US Mint Sales: Missouri Innovation Dollar Nears 721,000 in Start

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On July 18, the United States Mint released rolls and bags of dollars celebrating Innovation in Missouri. These $1 coins depict George Washington Carver gently smiling while examining a sample of his work in his laboratory.

CoinNews photo stack of American Innovation Dollars for Missouri
This CoinNews photo shows a stack of American Innovation Dollars for Missouri

Offered in options of 25-coin rolls and 100-coin bags, priced at $34.50 and $117.50 respectively, the products logged initial sales of a combined 720,850 coins, representing the slowest start this year in the series. In comparison:

  • The 2024 dollar for Maine, depicting Dr. Bernard Lown and his invention of the direct current defibrillator, opened at 908,150 coins (now at 802,420 coins after some negative adjustments).
  • The 2024 dollar for Alabama, showcasing a Saturn V rocket, began with sales of 980,800 coins (now at 1,004,650 coins), marking the highest debut for the series since its introduction in 2018.
  • The 2024 dollar for Illinois, depicting the invention of the steel plow, opened at 801,250 coins (now at 770,100 coins after some negative adjustments).

Elsewhere, sales of the 2024-P Uncirculated Morgan and Peace Silver Dollars climbed by a combined 15,206 coins during their first full week of sales, adding to their four-day debut of 349,029 coins. Their total sales now amount to 364,235 coins. The new gains were fairly evenly distributed between both coins, although the Morgan dollar saw slightly stronger sales.

U.S. Mint Top Sellers

Here is the roster of the U.S. Mint’s most sought-after numismatic products for the week ending on July 21:

  1. 2024-P Missouri American Innovation 25-Coin Rolls (+7,100)
  2. 2024-D Missouri American Innovation 25-Coin Rolls (+6,478)
  3. 2024-P Uncirculated Morgan Silver Dollar (+4,334 to 173,614)
  4. 2024-P Uncirculated Peace Silver Dollar (+4,112 to 166,541)
  5. 2024 Proof Set (+2,589 to 243,906)
  6. 2024-P Missouri American Innovation 100-Coin Bags (+1,944)
  7. 2024-D Missouri American Innovation 100-Coin Bags (+1,870)
  8. 2024-W Proof Silver Eagle (+653 to 266,294)
  9. 2024-W $50 American Gold Buffalo Proof Coin (+476 to 6,154)
  10. 2024-W $50 Uncirculated American Gold Eagle Coin (+433 to 2,332)

In its latest report, the U.S. Mint published sales data for 472 numismatic products. The data revealed that 56 products outperformed their sales from the previous week, compared to 30 in the prior report. Three products experienced week-over-week increases of more than 1,000 units, compared to 4 in the prior report.

Two products recorded negative weekly sales, compared to 6 in the previous report. The 2024 Silver Proof Set tumbled by 10,514, while the 2018-W $10 American Liberty Gold Coin dipped by 1.

US Mint Sales: Numismatic Products

Below are tables showing the latest available sales for U.S. Mint numismatic products. The sales period covers from July 15 to July 21. Products with an asterisk (*) are no longer available or had no reported sales.

2024 Commemorative Coins

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2024-S Proof Greatest Generation Half Dollar 16,803 16,895 92 0.55%
2024-D Uncirculated Greatest Generation Half Dollar 7,219 7,241 22 0.30%
2024-P Proof Greatest Generation Silver Dollar 28,317 28,542 225 0.79%
2024-P Uncirculated Greatest Generation Silver Dollar 9,663 9,716 53 0.55%
2024-W Proof Greatest Generation $5 Gold Coin 1,413 1,423 10 0.71%
2024-W Uncirculated Greatest Generation $5 Gold Coin 1,105 1,107 2 0.18%
2024 Greatest Generation Three-Coin Proof Set 4,146 4,157 11 0.27%
2024-S Proof Harriet Tubman Half Dollar 11,101 11,129 28 0.25%
2024-D Uncirculated Harriet Tubman Half Dollar 5,740 5,755 15 0.26%
2024-P Proof Harriet Tubman Silver Dollar 18,854 18,922 68 0.36%
2024-P Uncirculated Harriet Tubman Silver Dollar 6,539 6,561 22 0.34%
2024-W Proof Harriet Tubman $5 Gold Coin 1,420 1,423 3 0.21%
2024-W Uncirculated Harriet Tubman $5 Gold Coin 1,152 1,152
2024 Harriet Tubman Three-Coin Proof Set 3,919 3,928 9 0.23%

Morgan & Peace Silver Dollars

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2024-P Uncirculated Morgan Silver Dollar 169,280 173,614 4,334 2.56%
2024-P Uncirculated Morgan Silver Dollar (40 – Bulk) 221 308 87 39.37%
2024-P Uncirculated Peace Silver Dollar 162,429 166,541 4,112 2.53%
2024-P Uncirculated Peace Silver Dollar (40 – Bulk) 212 294 82 38.68%
2023-S Morgan & Peace Silver Dollar Reverse Proof Set 247,755 247,755
2023-S Proof Morgan Silver Dollar 357,351 357,749 398 0.11%
2023-S Proof Morgan Silver Dollar (Bulk – 40 Coins) 443 443
2023-S Proof Peace Silver Dollar 324,141 324,435 294 0.09%
2023-S Proof Peace Silver Dollar (Bulk – 40 Coins) 438 438
2023-P Uncirculated Morgan Silver Dollar 260,527 260,527
2023-P Uncirculated Morgan Silver Dollar (40 – Bulk) 330 330
2023-P Uncirculated Peace Silver Dollar 260,450 260,450
2023-P Uncirculated Peace Silver Dollar (40 – Bulk) 338 338

2024 Liberty & Britannia

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2024-W Liberty & Britannia Gold Coin 5,539 5,539
2024-P Liberty & Britannia Silver Medal 32,761 32,904 143 0.44%

Armed Forces Silver Medals

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
U.S. Army 2.5 Ounce Silver Medal 9,988 9,988
U.S. Marine Corps 2.5 Ounce Silver Medal 9,988 9,988
U.S. Navy 2.5 Ounce Silver Medal 9,987 9,987
U.S. Coast Guard 2.5 Ounce Silver Medal 9,955 9,955
U.S. Air Force 2.5 Ounce Silver Medal 9,953 9,953
U.S. Army 1 Ounce Silver Medal 16,104 16,174 70 0.43%
U.S. Marine Corps 1 Ounce Silver Medal 20,138 20,165 27 0.13%
U.S. Navy 1 Ounce Silver Medal 22,099 22,141 42 0.19%
U.S. Coast Guard 1 Ounce Silver Medal 18,478 18,495 17 0.09%
U.S. Air Force 1 Ounce Silver Medal 21,608 21,631 23 0.11%

American Liberty Products

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2023-W $100 American Liberty Gold Coin 12,187 12,199 12 0.10%
2023-P American Liberty Silver Medal 33,145 33,209 64 0.19%
2022-P American Liberty Silver Medal 74,398 74,400 2 0.00%
2021-W $100 American Liberty Gold Coin 12,471 12,471
2019-W $100 American Liberty Gold Coin 24,609 24,609
2019-P American Liberty Silver Medal 44,928 44,928
2018-W $10 American Liberty Gold Coin 59,721 59,720 -1 0.00%
2017 American Liberty Silver Four-Medal Set* 32,647 32,647
2017-S Enhanced Uncirculated Coin Set* 210,419 210,419
2017-W $100 American Liberty Gold Coin 39,248 39,248
2017-P Proof American Liberty Silver Medal* 55,187 55,187

Clad Proof Sets

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2024 Proof Set 241,317 243,906 2,589 1.07%
2023 Proof Set* 369,147 369,147
2022 Proof Set* 400,016 400,016
2021 Proof Set* 512,866 512,866
2020 Proof Set* 464,730 464,730
2019 Proof Set* 601,364 601,364
2018 Proof Set* 517,081 517,081
2017 Proof Set* 568,678 568,678
2023 American Innovation Dollars Proof Set 56,298 56,455 157 0.28%
2022 American Innovation Dollars Proof Set 80,946 81,052 106 0.13%
2021 American Innovation Dollars Proof Set 86,396 86,485 89 0.10%
2020 American Innovation Dollars Proof Set 107,067 107,067
2019 American Innovation Dollars Proof Set 148,558 148,558
2024 American Women Quarters Proof Set 38,681 38,854 173 0.45%
2023 American Women Quarters Proof Set 56,836 56,882 46 0.08%
2022 American Women Quarters Proof Set* 42,821 42,821
2020 America the Beautiful Quarters Proof Set* 64,242 64,242
2019 America the Beautiful Quarters Proof Set 84,697 84,697
2018 America the Beautiful Quarters Proof Set* 86,697 86,697

Silver Proof Sets

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2024 Silver Proof Set 150,879 140,365 -10,514 -6.97%
2023 Silver Proof Set 193,833 193,910 77 0.04%
2022 Silver Proof Set* 249,349 249,349
2021 Silver Proof Set* 303,795 303,796 1 0.00%
2020 Silver Proof Set* 313,183 313,183
2019 Silver Proof Set* 413,890 413,890
2018 Silver Proof Set* 332,274 332,274
2018 Silver Reverse Proof Set* 199,116 199,116
2024 American Women Quarters Silver Proof Set 31,825 31,885 60 0.19%
2023 American Women Quarters Silver Proof Set 45,399 45,409 10 0.02%
2022 American Women Quarters Silver Proof Set 57,716 57,717 1 0.00%
2020 America the Beautiful Quarters Silver Proof Set* 64,012 64,012
2019 America the Beautiful Quarters Silver Proof Set* 78,588 78,588
2018 America the Beautiful Quarters Silver Proof Set* 79,301 79,301
2024 Congratulations Gift Set 24,413 24,493 80 0.33%
2023 Congratulations Gift Set 39,278 39,278
2022 Congratulations Gift Set 29,710 29,710
2021 Congratulations Gift Set* 39,997 39,997
2020 Congratulations Gift Set* 24,468 24,468
2019 Congratulations Gift Set* 31,638 31,638
2023 Limited Edition Silver Proof Set 26,833 26,849 16 0.06%
2022 Limited Edition Silver Proof Set 49,724 49,724
2021 Limited Edition Silver Proof Set 49,852 49,852
2020 Limited Edition Silver Proof Set* 50,061 50,061

US Mint Uncirculated Sets

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2023 Uncirculated Mint Set 181,073 181,311 238 0.13%
2022 Uncirculated Mint Set 249,995 249,995
2021 Uncirculated Mint Set 230,687 230,756 69 0.03%
2020 Uncirculated Mint Set* 211,787 211,787
2019 Uncirculated Mint Set* 346,117 346,117
2018 Uncirculated Mint Set* 257,536 257,536
2017 Uncirculated Mint Set* 286,813 286,813

Kids Coin Sets

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2019 Youth Coin and Currency Set 24,888 24,890 2 0.01%
2019 Explore and Discover Coin Set 44,473 44,496 23 0.05%
2019 Rocketship* 49,921 49,921
2014 Coin Discovery Set* 13,151 13,151

Ornaments

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2023 U.S. Mint Ornament 5,048 5,053 5 0.10%
2023 Mighty Minters Ornament 3,064 3,068 4 0.13%
2022 U.S. Mint Ornament 5,776 5,780 4 0.07%
2022 Mighty Minters Ornament 4,122 4,123 1 0.02%
2023 Bessie Coleman Ornament 1,252 1,252
2023 Edith Kanakaʻole Ornament; 1,424 1,426 2 0.14%
2023 Eleanor Roosevelt Ornament 1,727 1,729 2 0.12%
2023 Jovita Idar Ornament 1,261 1,264 3 0.24%
2023 Maria Tallchief Ornament 1,483 1,484 1 0.07%
2022 Maya Angelou Ornament 3,312 3,315 3 0.09%
2022 Dr. Sally Ride Ornament 3,409 3,409
2022 Wilma Mankiller Ornament 2,346 2,347 1 0.04%
2022 Nina Otero-Warren Ornament 1,829 1,829
2022 Anna May Wong Ornament 3,276 3,278 2 0.06%
2021 Mighty Minters Ornament 4,821 4,821
2021 U.S. Mint Ornament 7,969 7,969
2020 Mighty Minters Ornament 4,581 4,582 1 0.02%
2020 U.S. Mint Ornament 6,710 6,711 1 0.01%
2019 Mighty Minters Ornament 7,105 7,105
2019 U.S. Mint Ornament 11,984 11,984

Proof & Reverse Proof Silver Eagles

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2024-W Proof Silver Eagle 265,641 266,294 653 0.25%
2024-W Proof Silver Eagle (Bulk – 40 Coins) 1,463 1,463
2023-S Proof Silver Eagle 181,276 181,393 117 0.06%
2023-S Proof Silver Eagle (Bulk – 40 Coins) 743 743
2022-S Proof Silver Eagle 199,698 199,698
2022-S Proof Silver Eagle (Bulk – 40 Coins) 2,925 2,925
2023-W Proof Silver Eagle 436,487 436,487
2023-W Proof Silver Eagle (Bulk – 40 Coins) 2,118 2,118
2022-W Proof Silver Eagle 496,994 496,994
2022-W Proof Silver Eagle (Bulk – 40 Coins) 4,171 4,171
2021 Reverse Proof American Silver Eagle Two-Coin Set* 124,924 124,924
2021-S Proof Silver Eagle, Type 2* 199,748 199,748
2021-S Proof Silver Eagle, Type 2 (Bulk – 40 Coins)* 652 652
2021-W Proof Silver Eagle, Type 2* 300,096 300,096
2021-W Proof Silver Eagle, Type 2 (Bulk – 40 Coins)* 2,142 2,142
2021-W Proof Silver Eagle, Type 1* 299,911 299,911
2021-W Proof Silver Eagle, Type 1 (Bulk – 40 Coins)* 686 686

Uncirculated Silver Eagles

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2024 88,242 88,461 219 0.25%
2023 138,853 138,880 27 0.02%
2022 164,602 164,602
2022 Bulk 40 989 989
2021* 174,958 174,958
2021 Bulk 40* 324 324

2024 Proof American Eagle Gold Coins

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
1 oz 2,588 2,628 40 1.55%
1/2 oz 1,287 1,300 13 1.01%
1/4 oz 4,363 4,402 39 0.89%
1/10 oz 6,465 6,574 109 1.69%
4-Coin Set 4,193 4,203 10 0.24%

2023 Proof American Eagle Gold Coins

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
1 oz 6,474 6,474
1/2 oz 2,011 2,011
1/4 oz 4,492 4,492
1/10 oz 13,424 13,424
4-Coin Set 9,977 9,977

2022 Proof American Eagle Gold Coins

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
1 oz 5,913 5,913
1/2 oz 1,970 1,970
1/4 oz 4,464 4,464
1/10 oz 13,806 13,806
4-Coin Set 9,906 9,906

Uncirculated American Eagle Gold Coins

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2024 1,899 2,332 433 22.80%
2023 6,440 6,450 10 0.16%
2022 8,857 8,857
2021* 8,964 8,964
2020* 6,284 6,284
2019* 5,851 5,851

Proof American Buffalo Gold Coins

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2024 Proof Gold Buffalo 5,678 6,154 476 8.38%
2023 Proof Gold Buffalo 15,593 15,608 15 0.10%
2022 Proof Gold Buffalo 15,943 15,944 1 0.01%
2021 Proof Gold Buffalo* 16,969 16,969
2020 Proof Gold Buffalo* 11,887 11,887
2019 Proof Gold Buffalo* 14,844 14,844

Barbara Bush First Spouse Gold Coins

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2020-W Proof 2,968 2,968
2020-W Uncirculated 1,967 1,967

Proof American Platinum Eagle

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2024 4,684 4,699 15 0.32%
2023 8,372 8,378 6 0.07%
2022 9,941 9,941
2021 9,884 9,884
2020 9,835 9,835
2019 11,268 11,268
2018 16,172 16,172
2017* 8,890 8,890

American Palladium Eagle

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2023-W Uncirculated 5,487 5,492 5 0.09%
2022-W Reverse Proof 7,374 7,374
2021-W Proof 5,170 5,170
2020-W Uncirculated 9,746 9,746
2019-W Reverse Proof 18,839 18,839
2018-W Proof* 14,986 14,986

Presidential Silver Medals

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2024 James A. Garfield Presidential Silver Medal 11,271 11,293 22 0.20%
2024 Rutherford B. Hayes Presidential Silver Medal 11,573 11,583 10 0.09%
2023 Ulysses S. Grant Presidential Silver Medal 13,570 13,583 13 0.10%
2023 Andrew Johnson Presidential Silver Medal 12,616 12,620 4 0.03%
2023 Abraham Lincoln Presidential Silver Medal 19,274 19,286 12 0.06%
2023 James Buchanan Presidential Silver Medal 12,431 12,433 2 0.02%
2021 Franklin Pierce Presidential Silver Medal 12,660 12,662 2 0.02%
2022 Millard Fillmore Presidential Silver Medal 12,766 12,769 3 0.02%
2022 Zachary Taylor Presidential Silver Medal 13,158 13,162 4 0.03%
2022 James Knox Polk Presidential Silver Medal 13,401 13,404 3 0.02%
2021 John Tyler Presidential Silver Medal 13,788 13,788
2021 William Henry Harrison Presidential Silver Medal 13,750 13,753 3 0.02%
2021 Martin Van Buren Presidential Silver Medal 13,885 13,887 2 0.01%
2020 Andrew Jackson Presidential Silver Medal 16,820 16,822 2 0.01%
2019 John Quincy Adams Presidential Silver Medal 14,962 14,964 2 0.01%
2019 James Monroe Presidential Silver Medal 15,425 15,427 2 0.01%
2019 James Madison Presidential Silver Medal 17,073 17,076 3 0.02%
2019 Thomas Jefferson Presidential Silver Medal 24,523 24,532 9 0.04%
2018 George Washington Presidential Silver Medal 35,631 35,641 10 0.03%
2018 John Adams Presidential Silver Medal 23,826 23,831 5 0.02%

American Innovation Reverse Proof Sets

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2023 38,218 38,292 74 0.19%
2022 49,709 49,711 2 0.00%
2021 49,604 49,604

2024 American Innovation Dollars – Missouri

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 7,100
25-coin roll set (D) 6,478
100-coin bag (P) 1,944
100-coin bag (D) 1,870

2024 American Innovation Dollars – Maine

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 7,625 7,651 26 0.34%
25-coin roll set (D) 6,663 6,687 24 0.36%
100-coin bag (P) 2,506 2,516 10 0.40%
100-coin bag (D) 1,919 1,924 5 0.26%

2024 American Innovation Dollars – Alabama

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 8,384 8,384
25-coin roll set (D) 7,431 7,434 3 0.04%
100-coin bag (P) 3,149 3,149
100-coin bag (D) 2,943 2,943

2024 American Innovation Dollars – Illinois

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 7,752 7,789 37 0.48%
25-coin roll set (D) 7,148 7,179 31 0.43%
100-coin bag (P) 1,958 1,972 14 0.72%
100-coin bag (D) 1,973 1,987 14 0.71%

2023 American Innovation Dollars – Mississippi

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 7,947 7,947
25-coin roll set (D) 6,881 6,881
100-coin bag (P) 2,245 2,254 9 0.40%
100-coin bag (D) 2,287 2,294 7 0.31%

2023 American Innovation Dollars – Indiana

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 8,034 8,034
25-coin roll set (D) 6,994 6,994
100-coin bag (P) 3,007 3,007
100-coin bag (D) 2,793 2,793

2023 American Innovation Dollars – Louisiana

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 7,990 8,000 10 0.13%
25-coin roll set (D) 6,990 6,990
100-coin bag (P) 2,898 2,916 18 0.62%
100-coin bag (D) 2,750 2,750

2023 American Innovation Dollars – Ohio

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 8,016 8,016
25-coin roll set (D) 6,978 6,978
100-coin bag (P) 2,963 2,963
100-coin bag (D) 2,740 2,740

2022 American Innovation Dollars – Tennessee

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%

Increase

25-coin roll set (P) 7,014 7,014
25-coin roll set (D) 7,010 7,010
100-coin bag (P) 2,781 2,781
100-coin bag (D) 2,786 2,786

2022 American Innovation Dollars – Kentucky

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 7,009 7,009
25-coin roll set (D) 6,997 6,997
100-coin bag (P) 2,771 2,771
100-coin bag (D) 2,779 2,779

2022 American Innovation Dollars – Vermont

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 7,023 7,023
25-coin roll set (D) 7,011 7,011
100-coin bag (P) 2,787 2,787
100-coin bag (D) 2,778 2,778

2022 American Innovation Dollars – Rhode Island

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 7,010 7,010
25-coin roll set (D) 7,007 7,007
100-coin bag (P) 2,789 2,789
100-coin bag (D) 2,787 2,787

2021 American Innovation Dollars – North Carolina

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 7,010 7,010
25-coin roll set (D) 7,018 7,018
100-coin bag (P) 2,789 2,789
100-coin bag (D) 2,790 2,790

2021 American Innovation Dollars – New York

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 7,006 7,006
25-coin roll set (D) 7,013 7,013
100-coin bag (P) 2,786 2,786
100-coin bag (D) 2,785 2,785

2021 American Innovation Dollars – Virginia

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 7,015 7,015
25-coin roll set (D) 7,010 7,010
100-coin bag (P) 2,796 2,796
100-coin bag (D) 2,786 2,786

2021 American Innovation Dollars – New Hampshire

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 7,017 7,017
25-coin roll set (D) 7,017 7,017
100-coin bag (P) 2,789 2,789
100-coin bag (D) 2,790 2,790

2020 American Innovation Dollars – South Carolina

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Reverse Proof (S) 41,672 41,674 2 0.00%
25-coin roll set (P) 6,378 6,378
25-coin roll set (D) 6,399 6,399
100-coin bag (P) 2,734 2,734
100-coin bag (D) 2,378 2,378

2020 American Innovation Dollars – Maryland

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Reverse Proof (S) 49,794 49,794
25-coin roll set (P) 6,493 6,493
25-coin roll set (D) 6,471 6,471
100-coin bag (P) 2,725 2,725
100-coin bag (D) 2,737 2,737

2020 American Innovation Dollars – Massachusetts

Old
Sales
Latest

Sales

Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Reverse Proof (S) 49,726 49,727 1 0.00%
25-coin roll set (P) 6,486 6,486
25-coin roll set (D) 6,481 6,481
100-coin bag (P) 2,746 2,746
100-coin bag (D) 2,744 2,744

2020 American Innovation Dollars – Connecticut

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Reverse Proof (S) 47,227 47,257 30 0.06%
25-coin roll set (P) 6,496 6,496
25-coin roll set (D) 6,425 6,425
100-coin bag (P) 2,736 2,736
100-coin bag (D) 2,747 2,747

2019 American Innovation Dollars – Georgia

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Reverse Proof (S) 47,593 47,607 14 0.03%
25-coin roll set (P) 8,093 8,093
25-coin roll set (D) 7,542 7,542
100-coin bag (P) 3,459 3,459
100-coin bag (D) 3,436 3,445 9 0.26%

2019 American Innovation Dollars – New Jersey

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Reverse Proof (S) 51,038 51,040 2 0.00%
25-coin roll set (P) 9,103 9,103
25-coin roll set (D) 8,043 8,043
100-coin bag (P) 3,941 3,941
100-coin bag (D) 3,586 3,586

2019 American Innovation Dollars – Pennsylvania

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Reverse Proof (S) 55,677 55,710 33 0.06%
25-coin roll set (P) 10,457 10,457
25-coin roll set (D) 8,536 8,536
100-coin bag (P) 3,689 3,689
100-coin bag (D) 3,055 3,055

2019 American Innovation Dollars – Delaware

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Reverse Proof (S) 71,059 71,080 21 0.03%
25-coin roll set (P) 9,108 9,108
25-coin roll set (D) 8,372 8,372
100-coin bag (P) 3,203 3,203
100-coin bag (D) 3,385 3,385

2018 American Innovation Dollars

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Reverse Proof (S)* 74,720 74,720
Proof Coin (S) 254,127 254,127
25-coin roll set (P) 22,903 22,903
25-coin roll set (D) 25,725 25,725
100-coin bag (P)* 2,935 2,935
100-coin bag (D)* 2,954 2,954

George H.W. Bush Coin & Chronicles Set

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
$1 Coin & Set 11,516 11,516

2020 Bush Presidential $1 Coin & First Spouse Medal Set

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
$1 Coin & Set 9,876 9,876

2020 George H.W. Bush Presidential $1 Coins

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll (P) 24,922 24,922
25-coin roll (D) 24,064 24,121 57 0.24%
100-coin bag (P) 2,695 2,695
100-coin bag (D) 2,098 2,098
250-coin bag (P) 3,019 3,019
250-coin bag (D) 4,630 4,630

Native American Dollar Rolls

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2024-P Native American $1 25 Coin Roll 12,750 12,837 87 0.68%
2024-D Native American $1 25 Coin Roll 12,262 12,330 68 0.55%
2024-P Native American $1 100-Coin Bag 1,737 1,737
2024-D Native American $1 100-Coin Bag 1,747 1,752 5 0.29%
2024-P Native American $1 250-Coin Box 894 944 50 5.59%
2024-D Native American $1 250-Coin Box 950 961 11 1.16%
2023-P Native American $1 25 Coin Roll 13,922 13,922
2023-D Native American $1 25 Coin Roll 13,950 13,950
2023-P Native American $1 100-Coin Bag 1,695 1,695
2023-D Native American $1 100-Coin Bag 1,694 1,694
2023-P Native American $1 250-Coin Box 1,587 1,595 8 0.50%
2023-D Native American $1 250-Coin Box 1,618 1,618
2022-P Native American $1 25 Coin Roll 13,996 13,996
2022-D Native American $1 25 Coin Roll 13,965 13,965
2022-P Native American $1 100-Coin Bag 1,699 1,699
2022-D Native American $1 100-Coin Bag 1,614 1,614
2022-P Native American $1 250-Coin Box 1,698 1,698
2022-D Native American $1 250-Coin Box 1,699 1,699

Kennedy Half Dollar Rolls

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2024-dated 200-coin bag (P&D) 6,234 6,319 85 1.36%
2024-dated 2-roll set (P&D) 25,624 25,868 244 0.95%
2023-dated 200-coin bag (P&D) 11,164 11,171 7 0.06%
2023-dated 2-roll set (P&D) 24,987 24,987
2022-dated 200-coin bag (P&D) 10,999 10,999
2022-dated 2-roll set (P&D) 21,926 21,926
2021-dated 200-coin bag (P&D)* 9,976 9,976
2021-dated 2-roll set (P&D)* 21,989 21,989
2020-dated 200-coin bag (P&D)* 11,776 11,776
2020-dated 2-roll set (P&D)* 24,312 24,312
2019-dated 200-coin bag (P&D)* 11,534 11,534
2019-dated 2-roll set (P&D)* 24,132 24,132

2024 Dr. Mary Edwards Walker Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 10,242 10,285 43 0.42%
100-Coin Bag (P) 1,204 1,214 10 0.83%
100-Coin Bag (D) 1,045 1,055 10 0.96%
Two-Roll Set 2,358 2,372 14 0.59%

2024 Patsy Takemoto Mink Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 11,085 11,101 16 0.14%
100-Coin Bag (P) 1,480 1,485 5 0.34%
100-Coin Bag (D) 1,233 1,235 2 0.16%
Two-Roll Set 2,671 2,687 16 0.60%

2024 Rev. Dr. Pauli Murray Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 11,938 11,956 18 0.15%
100-Coin Bag (P) 1,765 1,770 5 0.28%
100-Coin Bag (D) 1,426 1,429 3 0.21%
Two-Roll Set 2,890 2,904 14 0.48%

2023 Maria Tallchief Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 12,552 12,553 1 0.01%
100-Coin Bag (P) 2,017 2,024 7 0.35%
100-Coin Bag (D) 1,742 1,746 4 0.23%
Two-Roll Set 3,524 3,536 12 0.34%

2023 Jovita Idar Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 12,595 12,595
100-Coin Bag (P) 3,982 3,989 7 0.18%
100-Coin Bag (D) 3,584 3,589 5 0.14%
Two-Roll Set 3,828 3,838 10 0.26%

2023 Eleanor Roosevelt Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 12,678 12,678
100-Coin Bag (P) 4,290 4,295 5 0.12%
100-Coin Bag (D) 3,957 3,961 4 0.10%
Two-Roll Set 4,526 4,538 12 0.27%

2023 Edith Kanakaʻole Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 12,585 12,585
100-Coin Bag (P) 7,299 7,301 2 0.03%
100-Coin Bag (D) 4,559 4,559
Two-Roll Set 5,768 5,775 7 0.12%

2023 Bessie Coleman Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 12,511 12,511
100-Coin Bag (P) 5,619 5,623 4 0.07%
100-Coin Bag (D) 4,923 4,927 4 0.08%
Two-Roll Set 5,903 5,912 9 0.15%

2022 Anna May Wong Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 7,617 7,617
100-Coin Bag (P) 1,860 1,860
100-Coin Bag (D) 1,858 1,858
Two-Roll Set 5,936 5,936

2022 Nina Otero-Warren Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 7,639 7,639
100-Coin Bag (P) 1,856 1,856
100-Coin Bag (D) 1,858 1,858
Two-Roll Set 5,890 5,890

2022 Wilma Mankiller Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 7,616 7,616
100-Coin Bag (P) 1,859 1,859
100-Coin Bag (D) 1,833 1,833
Two-Roll Set 5,918 5,918

2022 Dr. Sally Ride Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 7,603 7,603
100-Coin Bag (P) 1,854 1,854
100-Coin Bag (D) 1,852 1,852
Two-Roll Set 5,926 5,926

2022 Maya Angelou Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 7,588 7,588
100-Coin Bag (P) 1,858 1,858
100-Coin Bag (D) 1,861 1,861
Two-Roll Set 5,940 5,940

 

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Kaiser Wilhelm

The sales total of the 2024-S Silver Proof Set dropped by 10,514 units in this week’s Mint report. That, my friends, seems to be a TKO by any other name.

CaliSkier

Kaiser Wilhelm, that is definitely quite a significant decrease on the 2024 Silver Proof Sets indeed! We’ve become accustomed to “adjustments” in sales following a coins “reported” opening sales for sure. I’m just a tad curious to see how the “adjustments” tally downward for this latest 2024 Missouri AI $1’s. After all those 2024 Maine AI 1$’s have decreased by 85,730 coins since opening sales, as noted above in this latest report. Granted that’s coins not individual products, however this is still a fairly sharp decline IMO. How far will Missouri AI $1’s totals decline over the next few reports?… Read more »

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Kaiser Wilhelm

CaliSkier, Wow, there certainly is a veritable cornucopia of material to unpack here and I will try to address as much as possible of this the best I can. Firstly, those 2024 Silver Proof Sets did take quite a hit saleswise but I can’t say I’m all that much suprised considering the ever more unreasonably elevated price being charged for it. You hit the nail on the head when you said you saw this coming in 2021 as the price for this Silver Set jumped by $41.75 in one fell swoop even as it was being offered with three less… Read more »

Last edited 4 months ago by Kaiser Wilhelm
Major D

Kaiser, we won’t have long to wait to see how the 2024 AI$ Proof set (24GA) does upon release next week. The Mint increased the mintage limit to 99,792, up from 2023’s 80,055 (23GA). Both seem like they’re actual production numbers, especially the 99,792 because mintage limits usually are round numbers. I suspect the Mint is counting on the popularity of the Alabama Saturn V rolls and bags to skyrocket sales for the proof sets, so to speak.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Major D,

The Mint should consider itself fantastically fortunate to be able to include that one ultra-key coin in each of this year’s AI Proof and Reverse Proof Sets since I would bet dollars to donuts that without it both of those collections would be absolutely dead in the water.

Major D

CaliSkier, following up on the last article where you wrote: “We have no proof currently, that the Mint has detrashed and disposed of all the leftover Bush C&C sets.” The proof I have is from records kept when it was possible to check the available quantity in the source code. On Feb 6, 2022 the sales 9,694 + available 25,008 = 34,702. Now, after being unavailable for months, the number stands at 11,516. What happened to the 23,186 if not destroyed? Here’s some more based on my records of sales + available on Jan 15, 2023:  2018 Proof AI$… Read more »

Kaiser Wilhelm

Major D,

I of course have no reason or cause to quibble with the authenticity and/or accuracy of your facts and figures. My only input here would be that while trashed coin packaging may well be considered to be “destroyed”, wouldn’t it be somewhat kinder and gentler to describe what happens to surplus coins as being “melted down”? After all, coins are our friends.

Rick

I would quibble a bit and take it further to ask, as a non-Mint researcher(me)..
Where’s your proof that those many thousands of “available quantity then destroyed” coins & sets were ever produced/minted in the first place? Where’s the chart or mention on destruction data within the annual reports? Without looking, I’d guess that the Mintage figures have not been audited yet? Especially Bush…
This is a question, not a statement, thanks.

Major D

Rick and Kaiser, you can choose another word if you like but “destroyed” fits my characterization. I say “destroyed” in the sense that they were available for months and months then removed from inventory. I have no idea what happened to them, but they were not added back to inventory later. If they were never made, they would have not been in the inventory as available in the first place. The Mint has to have a way to allow or not allow sales to occur based on available inventory. They still do this, but we can no longer see it.… Read more »

Rick

“ If they were never made, they would have not been in the inventory as available in the first place.” “The Mint has to have a way to allow or not allow sales to occur based on available inventory.” Major D, I placed an order on 2/8/24 for an L&B Gold coin(day one). Your logic says that all 10,000 coins were available inventory that day. My logic says that not one single coin was available inventory that day. Furthermore, I will boldly claim that not one single coin had been struck yet on that day of availability. I, as you Major… Read more »

Major D

No, Rick that is not what I’m saying at all. Had the source code allowed viewing of the L&B inventory on that day I would speak to that. But it didn’t. I believe that you more than most understand the difference between a mintage & product limit and actual production numbers and available inventory. The L&B gold (10,000 mintage and product limit) were sold as advance orders, meaning the inventory was not yet available- hence the wait. The actual mintage so far as we know is below the 10,000 number, so likely fewer were made (but we’ll never know because… Read more »

Last edited 4 months ago by Major D
Rick

I think I’m feeling a bit semantic’d-out at the moment!?
Maybe the Mint can tell us if the sets were destroyed, or if the source code was truly accurate and not some sort of FOMO trick? I’m betting the answer is NO. Anything else is pure speculation.
Mintage limits = Apple
Product limits = Orange
Production numbers = Peach
Available inventory = Grapes
Mintage finals = Fruit salad

Kaiser Wilhelm

I think I see the problem, guys. The Avocado Smoothie is missing.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Rick and Major D,

I sense a golden opportunity to mount a virtual wall plaque to quote yet another memorable coin oriented descriptive, in this case I have no idea what happened to them”. Thanks, Rick!

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Kaiser Wilhelm

Major D and Rick,

The curiously unexplained and unquestionably abrupt vanishing of the quantity available search function from the product pages of the Mint’s website is not just a mystery unto itself but more significantly so a big loss for those who liked to ascertain the current inventory numbers of any given product in order to use that information in their various coin dealings.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Rick,

I have to assume that you actually meant to address the above question to Major D as I have no fixed and/or firm personal knowledge regarding any of those apparently controversial facts and figures. My point about “not quibbling” had everything to do with moving on to my single intended reference as to the use of the term “destroyed” and nothing whatsoever to say about production number claims and counter-claims.

Rick

✔️!

Major D

CaliSkier, as I’ve explained previously why you cannot base numismatic silver product pricing on premium or % over spot I won’t go into it again. But I will say the Mint is facing some really bad revenue numbers this year, even before the price increase, because of around 35% fewer sales from last year and increased gross costs. The price increase in no way helped, and sales will drop further as a result. The number of collectors has fallen away (and continues to fall), so I don’t believe the Mint can fix this problem by increasing mintages and lowering prices… Read more »

Kaiser Wilhelm

Major D and CaliSkier,

I am given to calling this the (as termed by me) infamous “Circuit City Effect”. As said corporation was on its way – due to ever-declining sales and a concurrent dearth of profits – to what eventually became an inevitable bankruptcy, its only visible solution was to keep prices high and inventory low, a clear recipe for what turned out to be certain disaster.

Major D

Well, I did my bit returning a few of them. As you know, the quality was not very good.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Major D,

As did I, having returned both of mine just as quickly as I could, and indeed, for the extravagant (over melt value) or for that matter any price the quality of the coins left a great deal to be desired.

Major D

Which makes me think, Kaiser, that the 2024 Silver Kennedy PR70 is likely going to be a desired slab given the quality issues.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Major D,

I did give that a bit of thought but simply couldn’t bring myself to justify keeping those sets with the hope that something would come of just one coin in each, primarily because I don’t get coins graded and/or slabbed, which in itself is likely due to the same rationale as insisting on crank windows for my car and a flip phone in my pocket.

DAVESWFL

My take is that the mint is just another governmental agency – implying that the only real interest is in increasing their budget and planning without ever considering the worst case scenario. When it happens, the attitude is “whoever could have seen that coming?”. Circumstances beyond our control. And of course, NO ONE IS EVER HELD RESPONSIBLE!
Also, my guess would be that all those unsold AI dollars are tucked away in some Federal Reserve vault.

Kaiser Wilhelm

DAVESWFL,

In a nutshell, exactly so, without question, nail on the head, bingo and bullseye. Kudos!

Rick

The Mint is another Governmental agency Dave, that is not debatable. Just one of the many failed agencies over there in DC. Seldom does one get fired from any .gov agency. To those that think that the Mint is self-sufficient financially, think again.. On the subject of vaults? Let’s not forget the 70 million Kennedy halves, and the 4.5 million Native American Dollars that were struck and “intended for circulation” for 2023 & ’24..Yes, take many thousands out of those above numbers for mint rolls & sets… Where’s the rest of those literal millions of “circulation coins” I mention? Raise… Read more »

Major D

Rick, I’ve seen no proof that these pallets actually exist for any of the AI$. If you want to argue that the Mint’s FY reports are bogus go right ahead. But on paper, and as audited (allegedly) the FY23 report shows the Mint made a total of 397.3 million in net income and seigniorage:

Circulating Coins: $249 million
Bullion: 69.2 million
Numismatic: 249.0 million

Past FY reports show even more net income and seigniorage.

I’ve railed against the Mint myself on certain things, but c’mon everyone- let’s actually be educated about this, and the economics.

Rick

It’s interesting in the way that you spin, and completely ignore my point in regards to how the Mint earns “net income and seigniorage”. The annual report is completely transparent and is most certainly not bogus. I never said anything was bogus about the report. I said “To those that think that the Mint is self-sufficient financially, think again..”..In other words-you, me, and the Fed pay their wages. You also ignored my statement regarding the 10s of millions of circulating coins that were purchased by the Fed and never circulated(Kennedy & NA) over the last 1-2 years. Where are they?… Read more »

Major D

Rick, I’m not spinning a damn thing. That photo could be prez dollars or kennedy halves, or anything else. It is not proof of AI$. I do, however know how to read a financial report. The Fed is not paying Mint wages in the way you think. The Mint makes coins that the Fed buys. Just as the Corn Flakes you buy pay the Kellogg Company wages. But the Mint is given orders to produce circulating coins. If you think the report isn’t bogus, then the Mint is self-sufficient. It makes a profit across all three divisions: Circulating, Bullion and… Read more »

Last edited 4 months ago by Major D
Rick

Lol…Was it something I said? I’m sorry if you’re mad at me, I totally get it. No one said that the the bags were any proof coins of any kind lol. 1) You and I buy bullion and numismatic coins from the Mint either directly or indirectly. 2) The Fed orders(buys) circulating coins from the Mint and stores millions of them somewhere. It’s a nice boost their revenue by millions of dollars. A balance sheet bailout. End of story. #1 and #2 above means this… We, as Taxpayers Pay the Mint’s Wages through ever increasing premiums, just like we pay… Read more »

Kaiser Wilhelm

Rick and Major D, As I’ve been following your discussion as to whether the US Mint is self-sufficient and who might a Mint “bailout” be coming from, which in that scenario would be the Federal Reserve, it comes to mind that it is indeed the Federal Reserve that is simultaneously neither Federal nor self-supporting in any plausible way. Whatever situation the Mint may be in when it comes to taxpayer support, it is the Federal Reserve which while it may or may not be the Mint’s ennabler is itself one of the biggest tax revenue vacuums in these here United… Read more »

CaliSkier

Major D says: “I’ve railed against the Mint myself on certain things, but c’mon everyone- let’s actually be educated about this, and the economics” I will try hard to not repost all the close to 8 hours of non stop rants I posted on Mint News Blog in May of last year.(probably 10+(?), actual 22! Haha KPMG related posts) regarding the US Mint Annual Reports and the auditing of said reports. You might just want to get educated about and fully familiarize yourself with the US Mint audit company, KPMG, if not already up to speed? Let me know if… Read more »

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CaliSkier

My KPMG introduction and impetus for a serious “deep dive” last year(MNB), began with the following: “Transparency or lack thereof at the US Mint. 2023 Kennedy halves. CaliSkier says(reply to IJTR) MAY 12, 2023 AT 1:01 PM IJTR says: “If there are going to be millions shipped to the banks, that fact should be disclosed in advance of the collector coin release date.” LOL Thanks for the comic relief(IJTR)! Yeah, the Mint will get right on that! LOL Wait, I’m sorry for laughing, the US Mint has really been super, up front, honest, accurate, timely, forthcoming as well as transparent… Read more »

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CaliSkier

6 1/2 hours and 15 posts later I wrote: “CaliSkier says MAY 12, 2023 AT 7:29 PM Cag, since none of this numbers stuff dazes you, can you please explain the benefit and to what purpose KPMG, serves the US Mint? Because after reading the Annual Report and what it is they are doing or performing for the US Mint, this appears to be just a simple “check the box” we did it, type exercise in futility? Meaning the outside audit is performed, due to regulation, however nothing gets reported; fixed, altered, improved; etc, etc, etc??? The best checks and… Read more »

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CaliSkier

I’ll leave you with this one for now Major D: “CaliSkier says MAY 12, 2023 AT 7:37 PM Probably, didn’t test any internal controls? “United States Mint’s internal control. We did not test all internal controls relevant to operating objectives as broadly defined by the Federal Managers’ Financial Integrity Act of 1982.
A deficiency in internal control exists when the design or operation of a control does not allow management or employees, in the normal course of performing their assigned functions, to prevent, or detect and correct, misstatements on a timely basis. A material weakness is a deficiency, or a combination… Read more »

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Rick

Cali good luck with getting so much as to even an acknowledgment from Major D on the 10’s of Millions of 2023 circulating Kennedy’s bought from the Fed that are now missing…
I tried at least twice and I was ignored…Major D here’s your chance?

That spin from the “United States Mint’s internal control” is a good one I’ll admit..
How many times do they say weaknesses, deficiencies, and compliance–Quickly now! Don’t peek!

However, spin is an interesting function we’re all guilty of from time to time……..

c_q

if the mint wasn’t required by law to make all those pennies, they wouldn’t have to get so desperate with all the overpricing and shenanigans on the collector side to try to make up for the immense losses from making pennies that barely circulate.

Rick

Same thing with the nickel(cupronickel), 75% copper & 25% nickel.
Every one of them go into the jar and never spent. Maybe it’s just me, but I consider those nickels to be a semi-precious coin anymore. Gresham’s Law. The madness will at some point come to an end with those 5C and 1C coins imo.

DaveSWFL

Well, at least Canada got SOMETHING right! Their elimination of the Canadian cent was a brilliant move.
And the world didn’t even end!

Major D

DaveSWFL, I’d add that even today 12 years after it was discontinued you still have Canadian 1c in circulation as they’re still legal tender in Canada. But bad news for hoarders of US copper, 12 years out and it’s still illegal in Canada to melt them. So, if the US followed suit and eliminated the Lincoln cent tomorrow, melting will likely not be permitted in the US for at least another 12 years. Legal melting will not happen in my lifetime.

Rick

And I will now proudly say this, and take note everyone…
I agree with you Major D!!
Not only would melting down US coinage be illegal, but entirely stupid imo…
Why? Because you can trade those coins for well over face value due to their metal content whether it be Gold, Silver, or Copper. Don’t be a fool and melt any coins.
1) Pre-’65 Washington Quarter = 20x face value all day.
2) Pre-’83 Lincoln Cent = 5x face value all day.
3) USM Nickels = Composition change/cancellation pending…
https://www.ebay.com/itm/196476718692

John Q. Coinage

They’re melting & selling the copper streetlight wires here. Nobody cares, u need a smelter and make copper bars! Or just drink Kopper Whiskey. I have a bunch of these love to melt, and Rick I found an old Rx tune w 40 war nickels, kinda kool the War 5c

Kaiser Wilhelm

John Q. Coinage,

It takes two to tango, so I would say the people who are willing and ready to buy the obviously stolen copper wire are just as much crooks as those who provide it to them.

Christo

Exactly. And while we are on the subject of copper, in a SHTF scenario, insulated copper wire, tube and pipe will be far more valuble then copper rounds or bars. Buying them in such a useless form to be a “barter” item or an investment is nothing but a scam. Further, most of the YouTube ‘stacking’ channels pushing some of these products are now just a political arms of on-line precious metal retailers.

Major D

c_q, those pennies have absolutely nothing to do with numismatic pricing. As it is, the dimes, quarters and half-dollars more than make up for the cent and nickel losses. Here it is again, $249.0 million made in seigniorage in FY23…

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East Coast Guru

Well I am officially out of the mints fun house party. Drop my subscriptions and I feel pretty good about it. If I need them in a few years, I’ll find them and they won’t be tough to locate.

John Q. Coinage

Welcome ECG I fired the USM back in ‘22…

Kaiser Wilhelm

John Q. Coinage,

In order to fire someone they have to work for you in the first place. It seems to be the case that the Mint has never worked for us. 😉

CaliSkier

Between earlier today and this evenings World Market, PM’s are suffering a bit of a “beat down”! Almost as if all PM’s had been placed into a burlap sack together, additional weight added, tied off and thrown into a large body of water? Right Kaiser?

Last edited 4 months ago by CaliSkier
Kaiser Wilhelm

CaliSkier,

That would most definitely appear to be the case, my friend. I might guess that the precious metal shorting crowd at the Commodities Exchange has begun fitting those various shining beauties with the proverbial cement overshoes.
Attention Lakes Michigan and Superior: Now adding to Davy Jone’s Locker!

Last edited 4 months ago by Kaiser Wilhelm
Rich

Not to mention Comex option expiration for gold and silver today (7/25/2024).

Kaiser Wilhelm

Rich,

Forgive my ignorance but I have no idea what that means. Please explain.