The newest release from the United States Mint, containing seven coins struck from 99% fine silver, the 2024 Silver Proof Set, will appeal to both coin collectors and precious metal enthusiasts.
The price of the set, however, remains high at $130. Last year’s silver proof set also launched at the same price point, which was a significant increase over the 2022 and 2021 sets, initially priced at $105.
Tracking back even further, the 2020 Silver Proof Set was initially offered for just $63.25 and also included a bonus 2020-W reverse proof nickel. The 2019 set, the first to include .999 fine silver coins, sold for $54.95 at its debut. The 2018 Silver Proof Set, which contained seven 90% silver coins, was offered at $49.95.
Sales remain strong for the sets, although the higher price points have led collectors to show more restraint, as illustrated below:
- 2018 Silver Proof Set – 332,273
- 2019 Silver Proof Set – 413,890
- 2020 Silver Proof Set – 313,183
- 2021 Silver Proof Set – 303,786
- 2022 Silver Proof Set – 249,338
- 2023 Silver Proof Set (still available) – 193,014
Like previous years’ sets, the 2024 Silver Proof Set contains coins all produced at the U.S. Mint’s facility in San Francisco, featuring a proof quality finish noted for its frosted foregrounds and mirror-like backgrounds. These coins are struck multiple times to ensure a higher level of detail than their circulating counterparts.
2024 Silver Proof Set Contents
This year’s set includes the following coins:
- 2024-S Native American $1 Coin
- 2024-S Silver Kennedy Half Dollar
- 2024-S Silver Reverend Dr. Pauli Murray Quarter
- 2024-S Silver Honorable Patsy Takemoto Mink Quarter
- 2024-S Silver Dr. Mary Edwards Walker Quarter
- 2024-S Silver Celia Cruz Quarter
- 2024-S Silver Zitkala-Ša Quarter
- 2024-S Silver Roosevelt Dime
- 2024-S Jefferson Nickel
- 2024-S Lincoln Cent
Of these coins, six feature designs unique to the year, including the dollar and the quarters.
Regarding the seven .999 fine silver coins, they include the quarters, the Kennedy half-dollar, and the Roosevelt dime, with a total silver weight of 1.473 troy ounces. The remaining three coins retain their standard base metal compositions.
Ordering
The 2024 Silver Proof Set is available directly from the U.S. Mint through its online page dedicated to proof sets, which can be found here.
All five quarters are housed together in one protective lens, while the remaining five coins are in a separate protective lens. Both lenses are shipped inside a decorated cardboard sleeve, accompanied by the U.S. Mint’s certificate of authenticity.
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All I want is my presale 2024-S Proof Silver Kennedy Half Dollar in PR70 FDI. The rest of the set is just…………………
E 1,
Considering that the only way they can sell you the slabbed 2024-S Proof Silver Kennedy Half Dollar in PR70 FDI is by cracking a Silver Proof Set what do they do with the rest of the coins in that set?
Kaiser,
Not my problem. All I want is the half. If they want to get difficult, so can I. Once I have the 2025 Silver half for next year, then the Kennedy party is over for me. In 2026 we get the circus Kennedys – count me out and done at that point.
E 1,
Roger on the rest of that, but pray tell what is a “circus Kennedy”?
Kaiser,
Rotating reverses.
E 1,
Thanks. I may not be up on all the lingo but thankfully I’m not all that shy about asking the kind of questions that will get me there.
E 1,
Aren’t they proposing using paraplegic athletes and such on the rotating reverses. It makes no sense to me, but little does these days. I’m not a fan of ‘portrait’ coins, but if they have to be there I’d like to go back to the Franklin portrait on the half (just my opinion). I’ve always been fond of the classics!
Craig,
Yes, I am a fan of the Franklin half dollar design as well. I think having Niel Armstrong, Allen Shepard, or John Glenn on the Half would be appropriate as well. Instead of retiring the Kennedy half dollar with dignity and respect at the 60-year mark, it looks like they are going to turn it into another rotating reverse circus. Nothing classic about that.
E 1,
I would suggest the addition of Gus Grissom to that honor roll.
Craig,
However much it may mean, you’ve got my ditto on that idea. As far as the apparent dislocation from a seemingly more coherent world we are currently experiencing, I have long subscribed to the belief that not everything has a solution. There may however be a sort of an answer we can borrow from the Postal Service: Collect coins early and often.
Apollo 1 crew….
John Q. Coinage,
From the inflammable oxygen atmosphere of the Apollo 1 capsule to the failed “O” rings of the Challenger and the missing tiles of the Columbia shuttle the space program has certainly seen its share of tragedies. May they all rest in peace.
Kaiser,
They are sold separately whether in raw, or graded form.
Mint set break-ups are a big, big business.
Specific coins, by themselves are just as popular as the sets, maybe more popular to some folks?.
For example E1 for his Kennedy, or Joe Schmo for his Roosevelt dime. All coins in the end, end up in the right hands…
https://www.ebay.com/itm/226103967028
A shout out to my preorder Kennedy guy in Florida….
https://www.ebay.com/itm/326096375497
Cheers
I’ve seen those guys around for a long time it seems, one of the good guys I’m sure. You are going to love that coin. I do, but from afar. Maybe not for long though? After all they’re on the list of what I’ve nicknamed “The E1 Top 25 Kennedy Money Coins”.. The ’24 Silver Proof is in the category on your list as; “2019-2024 S Proof 99% Silver. Mintages are much lower on these when compared to the previous 90% silver proofs. Again, you only want to own these in PR70DCAM.” So there you go. Your list has the… Read more »
Rick,
Add a little bow-tie pasta to those baked beans and you will feel like you’re dining at the Ritz.
Cheers
It’s a fun hobby/vocation as nothing goes to waste. Even the lenses, boxes and COA’s are worth something to somebody.
It’s the number one hobby in my book for sure, Major D, so anything that can be done to put those ancillary parts to good use also is but the extra frosting on an already fabulous cake.
Rick,
This is precisely where there is still a huge part missing in my knowledge of the ins and outs of the coin buying business. Except for American Silver Eagles and the occasional Commemorative Coins I’ve exclusively purchased intact Sets from the Mint. My familiarity with buying from any other source or in any other format is effectively non-existent. That’s one of the main reasons I like hanging around you guys, so I can fill in some of those awareness gaps.
“All coins in the end, end up in the right hands…” (courtesy of Rick)
Looks like we have ourselves yet another sure winner in the “I’m definitely holding on to that quote for future use department.”
Many thanks for another great one, Rick!
Kaiser, haven’t you been listening to Magic Mike all these years? They (Littleton Coins for example) sell all the coins in the sets either individually or in sets, for big money.
Yes, and the amazing thing is that the sum total value of the individual coins is always greater than the value of the set as a whole. It’s the same principle as the cost of a car vs. the cost of all the individual parts. But for a car, good luck trying to sell all of the individual parts– though junk yards can make good money in due time there is always something left over.
Major D,
I understand how the individually graded coins from a Set can be worth more than the original price of the Set, but are there such things as entire graded Sets? Inquiring minds want to know.
Yep! I have one – HUGE holder!!
DAVESWFL,
I can only imagine! I must say it does sound like a great solution.
Craig,
Magic “I say everything twice – I say everything twice” Mike Mezack is the unchallenged master of coin pushing fast talk, and I believe those might just be Littleton Coin prices he’s always throwing around.
Kaiser,
I think Magic Mike calls the Littleton catalog his ‘bible’..Lol.
Craig,
Makes sense to me considering the Littleton catolog likely has the highest coin prices anywhere which makes that handy reference the ideal foil for Saint Mike to make favorable comparisons with regarding his own version of highway robbery.
Zero interest in this year’s set. At 3X melt, it’ll be several years before you can recoup your expenditure. 70s are almost a guaranteed nowadays.
Unless, of course, you can snag the latest V gimmick. But I’m sure someone in upstate New York or rural Nebraska will have lots of them.
I’d love for 60 minutes to do an exposé on mint swindles.
Man, am I getting jaded…..
DAVESWFL, I’m with you 100% on any investigative reporting on the Mint’s practices. But what is really needed IMO is some real substantive congressional oversight and independent watchdogs that do their job.
Careful, Major D, with the tricky linguistics involved here. Putting “congressional” and “independent” in the same sentence might just be an oxymoron.
Yes, so is congressional oversight.
Yessir, Major D, certainly can’t and won’t take issue with that. Even “independent watchdogs” might be a stretch when it comes to the Mint.
Well, some of their most substantive & important work recently, key work for the betterment and unity for the country, is almost a realty!
So let’s give credit where credit is due. With an extra shoutout to the watchdogs involved. And without further ado…
The Doggy Coin!
unless there’s a rare 3-legged one that mysteriously ends up slabbed before the release date.
Wait a second, Major D…the dog or the coin?
Premature encapsulation!
It’s always all about the dogs, Rick. Why can’t the Kraken get any respect?
DAVESWFL,
In years gone by the annual Silver Proof Set was an automatic for me. Thanks to the exorbitant price of same now, those days are over.
Ditto that, Kaiser!
Craig,
“How I learned to stop worrying and love clad coins” with sincere apologies and gratitude to Dr. Strangelove.
Kaiser,
I may have to rethink the purchase of the Silver Proof Set. I didn’t realise that you get that really flashy-looking silver foil display on the box (if you can call it that). I’m thinking it must surely add $30-$40 of added value (I got that line from MM) to the set. I am looking forward to July as I’ll be receiving the M/P dollars, my first purchase from the mint this year. I’m not really excited about them, but want them to keep the collection up-to-date.
Craig,
What’s this you say? Why on earth wasn’t I made aware of this any sooner? You mean I went to all the expense and trouble of planting a mole amidst the Mint’s cadre of otherwise loyal coinmakers and yet I was somehow still kept entirely ignorant of such a spectacularly momentous development? For shame! Is there no honor in honest skullduggery anymore? Sheesh, apparently you can no longer count on anyone to be trustfully crooked!
I believe, when the Fed cuts interest rates, metals and stocks will move higher. Are there other opinions out there on this subject? Please share.
I don’t know much about it other than they keep putting it off. Perhaps for good reason?
The Fed to me is the equivalent of Mr Ponzi, and Mr Madoff.
Three peas in a pod.
Metals & Markets up? Sure, the big ‘I’ word will aid in that, but for how long?
Where’s cagcrisp?
The mistake was made in naming it the FED (Or Federal Reserve)
The title leads the public to believe it is a U.S. Governmental agency. It is NOT!!! Other than naming individuals to the Fed Board, there is practically NO OVERSIGHT by Congress. They are a private banking operation with crazy privileges! They have not been audited (Ft Knox) in at least half a century. Few people understand how they operate except for setting interest rates.
Ya think SOMEONE might be getting rich here (at our expense)?
For a private banking operation the “Federal Reserve” appears to have complete control of how many coins are minted and where the circulating coinage ends up. This looks like a case of managing to have it both ways.
Just out of curiosity, Rick, exactly who or what is (a) cagcrisp? Thanks.
Kaiser, cagcrisp was a regular commenter over at Mint News Blog for many years, if not the entire time(15 yrs ish). Cag is well known for the ins & outs of the Indices, IRA’s, & the PM markets, among other forte’s. He has clients in one or more of those fields. If the markets & GLD are up to all time highs–you’ll hear a resounding BAM! from Cag. Sometimes boastful and irritating to some, but a solid, knowledgeable, and funny guy too. If you needed some market advice or opinions, he would have it. But more often than not, offer… Read more »
Rick, You answered a question I hadn’t yet asked before you even got to revealing the identity of cagcrisp, which means that I now know what the previously mysterious (to me) “MNB” is/was, to wit the one and only Mint News Blog. Thanks for that little tidbit right off the bat! As for learning about cagcrisp himself – and I believe I can trust that he does not in fact go by a faux-modern-era “theirself” or some such other linguistically frivolous (and as far as I am concerned completely claptrap) invention – upon reading your comprehensive description of his persona… Read more »
My observation is just a speculative opinion. He added to the blog overall and it was great and entertaining. One of the aspects of cagcrisp regarding his username linguistically speaking would be that the first part (CAG) is in fact the abbreviated version of the NYSE-Conagra Brands,Inc./ConAgra.
I think(?) much of his earlier career revolved around ConAgra(CAG) or it’s previous name(Nebraska Consolidated Mills)… As far as crisp goes, I do not recall…
One of his quotes was: “You don’t want to know how sausage is made, etc., etc”(I don’t remember the rest)….
Cag?
Ah well, Rick, isn’t it quite possible though that when all is said and done – and that moment seems to have a rather serious aura of inevitability surrounding it – all we are left with anyway is our very own opinions, speculative or otherwise. Besides, how much can one really expect to know about someone whom one is acquainted with solely through indirect communication via a coin website, and especially with said individual having the added mystery of likely being a long-term Conagra employee at that? The mind boggles. Lastly, perhaps I don’t even want anyone to know whether… Read more »
‘Food’ for thought indeed.
How about some ‘crispy’ sausage mm-hmm.
Or better yet, how about some fresh & tasty….
‘Soylent Green’, double mm-hmm!
Ah yes, People Food! And I wondered why my dogs wouldn’t eat The Farmer’s Dog.
lol !✓
Major D and Rick, Food terminology can certainly constitute a confusing world all by itself. For example, why is it called a hamburger if it has no ham or pork whatsoever in it, just beef. Further, A hot dog contains no canine, whether hot or cold, and is made of beef and/or pork. A chili dog isn’t cold but hot, entirely puppy free, and also consists of beef and or pork. A bratwurst isn’t especially known for misbehaving nor does a knackwurst appear to have any special skills. A wienerwurst happens to be a frankfurter claimed by Vienna and naturally… Read more »
Nice CagCrisp analysis Rick…….
FYI, I Googled cagcrisp and coinnews.net and found postings here on coinnews.net from at least 2014 to early 2021. He seemed quite active 2020.
Wow, huh, things had been slowing down then(2020), maybe some extra ‘work from home time’ and coin blogs filled the gaps. They sure do fill gaps for me anymore lol.
thanks
Aha, VinnieC, the seeds of yet another conspiracy theory, Next assignment is to determine what the link is between cagcrisp’s top appearances on coinnews.net and the Covid-19 outbreak. 😉
Just reporting what I observe Kaiser W. There was plenty of activity in 2019 and 2018 too. Maybe 2020 shows up closer to the top of the search.
BTW best wishes concerning you liver exam.
there’s no guarantee the fed will need to cut at all – they only need to lower the rate if economic conditions deteriorate and/or inflation picks back up. so as long as jobs are still being added each month, unemployment remains relatively low (below 5-6%) and inflation (PCE, this morning at 2.6% annual rate) keeps heading towards 2% target, the fed isn’t going to rock the boat by cutting rates. and if inflation were to head back up, that would definitely spoil the fed rate cutting party, and might even warrant another hike. even if/when the fed did cut rates,… Read more »
A very well thought out analysis, c_q. It’s clearly devilishly difficult to get all the various indices to be synchronized for an across the board economic upswing.
E 1,
If the Fed cuts interest rates and stocks rise won’t metals correspondingly decline?
Hey, it looks like somebody lit a fire under palladium. What prompted that jump?
Hi Kaiser Wilhelm,
I saw that a Palladium miner said a day or two ago they may idle the operations at their mine if the price for Palladium does not improve. I am guessing just saying that caused an increase in the price.
Hello there, Jeff Legan. So very good to hear from you again, my friend! Hope you have been well; it’s really great to see you here!
Thanks so much for the anecdote, especially since it explains a lot about what is going on in the world of palladium. I don’t own any palladium myself but I do like to make a habit of keeping up with all of the many factors that influence the production of collectable coinage.
I am well, Kaiser Wilhelm. Sorry to read in another comment you are about to have a liver test. I have been enjoying seeing your comments here regularly again as well as the comments from the “old” and “new” regulars. The vibe in general here is now welcoming and informative, in my opinion. This reminds me of when I first starting visiting this site (Somewhere between 2011-2015 I think), so I like it. Seems like there are fewer articles being generated here lately. Is that my imagination? I would not mind seeing articles focusing on one older coin in detail… Read more »
It is gratifying and reassuring to hear you are indeed doing well these days, Jeff Legan. I really missed your presence here since you have from your initial appearance here have been not only a great numismatic knowledge contributor and a wonderful stabilizing and calming influence but also an obviously great guy all around whose always positive and uplifting vibes make the site a better place for everyone. As for the requests you listed, Jeff, regarding what you would like to see more of appear on our relatively small but always active and lively talkfest venue, I have no doubt… Read more »
Kaiser, There is an estimated $6T side-lined in Money Market Funds yielding about 5.15% interest per year. When and if the Fed cuts rates, Money Market yields will drop too. Some Wall Street people believe that will cause investors to migrate out of Money Markets and back into stocks. The effect could be a big event that gradually pushes stocks higher. Also, money could walk away from treasuries and bonds too. If this includes money from overseas investors, some of it is likely to find its way into Gold – specifically, Asia, China, and India. This is just what I’ve… Read more »
That is why I always “Follow” the 7-Day Money Market Yield.
E 1, The biggest take-away I have gleaned from the scenario you have laid out is that there is always an enormous amount of money in play and that the biggest and as such most consequential decisions that are made regarding this vast fortune are the ones that determine where this money will be situated which is to say for what purpose(s) it will be employed. It also appears to be the case that all things being equal investors by and large prefer to have a sizeable portion of their holdings in possibly less lucrative but definitely more secure financial… Read more »
PT Barnum….. was right….time for price increases
As one of our more elusive but in his own unique way consistently reliable participants has fairly regularly been known to declare on this site, “Run, Forrest, run!”
Regarding proof sets in OGP, what is best way to store the coins? Keep them in the original plastic lenses and proof box? And, if so, is it better to stack them flat in a storage box or stack vertical on end?
Good question on flat vs vertical. I have both going on and I can tell you that some of my 2009 copper PF sets didn’t stay tone free, as well as my ’09 Lincoln C&C set while inside a shoe box. Some ASE rolls didn’t fare as well either… I picked up a few of the larger Harbor Freight Ammo boxes to give them a try on oxygen mitigation for sets, etc. If you want to get serious, get the Intercept Shield type of storage boxes? I have some for slabs, as well as 2×2’s. Some kind of preventative molecular… Read more »
Thanks for your thoughts, Rick. I’m just trying to get all of my sets organized by year and type. I discovered that my local hardware store has the best boxes– white and brown snap lock boxes of all sizes. They’re made for heavier items (hardware) so are perfect for coins, and best of all they’re free, clean and frequently available as they restock.
That sounds ideal right there, and can be easily labelled. Better than my shoe boxes. I need to do the same thing, and weed out some stuff.
Look for those keeper coins, you never know.
Rick and Major D,
Heavy-duty snap lock boxes versus shoe boxes…hmmm. I’m guessing that as regards durability and protection the former are likely superior, but considering I don’t have a handy source of those I am for the forseeable future going to be satisfied with the latter, that is to say my black and white “shoeboxes” which are in fact plain and simple cointainers for collectables I purchased at a local hobby store.
I had a few sliver coins in some Iris plastic storage containers and they started toning. Some of them were in plastic flips. I’ve heard those flips often had PVC in them. The weird they the toning happened near the opening of the flips. I don’t know from the plastic container or the flips or something else. I’ve dumped all the flips (except those for the toned cons) and I’m not sure about the plastic container.
VinnieC, I don’t know if I’m risking toning or not but I’m leaving my proof coins in OGP, then stacking the sets in brown cardboard boxes, which are then further stacked in a plastic tote. Kind of like the Russian nesting thing. They’re in a conditioned space, so I’m hoping it’s good enough for a few years.
Major D,
My point is it is hard to tell what causes the toning and preventative measures. I’ve always read that it has been sulfur for older paper. I think the OGP does provide a layer of protection. I had a coin from a foreign mint com in a capsule clam shell case and something like an intercept strip. Most of my silver has not shown any toning. I few not in capsules have. One in a capsule has developed a gold toning that is not to offensive.
VinnieC, I think any kind of oxygen/gasses, even in very small amounts over years, and in ‘so called’ sealed tubs, etc. are prone to toning silver and gold. Silver especially. One of my ‘junk silver’ boxes is a used Monster Box(definitely not airtight)and the ASE rolls inside all have/had toning on the top coin only(inside the sealed roll)after 14 years. I also had some Ag bars & rounds in the same box. The old style brittle plastic seal slit open and the air toned the silver bars at the slit. Same with all silver rounds in flips–toning near the opening… Read more »
Rick,
To dip or not to dip?
1951-P MS65-FBL
The PCGS Photo.
E1 Dip it bud, go for it. With its unique toning & character it’s attractive enough, but too much imo. The toning/pvc(?) is just too deep giving it a caramel color. It looks to have been in a set or album in a musty situation? The deeper brownish layer along the circumference could be a challenge–no scrubbing allowed!? If anyone can restore that coin, it is you. It is also up to you to make the final call. It’s not a cheap coin. If it’s for the Album–do it! Do I submit, or not? I dipped it for 5 seconds… Read more »
Rick, I would dip it one more time and agitate the obverse fields with a cotton cue tip to try and get rid of that hazy build up (1881-S above). Maybe a 15-20 second dip and use tongs. Rinse with DI water. They say not to use compressed air, but I always do. Especially on proofs. I use “Propel” compressed air with a screw on nozzle and never had a problem. Just a couple of even blasts to dissipate the water from both sides of the coin. Using a high grade absorbent napkin, roll the coin on the edge to… Read more »
Also, Trueview photos can be a little…….
Please do update-great stuff. I think I will do what you said exactly. I need to get more dip. My e*Z*est was contaminated and I discarded it. I need more dip–Which dip this time? PCGS does some ‘tricks’ with brightness, contrast, and color saturation no doubt. Not to mention up to 38 MB Hi-Rez photos(Good). Your scope photo looks like a different coin, but the conditions between the scope and PCGS are apples & oranges.. Later I’m going to set up a hi-rez photo diagnosis for you(any)to view using the Lucy Hays MS69 Gold–the rim is a total mess, and… Read more »
https://www.wizardcoinsupply.com/products/coin-chemicals/
And use a sonic cleaner
1951-P Raw, NO Bell Lines. So There.
And NO toning/residue. Gotcha!
Rick,
Ok, you win.
Cheers
R.I.P. Martin Mull
Major D,
This absolutely hysterically hilarious “talk show” is by far one of my all-time favorites. Broadcasting out of the Tri-County area just down the road from the landmark Dew Drop Inn, featuring sarcastic straight-faced host Barth Gimble, impossibly clueless sidekick Jerry Hubbard, unvaryingly droll band leader Happy Kyne & the Mirthmakers and the excruciatingly daft song stylist Tony Roletti.
Tony Roletti I forgot about him.. one time at the batting cages an old guy was hitting g ahead of my kid. When he walked out Fred Willard prepping for a celebrity softball game, nice guy. RIP
John Q. Coinage,
This masterfully imaginative comic ensemble consisting among others of Martin Mull, Fred Willard, Frank De Vol, Bill Kirchenbauer, Dabney Coleman, Kenneth Mars and Jim Varney had to have been born of some conspiratorily winking alignment of the stars; what else could possibly explain it?
That skit with Jim Varney showcasing his electric car on Fernwood was classic. When it wouldn’t start, he opened up the hood and all you could see was rows of D batteries, and then he had to check each one as you would with a Christmas light string. Mind you, this was 1977 long before the electric car was a real thing.
That was a priceless demonstration of deadpan straightfaced humor at its very finest, Major D. And just when I thought I couldn’t possibly laugh any more Fred Willard remarked that he “had once seen a European car with the motor in the trunk.” Unbelievable!
An up close and personal Gold coin study with opinions from anyone who cares to chime in…A heads up-You’re going to be going back and forth between this post and the photo, but that’s ok, trust me. It’s coin talk anyway!? The PCGS TrueView photos catch a lot of detail and I enjoy it. The 2011-W Lucy Hays MS69 doesn’t look too bad with the naked eye or 5x on the magnifier. Once you zoom in things get into focus real quick. Let’s take a look at a few things for the heck of it… The image below has the… Read more »
I’ve never looked at rims that closely, but that reverse rim is one ugly duckling!! Now you’ve got me wondering if I should muddle through my spouse collection to check out my Lucy.
Rick,
I don’t think many of those exist. They may all be like that. Probably a very short production run. That spot may be there forever. I have no experience conserving gold. So, I have no advise here except shop around for an upgrade if you can find one.
Cheers
E 1,
I was an avid stamp collector well before I got into coins so that stamp above brought back some very pleasant memories for me. Many thanks for that!
You’re welcome Kaiser.
I’m thinking, Hayes never had time to shave.
E 1
Ah yes, but you have to admit that’s one seriously impressive beard.
Lemonade Lucy and Rutherford. They were prohibitionists.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rutherford_B._Hayes
I’ll take that lemonade on the Rocks thank you very much…
With a splash of Patron Silver…
Cheers
What is the line between collecting and hoarding? I’m not sure which one I am anymore. If it’s based on the level of organization, then I’m in trouble! Nothing worse than spending the weekend looking for a coin you can’t locate.
Major D,
I’m with you on that – my suspicion is that we are hoarders. I’ve got so much coinage that I don’t know where to start looking. I keep threatening to organize it all and then put it off because I know I can’t do it all in one day. Wifey doesn’t like coming home from work to a numismatic mess (any mess, for that matter.). Maybe if one of her girlfriends takes her on a weeklong cruise, then I’d have a shot at it.
DAVESWFL,
Considering the world’s largest cruise ship caught fire and sat dead in the water this past week it might not be the opportune time to rearrange your collection.
DAVESWFL, I definitely have to plan of my wife being away before I unleash a mess. Otherwise, I have to retreat to my Man Cave. But then, whenever I reappear, she always has to ask: “have you been counting your coins?”
Major D (and DAVESWFL),
For simplicity’s sake I draw an artificial line between those of my Mint purchases in which I buy just one of any item – in my mind that’s collecting – and those other occasions when I pick up two or more of something – which moves me into hoarding territory – due to my belief that item might someday be sought after as “special”.
A tale of two coins;
2-3 weeks ago as I was complaining about the Lincoln forward vs Shield forward on graded 1C coins…
“VinnieC.
Here is a coin to rationalize for a sec?
The Prestigious 2019-W Lincoln Unc Cent with an elusive MS-70RD grade.
It’s probably worth $1000. Maybe $2000?”
Last week that same coin(below) sold for 4,612.
PCGS population in MS-70RD = 11 coins. PCGS Valuation $1,100.
PCGS/industry #752260 Regular Strike
https://www.greatcollections.com/Coin/1602342/2019-W-Lincoln-Cent-Shield-PCGS-MS-70-RD
And tonight this coin below sold for $433..(Same 2019-W UNC type Coin).
NGC population in MS-70RD = 142 coins. NGC Valuation $855.
PCGS/industry #752261 Regular Strike(FDI/First Strike)
https://www.greatcollections.com/Coin/1606431/2019-W-Lincoln-Cent-First-Day-of-Issue-NGC-MS-70-RD-Lincoln-Label
Just what in tarnation?!!?
No I didn’t buy it…
Maybe I should’ve?
And Lincoln is on the front!
As far as Great Collections goes, these are the results…
PCGS = 1 coin last week. $4612.
NGC = 18 coins from 2019-2024 $500. avg.
The PCGS 2019-W MS-70RD must be in higher demand because of their population being much lower?
PS: Every single NGC 2019-W MS-70 RD has Lincoln facing forward.
NGC has the Shield facing forward on many other 1C coins(2017-S, 2023 “V”)
$461.20 would make the most sense. The PCGS MS-70 PL goes for about $5k. There could be a decimal place malfunction in their software or some drunk visually impaired person made a bidding error. I would dismiss it as some kind of error, mistake, or malfunction.
E1, It looks to me like some shill bidding going on by a couple of Jackasses(my French). I know GC will refund a coin 24 hrs after delivery(I’ve done it). If you abuse that privilege, no more GC bidding for a while. I’ll bet I see that coin again imo(like my 1976-S coin), If it comes back I’ll see it … It was put up for auction 3 weeks prior to the hammer at a starting bid of $2600(suspicious). That’s more than double the PCGS Valuation, which is likely inflated. Only 2 bidders participated(suspicious). The winning bidder had a secret… Read more »
Totally agree! Only two bidders is a dead giveaway.
Nice investigative work.
Looks like the Shiller got shilled.
It’s quite pleasing when a crook gets a taste of his own medicine.
I wonder if PCGS had a Lincoln label if hey would still put the shield facing forward. I think the $1100 is because PCGS seems more stingy with their 70 grade I can’t explain the 4k+change auction price.
PS I did find some sort of PCGS Lincoln label.
Upcoming CCAC agenda: “July 15, 2024, and July 16, 2024
10:00 pm to 4:00 pm (EDT) each day
Remote via Videoconference
July 15, 2024 – Day 1
Review and discussion of the candidate designs for the 2026 Semiquincentennial Dime, two of the five 2026 Semiquincentennial Quarters (commemorating the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution), and the 2026 American Eagle Platinum Proof Coin.
July 16, 2024 – Day 2
Review and discussion of the candidate designs for the 2026 Semiquincentennial Half Dollar and 2026 Semiquincentennial “Best of the Mint” Silver Medals.”(Federal Register, publication 7/2/24)
That (those) should be an interesting meeting(s). Thanks for the heads up CaliSkier.
It seems that the “Best of the Mint” has been covered somewhat already?
How about a surprise? Something without a profile, tree, animal, or something PI(Politically Incorrect)…
How about reprising a design that has a simplistic, yet amazingly powerful message on both th Obverse and the Reverse….
Half of your request was fulfilled in 2006 Rick. The 2006 Ben Franklin, “Founding Father” Ag $1 commemorative reverse. “Benjamin Franklin Commemorative “Founding Father” Silver Dollar Coin”. Link to USM Commemorative Coins page for any interested in the information pertaining to the 2026 Ben Franklin Commemoratives.(2 Ag $1 designs, “Scientist” was the other)
https://www.usmint.gov/coins/coin-medal-programs/commemorative-coins/benjamin-franklin-founding-father
Thanks,
I think this may have been brought up before. JQC chimed in on it?
I like the messaging.
Perhaps in 2076 for something similar, but I don’t think I’ll make it to the party.
But 2026 for a 250th reprisal of the design could be worth a gander?
That was the theme of the day back then. “Mind Your Business.” Classic Benjiman Franklin.
I try to convey that to my Wife sometimes as I’m reading, blogging, inspecting, or shopping for coins all day…
She just doesn’t get it?
Maybe it’s me that doesn’t get it?
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I got the Benjamin Franklin Founding Father coin just because I liked the reverse.
With this example you have without a doubt succeeded in highlighting one of the most interesting, attractive and meaningful American coins ever, and that does go for both the obverse and the reverse, Rick. This piece defines “classic”!
Speaking of a reverse with “a simplistic, yet amazingly powerful message”, here’s my favorite:
Excellent quote from an Excellent Man.
I’ve got a couple of those coins MS/PF tucked away in my ‘shoebox’, but not for long!