine was off and I got the blocker. It gives you a chance to hold the button to prove you are human (BOTs can only click, cannot hold down) but the problem is that it never worked!! Just started over like 10 times and finally it went to the confirmation page. So the blocker is not the issue, it is the fact it won’t accept your input!!
Big T,
I got the Are You Human button several time during my journey through the maze that is the Mints website, but I held it for a few seconds and apparently I turned into a human. I was clicking away for 25 minutes before I was able to get both versions. I am grateful, but damn, do they have to make it this nerve racking!
Still have the S ASE on the 12th. I wonder how that proof will sell. I believe the Type 2 aren’t selling as quickly as the Type 1 did.
it will sell out in ~ 30 min or less
Wasn’t as bad as last time, had a few screw ups with the pages but finally got my order in for one of each.
Last time I only got one, the CC, wasn’t able to get the O coin.
I logged on before noon, and went to the Morgan page right at noon. I got 1 of each into my cart fairly quickly, but then took forever to get the order accepted. It kept telling me the page had moved or been deleted after I hit the final place order button. I couldnt reverse from those pages, I had to actually click my internet bookmark page to get back to the mint. When I did, I was still signed in and the items were still in my cart. I tried checking out again (and again). After at least 6… Read more »
That’s exactly what I did and had the same problem, I did get the two coins tho.
No it will tell you that it is no longer available. It sounds to me like you got them! Congrats
Same for me. I kept trying though, using two browsers, and was ready to give up after more than twenty minutes. I figured, what the heck, I’ll keep doing this back and forth until my Bag is 0. Finally received a confirmation and receipt. Acknowledgement email with the notice I’d receive a confirmation in 24 hours arrived about that time. So far I’ve only missed the Type 1 W ASE. It’s not easy but with a mintage of only 175,000, what did I expect? A few minutes later the S wasn’t available and a few minutes afterward, the D. Hoping… Read more »
FYI–I just received the confirmation email for my order today (august 4th) at 1208pm eastern, and the status shows in my order history as backordered. I was starting to get a bit concerned that I hadnt gotten the email yet when I checked this morning. It arrived only a few minutes shy of 24 hours after my order was accepted. Now I believe I got them.
I entered the site at Noon ET, added the “S” & “D” Morgan Dollars to my cart (2 of each), tried to process my order and kept getting a “Screen not found error”. Retried multiple times to no avail, even though my cart still showed 4 coins. Finally I emptied my cart and started over, only to find that the “S” dollars were no longer available, only the “D”. I’m betting this is why my initial attempts failed… the “S” dollars became unavailable while I was trying to process my initial order. Then, after my order for two “D” dollars… Read more »
Never empty your cart unless it says they are unavailable. You just have to keep trying and do the same process over and over and over again – it does suck but it is a consequence of such high demand. The coin market is VERY hot right now.
I was unable to get the W ASE last week but did somehow manage these two today after many, many repeated attempts.
Totally agree. Don’t empty the cart. It wastes a step in the laggy process. Once in the cart, keep banging chkout, imo
That agrees with my experience also. Just keep banging away until it either submits or become unavailable.
I tried logging out and back in. I did finally get my orders rammed through but I really don’t know if logging back in helped or not. (It did not empty my cart, however)
Much to my surprise I was able to get one each of the D and S. If I’m able to get one each of the next two I’ll be lucky. I had no interest in the ’CC’ and’O’.
Has anyone else cone across this problem? I used to order coins from the Mint w/o any incident. Now for some reason it lets me get to the very end where I click one last time to pay and it kicks me out. It comes back with some lame reason and I have to redo it all. By that time if I’m trying to purchase a hot item it is usually unavailable.
Yeah, 4 times today but I did get the 2 coins finally.
“Has anyone else come across this problem?”, that’s a joke, right?
The Mint site is still so screwed up. I was able to order both … I think. Maybe even more than once. But I had to do the 2 mint marks separately and God knows what I got. I may have gotten multiples, I entered my credit card info so many times. Tried to look at order history at the Mint and it was unavailable. Note to Kaiser. I had to do that “press if you are a human thing” again … 3 or 4 times. And on the last press I think I graduated from being a slime to… Read more »
Tried first for the S crashed immediately then switched to the D and got one! Went back to the S and got as far as the press for Human but failed. Still got a D with email confirmation!
I’ve been collecting coins & buying from mint since 1995 ( collection for 2 children ). This is second time I had all information and timing couldn’t be any finer. But error of “ bad gateway” I have extremely fast high speed internet 800 MPs the highest a single family could have. I deleted my credit cards and will no longer collect or buy coins from mint. I feel that Hugh wholesale buyers are buying in bulks and knocking out the little guy investor that buys 2 coins. I feel your online ordering is allowing wholesale buyers to buy more,… Read more »
Vincent,
Did this happen to you multiple times while trying to order your coins or just once. I received multiple messages as to why my orders failed but I kept repeating the process until either it said ‘No Longer Available’ or I got an order accepted. Fortunately for me I was able to get the orders accepted, after 25 minutes of frantic clicking!
Vincent this happened to all of us… you can be sour grapes if you want but at least realize this is not about screwing the little guy this is simply the fact that demand is super high for these coins… ever buy concert tickets?? This happens. You can take your toys and go home or learn from others how to keep trying past the multiple ‘bad gateways’ we all experienced today to get our coins… just sayin
Fortunate to get a couple S’s today! 🙂
Don’t you just love dealing with the Mint’s website when about 1,000,000 people are vying for a coin. I was on at 12 o’clock and by 12:20 PM I must have been booted from the ‘place order’ page at least 30 times! I had to verify that I’m human (some already know I’m an a**hole…lol) at least 6 times, input my street address, state, and mailing address about the same number of times and for what. Well fellow coin collectors, I was finally able to secure 3 Morgan S dollars and 2 Morgan D Dollars! Whew, I don’t know whether… Read more »
To quote a former President, “I feel your pain.” One more Morgan offering to go. I’m aiming for the Peace Dollar first and hope I get early enough to add the P Morgan with it. Then the fun begins again. Two days later, the proof S ASE. Oh the joy! ; )
That’s what I did. Had an early splash of bourbon. Wasn’t sure if I was celebrating or calming my nerves, lol.
Hedging my bets and expecting Mint website problems and a quick sellout, I ordered 3 of the (S) Morgans while a family member in another state ordered the (D). After my (S) order went through with barely a hiccup, I ordered 3 of the (D) Morgans using my phone, but ran into the ‘Verify You are a Human’ issue. After pressing & holding the button multiple times, surprisingly the order went through. Then for kicks and giggles I filled a cart with 3 of each and kept refreshing just to see what time these Morgans would sell out. 12:25 PST.… Read more »
Kaiser – Things come to those who wait…but only things left behind for those who hustle. My goal is to wind up with three complete sets of the six 2021 Silver Dollars: one to keep, and two to sell in order to recoup the $$$ I’ve laid out. It’s kinda risky, like that algebra problem where you are on a railroad bridge, the train is coming and you have to decide whether to run towards the train, or away from it. Given the track record of many commenters here, there’s no guarantee of success with next Tuesday’s release of the… Read more »
The mint could reduce the limit to 1 and still sell out. That would allow more people to get them. Quit letting certain companies preorder and make them buy from open market like everyone else. The more people that can order, the better it would be for the hobby. These companies don’t serve collectors. They serve themselves and true collectors end up overpaying for stuff they never get their money back out of. This idea that collectors are served last needs to change.
Got 3 of each, in and out is a couple minutes. Very easy. The mint seems to be addressing some of their problems.
It is the same old song with the US mint. I had both coins in my bag and went to check out said my order was being processed then the web page said no connection. Went back again asked if I was human and last time I checked I am human. So all of a sudden after spending thousands and thousands of dollars with the US mint I must not be human.I guess I need to call my doctor and get it in writing that I am human and have my doctor fax the US mint a copy of it… Read more »
Ah, that reminds me, US ARMY means Uncle Sam Ain’t Released Me Yet. Ha!
Been reading all of the drama…Yes China will replicate these, that’s why it is important to only get NGC or PCGS/direct from the mint. I was able to check out at 22 and 24 after noon – same experience as the first go round. PFS buyers club was offering $145 per order to send it to them – SO not only were we trying to get a coin but many others trying to just profit – which is okay, but makes things more challenging. EMAIL FROM PFS – Today, at 12:00PM ET the US Mint will be releasing two limited… Read more »
LOL that’s a screw job. Less than $25 premium per coin? GMAFB, I can sell one on ebay and more or less get what you’re offering for six of them. PFS = Pretty f***** stupid.
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we’ll see if these actually get delivered
Daniel,
Quite the impressive control room you have set up! Obviously you had a much easier, and faster, experience getting to the acceptance page than I did. I’m glad you were successful in your endeavor, especially since you had to get up at 2:30AM, and hope all of your orders are sent ‘down under’.
It appears that I was successful in ordering 2 Ds and 1 S. Somewhat of a circus, however. Ordered 1 D from the page that popped-up and then proceeded to back out and order the S. Found myself on a different page format and mistakenly ordered another D. Was able to return to same page and ordered the S. The pages displayed the coins in different positions. Checking out was also a challenge. The site would not allow me to prove that I was human. Also was kicked out twice. Decided to start over from scratch and behold, my bag… Read more »
Even though I didn’t play in this round, I was curious to see what everybody’s experience was trying to order them. From reading the comments posted thus far, it looks like the process was somewhat smoother, comparatively speaking, than the 1st round of morgan’s and the W-mint ASE’s.
So now I’ve moved from pessimistic to slightly optimistic about obtaining the Peace dollar next week.
Way better than the 1st round of Morgans. I still think the Peace are going to be the key and hardest to get because there’s just the one 2021 Peace vs. the five Morgans.
Most of the comments here indicate success in ordering – right? if so, Kudos to the Mint – it seems that they are proactively working on the ordering issues. I had minimal problems ordering these, the first Morgans, and the Last W proof silver eagle. Maybe the bots have met their match? We will see next week with the Peace $ release. I don’ t even want to talk about the 30k Enhanced Uncirculated S eagle a few years back – somebody made buckets of money on those – Mint employees?????
Don’t be so naive Herr Kaiser – I worked for the US government for 35 years. You do seem to have a lot of time on your hands like most government workers.
Finally got my order through for one each Morgan D and S. Started at noon on the dot and it took 20 minutes of failed attempts because of Mint server issues. As I’ve come to find, PayPal was disabled and I also could not check that my order was truly accepted because neither was the Order History info. Got an email confirmation for the order and from the credit card though and the order status was available later on the Mint site.
Same here – whats with the Paypal disable?? Discover is giving 5% back on Paypal.
Does it mean anything that I didnt get a received or confirmation email although I do see the order in my order history with a USM number
No, I placed 3 orders and got 2 receipt confirmations. I just received Confirmation for 1 out of the 3 orders at 2.5 hours post sale opening.
PS, the one I have confirmation for was the one for which I did not receive an order receipt.
Howard,
Sometimes it takes awhile before you receive a confirmation email from the Mint. I’ve noticed after a high demand issue like these coins, it can take the Mint many hours to sort things out. Currently I have my Received Order emails and still waiting on the Confirmation emails.
If the order is found in your order history, it’s good. Their email server probably choked under the load.
I have some Morgan Silver Dollars
1921, 1922 and 1923
Need appraisal
I’ll appraise the 1922 and 1923 Morgans for you free of charge
LOL – me too!
Mr. Juanita, there were no Morgan’s minted in 1922 or 1923. You must mean Peace dollars. In that case, your 21 is worth quite a bit, and your 22 and 23 – unless in mint state condition and are some kind of VAM, are worth basically 0.77 oz of silver spot.
Final checkout was a problem and took multiple attempts. It took me about 25 minutes even with all my info registered. Due to the confusion I placed 3 orders for 2 each of the S & D Morgans. I’ve received confirmation for the first order at about 2.5 hours after opening for sale. I got at least one S. The previous sale/order attempt was a total bust in less than 30 seconds.
Was lucky got both in 4 minutes and the CC and O took abit longer but now have all four.
I’m curious about “took abit longer.” I tried to order the CC and O and 20 seconds after they became available they were gone before I could check out.
About 6 minutes got kicked out once waited for awhile for confirmation but it did go through card was charged got the email next day.
CC and O were purchased last offering. Ordered at the same cart also.
Good for you. Like I said, I had less than a 20 second window on the first offering. I did not have internet access to try again for the second CC / O offering … vacationing at Glacier National Park. Limiting to 3 per “family” probably helped distribution.
Too hard to order by older Americans. This is like a video game. All I wanted was one each.
The Mint webpage should say “Pre-order: August 3 (for 1,800 seconds only)” and “This product is sold out and will never be available again.”
Sorry for venting. Please stay safe.
Marge if you want one I can help you – let me know.
I had two web browser windows opened, one to each of the coins. At precisely 9 am, I refreshed the pages, set the number of coins to 2 each, and clicked buy. I opened my cart in each page but was surprised to see both coins show up in both so I entered my info in just one, clicked finalize, and, after a short delay, I was told I was successful. The whole thing couldn’t have taken more than 3 minutes. Shortly thereafter, I received a notification from my bank that my card had been charged and then a bit… Read more »
I was able to get one of each, which is what I wanted. I logged in about 11:45 and opened each coin’s ordering page in separate tabs. At noon I kept hitting refresh until the human check came up. I identified all of the airplanes (twice) and then the order page for the ‘S’ came up. I hit the preorder button to add to cart, switched to other tab, refreshed, added the ‘D’ to cart. Now, checking out I keyed the card info in because I heard that worked better. But, I kept getting Page Not Found on final checkout.… Read more »
I think it will be reverse proof of type I and type II.
I began immediately at Noon. I had numerous, repeated errors when attempting to order on my smartphone: I would confirm my order only to be kicked back to the payment page, bad gateway, the page you are looking for cannot be found. After 15 minutes of this, I switched to a desktop and received multiple times the same cannot be found message. Relaunched the webpage and I was presented with a screen to prove I was a human. I had to click and hold the cursor on a specific spot, using the mouse, until a progression bar had filled, then… Read more »
Great upgrades they made there! Must have used the same firm as the one that did the Obamacare website. Remember that launch fiasco? I hope the DoD has better working systems than either of those two departments.