Buying activity picked up a bit for U.S. Mint numismatic coins, with 80 products showing higher sales compared to the previous week, up from 56 in the prior report.
Meanwhile, in their first full week of sales, Innovation dollars for Missouri posted sharp advances, supported by triple- and quadruple-digit gains in sales of the bags. In their debut, four-day sales of Missouri dollars in rolls and bags combined reached 720,850 coins. Over the next week, they jumped by 148,025 to 868,875 coins.
Sales Fall Again for the 2024 Silver Proof Set
Elsewhere of note, 12 products recorded negative weekly sales, compared to 2 in the previous report. Three of them registered significant declines: the 2024-P Uncirculated Morgan Silver Dollar (-1,419), the 2024-P Uncirculated Peace Silver Dollar (-1,538), and the 2024 Silver Proof Set (-3,743).
The 2024 Silver Proof Set’s decline was its second consecutive, dropping by 10,514 previously. With its streak of two weekly declines, the set’s sales now stand at 136,622. It was released on June 27 for $130, and had achieved 4-day opening sales of 143,765. The set’s price increased by $20 to $150 on July 9, along with other silver products that rose by different amounts.
U.S. Mint Top Sellers
Here is the roster of the U.S. Mint’s most sought-after numismatic products for the week ending on July 28:
- 2024 Proof Set (+2,497 to 246,403)
- 2024-P Missouri American Innovation 100-Coin Bags (+1,155 to 3,099)
- 2024-W Proof Silver Eagle (+763 to 267,057)
- 2024-W Uncirculated Silver Eagle (+751 to 89,212)
- 2024-W $50 American Gold Buffalo Proof Coin (+521 to 6,675)
- 2023 Mint Set (+379 to 181,690)
- 2023-S Proof Morgan Silver Dollar (+375 to 358,124)
- 2024-D Missouri American Innovation 100-Coin Bags (+258 to 2,128)
- 2023-S Proof Peace Silver Dollar (+256 to 324,691)
- 2024 Kennedy Two-Roll Sets (+201 to 26,069)
In its latest report, the U.S. Mint published sales data for 472 numismatic products. Two products experienced week-over-week increases of more than 1,000 units, compared to 3 in the prior report.
US Mint Sales: Numismatic Products
Below are tables showing the latest available sales for U.S. Mint numismatic products. The sales period covers from July 22 to July 28. Products with an asterisk (*) are no longer available or had no reported sales.
2024 Commemorative Coins |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| 2024-S Proof Greatest Generation Half Dollar | 16,895 | 16,965 | 70 | 0.41% |
| 2024-D Uncirculated Greatest Generation Half Dollar | 7,241 | 7,252 | 11 | 0.15% |
| 2024-P Proof Greatest Generation Silver Dollar | 28,542 | 28,686 | 144 | 0.50% |
| 2024-P Uncirculated Greatest Generation Silver Dollar | 9,716 | 9,729 | 13 | 0.13% |
| 2024-W Proof Greatest Generation $5 Gold Coin | 1,423 | 1,425 | 2 | 0.14% |
| 2024-W Uncirculated Greatest Generation $5 Gold Coin | 1,107 | 1,109 | 2 | 0.18% |
| 2024 Greatest Generation Three-Coin Proof Set | 4,157 | 4,172 | 15 | 0.36% |
| 2024-S Proof Harriet Tubman Half Dollar | 11,129 | 11,231 | 102 | 0.92% |
| 2024-D Uncirculated Harriet Tubman Half Dollar | 5,755 | 5,776 | 21 | 0.36% |
| 2024-P Proof Harriet Tubman Silver Dollar | 18,922 | 19,099 | 177 | 0.94% |
| 2024-P Uncirculated Harriet Tubman Silver Dollar | 6,561 | 6,592 | 31 | 0.47% |
| 2024-W Proof Harriet Tubman $5 Gold Coin | 1,423 | 1,436 | 13 | 0.91% |
| 2024-W Uncirculated Harriet Tubman $5 Gold Coin | 1,152 | 1,156 | 4 | 0.35% |
| 2024 Harriet Tubman Three-Coin Proof Set | 3,928 | 3,958 | 30 | 0.76% |
Morgan & Peace Silver Dollars |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| 2024-P Uncirculated Morgan Silver Dollar | 173,614 | 172,195 | -1,419 | -0.82% |
| 2024-P Uncirculated Morgan Silver Dollar (40 – Bulk) | 308 | 316 | 8 | 2.60% |
| 2024-P Uncirculated Peace Silver Dollar | 166,541 | 165,003 | -1,538 | -0.92% |
| 2024-P Uncirculated Peace Silver Dollar (40 – Bulk) | 294 | 309 | 15 | 5.10% |
| 2023-S Morgan & Peace Silver Dollar Reverse Proof Set | 247,755 | 247,820 | 65 | 0.03% |
| 2023-S Proof Morgan Silver Dollar | 357,749 | 358,124 | 375 | 0.10% |
| 2023-S Proof Morgan Silver Dollar (Bulk – 40 Coins) | 443 | 443 | – | – |
| 2023-S Proof Peace Silver Dollar | 324,435 | 324,691 | 256 | 0.08% |
| 2023-S Proof Peace Silver Dollar (Bulk – 40 Coins) | 438 | 438 | – | – |
| 2023-P Uncirculated Morgan Silver Dollar | 260,527 | 260,527 | – | – |
| 2023-P Uncirculated Morgan Silver Dollar (40 – Bulk) | 330 | 330 | – | – |
| 2023-P Uncirculated Peace Silver Dollar | 260,450 | 260,450 | – | – |
| 2023-P Uncirculated Peace Silver Dollar (40 – Bulk) | 338 | 338 | – | – |
2024 Liberty & Britannia |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| 2024-W Liberty & Britannia Gold Coin | 5,539 | 5,539 | – | – |
| 2024-P Liberty & Britannia Silver Medal | 32,904 | 32,980 | 76 | 0.23% |
Armed Forces Silver Medals |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| U.S. Army 2.5 Ounce Silver Medal | 9,988 | 9,988 | – | – |
| U.S. Marine Corps 2.5 Ounce Silver Medal | 9,988 | 9,988 | – | – |
| U.S. Navy 2.5 Ounce Silver Medal | 9,987 | 9,987 | – | – |
| U.S. Coast Guard 2.5 Ounce Silver Medal | 9,955 | 9,955 | – | – |
| U.S. Air Force 2.5 Ounce Silver Medal | 9,953 | 9,953 | – | – |
| U.S. Army 1 Ounce Silver Medal | 16,174 | 16,254 | 80 | 0.49% |
| U.S. Marine Corps 1 Ounce Silver Medal | 20,165 | 20,240 | 75 | 0.37% |
| U.S. Navy 1 Ounce Silver Medal | 22,141 | 22,185 | 44 | 0.20% |
| U.S. Coast Guard 1 Ounce Silver Medal | 18,495 | 18,514 | 19 | 0.10% |
| U.S. Air Force 1 Ounce Silver Medal | 21,631 | 21,651 | 20 | 0.09% |
American Liberty Products |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| 2023-W $100 American Liberty Gold Coin | 12,199 | 12,200 | 1 | 0.01% |
| 2023-P American Liberty Silver Medal | 33,209 | 33,270 | 61 | 0.18% |
| 2022-P American Liberty Silver Medal | 74,400 | 74,406 | 6 | 0.01% |
| 2021-W $100 American Liberty Gold Coin | 12,471 | 12,471 | – | – |
| 2019-W $100 American Liberty Gold Coin | 24,609 | 24,609 | – | – |
| 2019-P American Liberty Silver Medal | 44,928 | 44,928 | – | – |
| 2018-W $10 American Liberty Gold Coin | 59,720 | 59,723 | 3 | 0.01% |
| 2017 American Liberty Silver Four-Medal Set* | 32,647 | 32,647 | – | – |
| 2017-S Enhanced Uncirculated Coin Set* | 210,419 | 210,419 | – | – |
| 2017-W $100 American Liberty Gold Coin | 39,248 | 39,248 | – | – |
| 2017-P Proof American Liberty Silver Medal* | 55,187 | 55,187 | – | – |
Clad Proof Sets |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| 2024 Proof Set | 243,906 | 246,403 | 2,497 | 1.02% |
| 2023 Proof Set* | 369,147 | 369,165 | 18 | 0.00% |
| 2022 Proof Set* | 400,016 | 400,016 | – | – |
| 2021 Proof Set* | 512,866 | 512,866 | – | – |
| 2020 Proof Set* | 464,730 | 464,730 | – | – |
| 2019 Proof Set* | 601,364 | 601,364 | – | – |
| 2018 Proof Set* | 517,081 | 517,081 | – | – |
| 2017 Proof Set* | 568,678 | 568,678 | – | – |
| 2023 American Innovation Dollars Proof Set | 56,455 | 56,557 | 102 | 0.18% |
| 2022 American Innovation Dollars Proof Set | 81,052 | 81,127 | 75 | 0.09% |
| 2021 American Innovation Dollars Proof Set | 86,485 | 86,539 | 54 | 0.06% |
| 2020 American Innovation Dollars Proof Set | 107,067 | 107,067 | – | – |
| 2019 American Innovation Dollars Proof Set | 148,558 | 148,564 | 6 | 0.00% |
| 2024 American Women Quarters Proof Set | 38,854 | 39,040 | 186 | 0.48% |
| 2023 American Women Quarters Proof Set | 56,882 | 56,937 | 55 | 0.10% |
| 2022 American Women Quarters Proof Set* | 42,821 | 42,821 | – | – |
| 2020 America the Beautiful Quarters Proof Set* | 64,242 | 64,242 | – | – |
| 2019 America the Beautiful Quarters Proof Set | 84,697 | 84,697 | – | – |
| 2018 America the Beautiful Quarters Proof Set* | 86,697 | 86,697 | – | – |
Silver Proof Sets |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| 2024 Silver Proof Set | 140,365 | 136,622 | -3,743 | -2.67% |
| 2023 Silver Proof Set | 193,910 | 194,009 | 99 | 0.05% |
| 2022 Silver Proof Set* | 249,349 | 249,355 | 6 | 0.00% |
| 2021 Silver Proof Set* | 303,796 | 303,798 | 2 | 0.00% |
| 2020 Silver Proof Set* | 313,183 | 313,183 | – | – |
| 2019 Silver Proof Set* | 413,890 | 413,890 | – | – |
| 2018 Silver Proof Set* | 332,274 | 332,274 | – | – |
| 2018 Silver Reverse Proof Set* | 199,116 | 199,116 | – | – |
| 2024 American Women Quarters Silver Proof Set | 31,885 | 31,946 | 61 | 0.19% |
| 2023 American Women Quarters Silver Proof Set | 45,409 | 45,436 | 27 | 0.06% |
| 2022 American Women Quarters Silver Proof Set | 57,717 | 57,718 | 1 | 0.00% |
| 2020 America the Beautiful Quarters Silver Proof Set* | 64,012 | 64,012 | – | – |
| 2019 America the Beautiful Quarters Silver Proof Set* | 78,588 | 78,588 | – | – |
| 2018 America the Beautiful Quarters Silver Proof Set* | 79,301 | 79,301 | – | – |
| 2024 Congratulations Gift Set | 24,493 | 24,559 | 66 | 0.27% |
| 2023 Congratulations Gift Set | 39,278 | 39,280 | 2 | 0.01% |
| 2022 Congratulations Gift Set | 29,710 | 29,710 | – | – |
| 2021 Congratulations Gift Set* | 39,997 | 39,997 | – | – |
| 2020 Congratulations Gift Set* | 24,468 | 24,468 | – | – |
| 2019 Congratulations Gift Set* | 31,638 | 31,638 | – | – |
| 2023 Limited Edition Silver Proof Set | 26,849 | 26,897 | 48 | 0.18% |
| 2022 Limited Edition Silver Proof Set | 49,724 | 49,724 | – | – |
| 2021 Limited Edition Silver Proof Set | 49,852 | 49,852 | – | – |
| 2020 Limited Edition Silver Proof Set* | 50,061 | 50,061 | – | – |
US Mint Uncirculated Sets |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| 2023 Uncirculated Mint Set | 181,311 | 181,690 | 379 | 0.21% |
| 2022 Uncirculated Mint Set | 249,995 | 249,992 | -3 | 0.00% |
| 2021 Uncirculated Mint Set | 230,756 | 230,832 | 76 | 0.03% |
| 2020 Uncirculated Mint Set* | 211,787 | 211,787 | – | – |
| 2019 Uncirculated Mint Set* | 346,117 | 346,117 | – | – |
| 2018 Uncirculated Mint Set* | 257,536 | 257,536 | – | – |
| 2017 Uncirculated Mint Set* | 286,813 | 286,813 | – | – |
Kids Coin Sets |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| 2019 Youth Coin and Currency Set | 24,890 | 24,888 | -2 | -0.01% |
| 2019 Explore and Discover Coin Set | 44,496 | 44,515 | 19 | 0.04% |
| 2019 Rocketship* | 49,921 | 49,921 | – | – |
| 2014 Coin Discovery Set* | 13,151 | 13,151 | – | – |
Ornaments |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| 2023 U.S. Mint Ornament | 5,053 | 5,056 | 3 | 0.06% |
| 2023 Mighty Minters Ornament | 3,068 | 3,068 | – | – |
| 2022 U.S. Mint Ornament | 5,780 | 5,782 | 2 | 0.03% |
| 2022 Mighty Minters Ornament | 4,123 | 4,123 | – | – |
| 2023 Bessie Coleman Ornament | 1,252 | 1,260 | 8 | 0.64% |
| 2023 Edith Kanakaʻole Ornament; | 1,426 | 1,429 | 3 | 0.21% |
| 2023 Eleanor Roosevelt Ornament | 1,729 | 1,743 | 14 | 0.81% |
| 2023 Jovita Idar Ornament | 1,264 | 1,268 | 4 | 0.32% |
| 2023 Maria Tallchief Ornament | 1,484 | 1,491 | 7 | 0.47% |
| 2022 Maya Angelou Ornament | 3,315 | 3,319 | 4 | 0.12% |
| 2022 Dr. Sally Ride Ornament | 3,409 | 3,418 | 9 | 0.26% |
| 2022 Wilma Mankiller Ornament | 2,347 | 2,347 | – | – |
| 2022 Nina Otero-Warren Ornament | 1,829 | 1,830 | 1 | 0.05% |
| 2022 Anna May Wong Ornament | 3,278 | 3,279 | 1 | 0.03% |
| 2021 Mighty Minters Ornament | 4,821 | 4,821 | – | – |
| 2021 U.S. Mint Ornament | 7,969 | 7,969 | – | – |
| 2020 Mighty Minters Ornament | 4,582 | 4,584 | 2 | 0.04% |
| 2020 U.S. Mint Ornament | 6,711 | 6,712 | 1 | 0.01% |
| 2019 Mighty Minters Ornament | 7,105 | 7,105 | – | – |
| 2019 U.S. Mint Ornament | 11,984 | 11,982 | -2 | -0.02% |
Proof & Reverse Proof Silver Eagles |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| 2024-W Proof Silver Eagle | 266,294 | 267,057 | 763 | 0.29% |
| 2024-W Proof Silver Eagle (Bulk – 40 Coins) | 1,463 | 1,463 | – | – |
| 2023-S Proof Silver Eagle | 181,393 | 181,460 | 67 | 0.04% |
| 2023-S Proof Silver Eagle (Bulk – 40 Coins) | 743 | 743 | – | – |
| 2022-S Proof Silver Eagle | 199,698 | 199,698 | – | – |
| 2022-S Proof Silver Eagle (Bulk – 40 Coins) | 2,925 | 2,925 | – | – |
| 2023-W Proof Silver Eagle | 436,487 | 436,490 | 3 | 0.00% |
| 2023-W Proof Silver Eagle (Bulk – 40 Coins) | 2,118 | 2,118 | – | – |
| 2022-W Proof Silver Eagle | 496,994 | 496,994 | – | – |
| 2022-W Proof Silver Eagle (Bulk – 40 Coins) | 4,171 | 4,171 | – | – |
| 2021 Reverse Proof American Silver Eagle Two-Coin Set* | 124,924 | 124,924 | – | – |
| 2021-S Proof Silver Eagle, Type 2* | 199,748 | 199,748 | – | – |
| 2021-S Proof Silver Eagle, Type 2 (Bulk – 40 Coins)* | 652 | 652 | – | – |
| 2021-W Proof Silver Eagle, Type 2* | 300,096 | 300,096 | – | – |
| 2021-W Proof Silver Eagle, Type 2 (Bulk – 40 Coins)* | 2,142 | 2,142 | – | – |
| 2021-W Proof Silver Eagle, Type 1* | 299,911 | 299,911 | – | – |
| 2021-W Proof Silver Eagle, Type 1 (Bulk – 40 Coins)* | 686 | 686 | – | – |
Uncirculated Silver Eagles |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| 2024 | 88,461 | 89,212 | 751 | 0.85% |
| 2023 | 138,880 | 138,915 | 35 | 0.03% |
| 2022 | 164,602 | 164,602 | – | – |
| 2022 Bulk 40 | 989 | 989 | – | – |
| 2021* | 174,958 | 174,958 | – | – |
| 2021 Bulk 40* | 324 | 324 | – | – |
2024 Proof American Eagle Gold Coins |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| 1 oz | 2,628 | 2,665 | 37 | 1.41% |
| 1/2 oz | 1,300 | 1,317 | 17 | 1.31% |
| 1/4 oz | 4,402 | 4,443 | 41 | 0.93% |
| 1/10 oz | 6,574 | 6,665 | 91 | 1.38% |
| 4-Coin Set | 4,203 | 4,214 | 11 | 0.26% |
2023 Proof American Eagle Gold Coins |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| 1 oz | 6,474 | 6,476 | 2 | 0.03% |
| 1/2 oz | 2,011 | 2,011 | – | – |
| 1/4 oz | 4,492 | 4,492 | – | – |
| 1/10 oz | 13,424 | 13,424 | – | – |
| 4-Coin Set | 9,977 | 9,978 | 1 | 0.01% |
2022 Proof American Eagle Gold Coins |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| 1 oz | 5,913 | 5,913 | – | – |
| 1/2 oz | 1,970 | 1,970 | – | – |
| 1/4 oz | 4,464 | 4,464 | – | – |
| 1/10 oz | 13,806 | 13,806 | – | – |
| 4-Coin Set | 9,906 | 9,906 | – | – |
Uncirculated American Eagle Gold Coins |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| 2024 | 2,332 | 2,357 | 25 | 1.07% |
| 2023 | 6,450 | 6,457 | 7 | 0.11% |
| 2022 | 8,857 | 8,857 | – | – |
| 2021* | 8,964 | 8,964 | – | – |
| 2020* | 6,284 | 6,284 | – | – |
| 2019* | 5,851 | 5,851 | – | – |
Proof American Buffalo Gold Coins |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| 2024 Proof Gold Buffalo | 6,154 | 6,675 | 521 | 8.47% |
| 2023 Proof Gold Buffalo | 15,608 | 15,623 | 15 | 0.10% |
| 2022 Proof Gold Buffalo | 15,944 | 15,944 | – | – |
| 2021 Proof Gold Buffalo* | 16,969 | 16,969 | – | – |
| 2020 Proof Gold Buffalo* | 11,887 | 11,887 | – | – |
| 2019 Proof Gold Buffalo* | 14,844 | 14,844 | – | – |
Barbara Bush First Spouse Gold Coins |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| 2020-W Proof | 2,968 | 2,968 | – | – |
| 2020-W Uncirculated | 1,967 | 1,967 | – | – |
Proof American Platinum Eagle |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| 2024 | 4,699 | 4,706 | 7 | 0.15% |
| 2023 | 8,378 | 8,381 | 3 | 0.04% |
| 2022 | 9,941 | 9,941 | – | – |
| 2021 | 9,884 | 9,884 | – | – |
| 2020 | 9,835 | 9,835 | – | – |
| 2019 | 11,268 | 11,268 | – | – |
| 2018 | 16,172 | 16,172 | – | – |
| 2017* | 8,890 | 8,890 | – | – |
American Palladium Eagle |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| 2023-W Uncirculated | 5,492 | 5,500 | 8 | 0.15% |
| 2022-W Reverse Proof | 7,374 | 7,391 | 17 | 0.23% |
| 2021-W Proof | 5,170 | 5,170 | – | – |
| 2020-W Uncirculated | 9,746 | 9,746 | – | – |
| 2019-W Reverse Proof | 18,839 | 18,839 | – | – |
| 2018-W Proof* | 14,986 | 14,986 | – | – |
Presidential Silver Medals |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| 2024 James A. Garfield Presidential Silver Medal | 11,293 | 11,312 | 19 | 0.17% |
| 2024 Rutherford B. Hayes Presidential Silver Medal | 11,583 | 11,592 | 9 | 0.08% |
| 2023 Ulysses S. Grant Presidential Silver Medal | 13,583 | 13,591 | 8 | 0.06% |
| 2023 Andrew Johnson Presidential Silver Medal | 12,620 | 12,623 | 3 | 0.02% |
| 2023 Abraham Lincoln Presidential Silver Medal | 19,286 | 19,311 | 25 | 0.13% |
| 2023 James Buchanan Presidential Silver Medal | 12,433 | 12,434 | 1 | 0.01% |
| 2021 Franklin Pierce Presidential Silver Medal | 12,662 | 12,663 | 1 | 0.01% |
| 2022 Millard Fillmore Presidential Silver Medal | 12,769 | 12,772 | 3 | 0.02% |
| 2022 Zachary Taylor Presidential Silver Medal | 13,162 | 13,164 | 2 | 0.02% |
| 2022 James Knox Polk Presidential Silver Medal | 13,404 | 13,407 | 3 | 0.02% |
| 2021 John Tyler Presidential Silver Medal | 13,788 | 13,793 | 5 | 0.04% |
| 2021 William Henry Harrison Presidential Silver Medal | 13,753 | 13,754 | 1 | 0.01% |
| 2021 Martin Van Buren Presidential Silver Medal | 13,887 | 13,889 | 2 | 0.01% |
| 2020 Andrew Jackson Presidential Silver Medal | 16,822 | 16,823 | 1 | 0.01% |
| 2019 John Quincy Adams Presidential Silver Medal | 14,964 | 14,966 | 2 | 0.01% |
| 2019 James Monroe Presidential Silver Medal | 15,427 | 15,429 | 2 | 0.01% |
| 2019 James Madison Presidential Silver Medal | 17,076 | 17,073 | -3 | -0.02% |
| 2019 Thomas Jefferson Presidential Silver Medal | 24,532 | 24,539 | 7 | 0.03% |
| 2018 George Washington Presidential Silver Medal | 35,641 | 35,652 | 11 | 0.03% |
| 2018 John Adams Presidential Silver Medal | 23,831 | 23,833 | 2 | 0.01% |
American Innovation Reverse Proof Sets |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| 2023 | 38,292 | 38,369 | 77 | 0.20% |
| 2022 | 49,711 | 49,718 | 7 | 0.01% |
| 2021 | 49,604 | 49,604 | – | – |
2024 American Innovation Dollars – Missouri |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| 25-coin roll set (P) | 7,100 | 7,240 | 140 | 1.97% |
| 25-coin roll set (D) | 6,478 | 6,607 | 129 | 1.99% |
| 100-coin bag (P) | 1,944 | 3,099 | 1,155 | 59.41% |
| 100-coin bag (D) | 1,870 | 2,128 | 258 | 13.80% |
2024 American Innovation Dollars – Maine |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| 25-coin roll set (P) | 7,651 | 7,673 | 22 | 0.29% |
| 25-coin roll set (D) | 6,687 | 6,726 | 39 | 0.58% |
| 100-coin bag (P) | 2,516 | 2,526 | 10 | 0.40% |
| 100-coin bag (D) | 1,924 | 1,931 | 7 | 0.36% |
2024 American Innovation Dollars – Alabama |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| 25-coin roll set (P) | 8,384 | 8,380 | -4 | -0.05% |
| 25-coin roll set (D) | 7,434 | 7,441 | 7 | 0.09% |
| 100-coin bag (P) | 3,149 | 3,149 | – | – |
| 100-coin bag (D) | 2,943 | 2,944 | 1 | 0.03% |
2024 American Innovation Dollars – Illinois |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| 25-coin roll set (P) | 7,789 | 7,814 | 25 | 0.32% |
| 25-coin roll set (D) | 7,179 | 7,213 | 34 | 0.47% |
| 100-coin bag (P) | 1,972 | 1,983 | 11 | 0.56% |
| 100-coin bag (D) | 1,987 | 1,994 | 7 | 0.35% |
2023 American Innovation Dollars – Mississippi |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| 25-coin roll set (P) | 7,947 | 7,951 | 4 | 0.05% |
| 25-coin roll set (D) | 6,881 | 6,882 | 1 | 0.01% |
| 100-coin bag (P) | 2,254 | 2,259 | 5 | 0.22% |
| 100-coin bag (D) | 2,294 | 2,297 | 3 | 0.13% |
2023 American Innovation Dollars – Indiana |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| 25-coin roll set (P) | 8,034 | 8,033 | -1 | -0.01% |
| 25-coin roll set (D) | 6,994 | 6,994 | – | – |
| 100-coin bag (P) | 3,007 | 3,007 | – | – |
| 100-coin bag (D) | 2,793 | 2,794 | 1 | 0.04% |
2023 American Innovation Dollars – Louisiana |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| 25-coin roll set (P) | 8,000 | 7,990 | -10 | -0.13% |
| 25-coin roll set (D) | 6,990 | 6,990 | – | – |
| 100-coin bag (P) | 2,916 | 2,929 | 13 | 0.45% |
| 100-coin bag (D) | 2,750 | 2,751 | 1 | 0.04% |
2023 American Innovation Dollars – Ohio |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| 25-coin roll set (P) | 8,016 | 8,016 | – | – |
| 25-coin roll set (D) | 6,978 | 6,978 | – | – |
| 100-coin bag (P) | 2,963 | 2,963 | – | – |
| 100-coin bag (D) | 2,740 | 2,741 | 1 | 0.04% |
2022 American Innovation Dollars – Tennessee |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
%
Increase |
|
| 25-coin roll set (P) | 7,014 | 7,014 | – | – |
| 25-coin roll set (D) | 7,010 | 7,010 | – | – |
| 100-coin bag (P) | 2,781 | 2,781 | – | – |
| 100-coin bag (D) | 2,786 | 2,786 | – | – |
2022 American Innovation Dollars – Kentucky |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| 25-coin roll set (P) | 7,009 | 7,009 | – | – |
| 25-coin roll set (D) | 6,997 | 6,998 | 1 | 0.01% |
| 100-coin bag (P) | 2,771 | 2,771 | – | – |
| 100-coin bag (D) | 2,779 | 2,779 | – | – |
2022 American Innovation Dollars – Vermont |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| 25-coin roll set (P) | 7,023 | 7,023 | – | – |
| 25-coin roll set (D) | 7,011 | 7,011 | – | – |
| 100-coin bag (P) | 2,787 | 2,787 | – | – |
| 100-coin bag (D) | 2,778 | 2,778 | – | – |
2022 American Innovation Dollars – Rhode Island |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| 25-coin roll set (P) | 7,010 | 7,010 | – | – |
| 25-coin roll set (D) | 7,007 | 7,007 | – | – |
| 100-coin bag (P) | 2,789 | 2,789 | – | – |
| 100-coin bag (D) | 2,787 | 2,787 | – | – |
2021 American Innovation Dollars – North Carolina |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| 25-coin roll set (P) | 7,010 | 7,010 | – | – |
| 25-coin roll set (D) | 7,018 | 7,018 | – | – |
| 100-coin bag (P) | 2,789 | 2,789 | – | – |
| 100-coin bag (D) | 2,790 | 2,790 | – | – |
2021 American Innovation Dollars – New York |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| 25-coin roll set (P) | 7,006 | 7,006 | – | – |
| 25-coin roll set (D) | 7,013 | 7,013 | – | – |
| 100-coin bag (P) | 2,786 | 2,786 | – | – |
| 100-coin bag (D) | 2,785 | 2,785 | – | – |
2021 American Innovation Dollars – Virginia |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| 25-coin roll set (P) | 7,015 | 7,015 | – | – |
| 25-coin roll set (D) | 7,010 | 7,010 | – | – |
| 100-coin bag (P) | 2,796 | 2,796 | – | – |
| 100-coin bag (D) | 2,786 | 2,786 | – | – |
2021 American Innovation Dollars – New Hampshire |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| 25-coin roll set (P) | 7,017 | 7,017 | – | – |
| 25-coin roll set (D) | 7,017 | 7,017 | – | – |
| 100-coin bag (P) | 2,789 | 2,789 | – | – |
| 100-coin bag (D) | 2,790 | 2,790 | – | – |
2020 American Innovation Dollars – South Carolina |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| Reverse Proof (S) | 41,674 | 41,676 | 2 | 0.00% |
| 25-coin roll set (P) | 6,378 | 6,378 | – | – |
| 25-coin roll set (D) | 6,399 | 6,399 | – | – |
| 100-coin bag (P) | 2,734 | 2,734 | – | – |
| 100-coin bag (D) | 2,378 | 2,378 | – | – |
2020 American Innovation Dollars – Maryland |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| Reverse Proof (S) | 49,794 | 49,794 | – | – |
| 25-coin roll set (P) | 6,493 | 6,493 | – | – |
| 25-coin roll set (D) | 6,471 | 6,471 | – | – |
| 100-coin bag (P) | 2,725 | 2,725 | – | – |
| 100-coin bag (D) | 2,737 | 2,737 | – | – |
2020 American Innovation Dollars – Massachusetts |
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| Old Sales |
Latest
Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| Reverse Proof (S) | 49,727 | 49,727 | – | – |
| 25-coin roll set (P) | 6,486 | 6,486 | – | – |
| 25-coin roll set (D) | 6,481 | 6,481 | – | – |
| 100-coin bag (P) | 2,746 | 2,746 | – | – |
| 100-coin bag (D) | 2,744 | 2,744 | – | – |
2020 American Innovation Dollars – Connecticut |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| Reverse Proof (S) | 47,257 | 47,280 | 23 | 0.05% |
| 25-coin roll set (P) | 6,496 | 6,496 | – | – |
| 25-coin roll set (D) | 6,425 | 6,425 | – | – |
| 100-coin bag (P) | 2,736 | 2,736 | – | – |
| 100-coin bag (D) | 2,747 | 2,747 | – | – |
2019 American Innovation Dollars – Georgia |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| Reverse Proof (S) | 47,607 | 47,628 | 21 | 0.04% |
| 25-coin roll set (P) | 8,093 | 8,093 | – | – |
| 25-coin roll set (D) | 7,542 | 7,542 | – | – |
| 100-coin bag (P) | 3,459 | 3,459 | – | – |
| 100-coin bag (D) | 3,445 | 3,454 | 9 | 0.26% |
2019 American Innovation Dollars – New Jersey |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| Reverse Proof (S) | 51,040 | 51,044 | 4 | 0.01% |
| 25-coin roll set (P) | 9,103 | 9,103 | – | – |
| 25-coin roll set (D) | 8,043 | 8,043 | – | – |
| 100-coin bag (P) | 3,941 | 3,941 | – | – |
| 100-coin bag (D) | 3,586 | 3,586 | – | – |
2019 American Innovation Dollars – Pennsylvania |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| Reverse Proof (S) | 55,710 | 55,749 | 39 | 0.07% |
| 25-coin roll set (P) | 10,457 | 10,457 | – | – |
| 25-coin roll set (D) | 8,536 | 8,536 | – | – |
| 100-coin bag (P) | 3,689 | 3,689 | – | – |
| 100-coin bag (D) | 3,055 | 3,055 | – | – |
2019 American Innovation Dollars – Delaware |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| Reverse Proof (S) | 71,080 | 71,102 | 22 | 0.03% |
| 25-coin roll set (P) | 9,108 | 9,108 | – | – |
| 25-coin roll set (D) | 8,372 | 8,372 | – | – |
| 100-coin bag (P) | 3,203 | 3,203 | – | – |
| 100-coin bag (D) | 3,385 | 3,385 | – | – |
2018 American Innovation Dollars |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| Reverse Proof (S)* | 74,720 | 74,720 | – | – |
| Proof Coin (S) | 254,127 | 254,127 | – | – |
| 25-coin roll set (P) | 22,903 | 22,903 | – | – |
| 25-coin roll set (D) | 25,725 | 25,725 | – | – |
| 100-coin bag (P)* | 2,935 | 2,935 | – | – |
| 100-coin bag (D)* | 2,954 | 2,954 | – | – |
George H.W. Bush Coin & Chronicles Set |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| $1 Coin & Set | 11,516 | 11,516 | – | – |
2020 Bush Presidential $1 Coin & First Spouse Medal Set |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| $1 Coin & Set | 9,876 | 9,876 | – | – |
2020 George H.W. Bush Presidential $1 Coins |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| 25-coin roll (P) | 24,922 | 24,922 | – | – |
| 25-coin roll (D) | 24,121 | 24,155 | 34 | 0.14% |
| 100-coin bag (P) | 2,695 | 2,695 | – | – |
| 100-coin bag (D) | 2,098 | 2,098 | – | – |
| 250-coin bag (P) | 3,019 | 3,019 | – | – |
| 250-coin bag (D) | 4,630 | 4,630 | – | – |
Native American Dollar Rolls |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| 2024-P Native American $1 25 Coin Roll | 12,837 | 12,906 | 69 | 0.54% |
| 2024-D Native American $1 25 Coin Roll | 12,330 | 12,436 | 106 | 0.86% |
| 2024-P Native American $1 100-Coin Bag | 1,737 | 1,742 | 5 | 0.29% |
| 2024-D Native American $1 100-Coin Bag | 1,752 | 1,762 | 10 | 0.57% |
| 2024-P Native American $1 250-Coin Box | 944 | 952 | 8 | 0.85% |
| 2024-D Native American $1 250-Coin Box | 961 | 963 | 2 | 0.21% |
| 2023-P Native American $1 25 Coin Roll | 13,922 | 13,922 | – | – |
| 2023-D Native American $1 25 Coin Roll | 13,950 | 13,954 | 4 | 0.03% |
| 2023-P Native American $1 100-Coin Bag | 1,695 | 1,695 | – | – |
| 2023-D Native American $1 100-Coin Bag | 1,694 | 1,694 | – | – |
| 2023-P Native American $1 250-Coin Box | 1,595 | 1,597 | 2 | 0.13% |
| 2023-D Native American $1 250-Coin Box | 1,618 | 1,618 | – | – |
| 2022-P Native American $1 25 Coin Roll | 13,996 | 13,996 | – | – |
| 2022-D Native American $1 25 Coin Roll | 13,965 | 13,965 | – | – |
| 2022-P Native American $1 100-Coin Bag | 1,699 | 1,699 | – | – |
| 2022-D Native American $1 100-Coin Bag | 1,614 | 1,614 | – | – |
| 2022-P Native American $1 250-Coin Box | 1,698 | 1,698 | – | – |
| 2022-D Native American $1 250-Coin Box | 1,699 | 1,699 | – | – |
Kennedy Half Dollar Rolls |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| 2024-dated 200-coin bag (P&D) | 6,319 | 6,363 | 44 | 0.70% |
| 2024-dated 2-roll set (P&D) | 25,868 | 26,069 | 201 | 0.78% |
| 2023-dated 200-coin bag (P&D) | 11,171 | 11,165 | -6 | -0.05% |
| 2023-dated 2-roll set (P&D) | 24,987 | 24,987 | – | – |
| 2022-dated 200-coin bag (P&D) | 10,999 | 10,999 | – | – |
| 2022-dated 2-roll set (P&D) | 21,926 | 21,926 | – | – |
| 2021-dated 200-coin bag (P&D)* | 9,976 | 9,976 | – | – |
| 2021-dated 2-roll set (P&D)* | 21,989 | 21,989 | – | – |
| 2020-dated 200-coin bag (P&D)* | 11,776 | 11,776 | – | – |
| 2020-dated 2-roll set (P&D)* | 24,312 | 24,312 | – | – |
| 2019-dated 200-coin bag (P&D)* | 11,534 | 11,534 | – | – |
| 2019-dated 2-roll set (P&D)* | 24,132 | 24,132 | – | – |
2024 Dr. Mary Edwards Walker Quarters |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| Three-Roll Set | 10,285 | 10,303 | 18 | 0.18% |
| 100-Coin Bag (P) | 1,214 | 1,219 | 5 | 0.41% |
| 100-Coin Bag (D) | 1,055 | 1,054 | -1 | -0.09% |
| Two-Roll Set | 2,372 | 2,387 | 15 | 0.63% |
2024 Patsy Takemoto Mink Quarters |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| Three-Roll Set | 11,101 | 11,109 | 8 | 0.07% |
| 100-Coin Bag (P) | 1,485 | 1,486 | 1 | 0.07% |
| 100-Coin Bag (D) | 1,235 | 1,236 | 1 | 0.08% |
| Two-Roll Set | 2,687 | 2,692 | 5 | 0.19% |
2024 Rev. Dr. Pauli Murray Quarters |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| Three-Roll Set | 11,956 | 11,964 | 8 | 0.07% |
| 100-Coin Bag (P) | 1,770 | 1,780 | 10 | 0.56% |
| 100-Coin Bag (D) | 1,429 | 1,437 | 8 | 0.56% |
| Two-Roll Set | 2,904 | 2,910 | 6 | 0.21% |
2023 Maria Tallchief Quarters |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| Three-Roll Set | 12,553 | 12,555 | 2 | 0.02% |
| 100-Coin Bag (P) | 2,024 | 2,025 | 1 | 0.05% |
| 100-Coin Bag (D) | 1,746 | 1,747 | 1 | 0.06% |
| Two-Roll Set | 3,536 | 3,543 | 7 | 0.20% |
2023 Jovita Idar Quarters |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| Three-Roll Set | 12,595 | 12,596 | 1 | 0.01% |
| 100-Coin Bag (P) | 3,989 | 3,992 | 3 | 0.08% |
| 100-Coin Bag (D) | 3,589 | 3,589 | – | – |
| Two-Roll Set | 3,838 | 3,845 | 7 | 0.18% |
2023 Eleanor Roosevelt Quarters |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| Three-Roll Set | 12,678 | 12,678 | – | – |
| 100-Coin Bag (P) | 4,295 | 4,297 | 2 | 0.05% |
| 100-Coin Bag (D) | 3,961 | 3,965 | 4 | 0.10% |
| Two-Roll Set | 4,538 | 4,541 | 3 | 0.07% |
2023 Edith Kanakaʻole Quarters |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| Three-Roll Set | 12,585 | 12,585 | – | – |
| 100-Coin Bag (P) | 7,301 | 7,302 | 1 | 0.01% |
| 100-Coin Bag (D) | 4,559 | 4,561 | 2 | 0.04% |
| Two-Roll Set | 5,775 | 5,782 | 7 | 0.12% |
2023 Bessie Coleman Quarters |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| Three-Roll Set | 12,511 | 12,511 | – | – |
| 100-Coin Bag (P) | 5,623 | 5,626 | 3 | 0.05% |
| 100-Coin Bag (D) | 4,927 | 4,927 | – | – |
| Two-Roll Set | 5,912 | 5,915 | 3 | 0.05% |
2022 Anna May Wong Quarters |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| Three-Roll Set | 7,617 | 7,617 | – | – |
| 100-Coin Bag (P) | 1,860 | 1,860 | – | – |
| 100-Coin Bag (D) | 1,858 | 1,858 | – | – |
| Two-Roll Set | 5,936 | 5,936 | – | – |
2022 Nina Otero-Warren Quarters |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| Three-Roll Set | 7,639 | 7,639 | – | – |
| 100-Coin Bag (P) | 1,856 | 1,856 | – | – |
| 100-Coin Bag (D) | 1,858 | 1,858 | – | – |
| Two-Roll Set | 5,890 | 5,890 | – | – |
2022 Wilma Mankiller Quarters |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| Three-Roll Set | 7,616 | 7,616 | – | – |
| 100-Coin Bag (P) | 1,859 | 1,859 | – | – |
| 100-Coin Bag (D) | 1,833 | 1,833 | – | – |
| Two-Roll Set | 5,918 | 5,918 | – | – |
2022 Dr. Sally Ride Quarters |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| Three-Roll Set | 7,603 | 7,603 | – | – |
| 100-Coin Bag (P) | 1,854 | 1,854 | – | – |
| 100-Coin Bag (D) | 1,852 | 1,852 | – | – |
| Two-Roll Set | 5,926 | 5,926 | – | – |
2022 Maya Angelou Quarters |
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| Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
| Three-Roll Set | 7,588 | 7,588 | – | – |
| 100-Coin Bag (P) | 1,858 | 1,858 | – | – |
| 100-Coin Bag (D) | 1,861 | 1,861 | – | – |
| Two-Roll Set | 5,940 | 5,940 | – | – |
If the 2024-S Silver Proof Set is experiencing so many returns at its previous price of $130, what does that say both about its current sales at the new price of $150 for the remainder of this year but the future sales at this same higher price next year?
Kaiser, based on what yourself and Major mentioned about returning(?) 2024 Ag PF Sets, due to quality and as well as Major’s comments about his latest AI $1’s(?), I’d say that the US Mint has been sending out and receiving back, poor QA/QC products that should have never been shipped to the end consumer to begin with. I’d be making sure to get a return authorization with a prepaid shipping label from the US Mint, so the “crap” products they are sending out, can be shipped back on their “coin”! That is a whole heck of a lot of returned… Read more »
“Hopefully those of you out there reading, have been inspecting closely, the coins received from our US Mint?”
… particularly good advice perhaps for those who never open the shipping box.
Yes, REB you hit upon the key thing. I do open up every shipping box that I receive and check the contents against the receipt and the correct catalog # and quantity. Unfortunately, I’m guilty of leaving some in the Mint’s inner box (such as the uncirculated sets, AWQ PDS rolls, and AI$ rolls and bags). But I do inspect every proof set, eagle, and M&P coin that I buy pretty thoroughly.
Major D,
I don’t blame you for not opening any of the AWQ PDS Rolls nor the AI Rolls. I’m of the opinion that doing so would only serve to jeopardize both the provenance and the quality of the enclosed coins.
I got boxes f USM stuff unopened, I do scan, or did scan proof sets. I quit a few years ago even the Flowing Hair may not draw me back, O foresee like $4k…..maybe a deal @$3,880
John Q. Coinage,
I open everything because I don’t slab so I don’t have to hold onto any evidence of any kind for special labeling purposes. As for the Flowing Hair, I can’t afford the gold and I don’t collect medals (silver or otherwise), so neither of those interests me.
I quit buying all silver and clad coin offerings in 2016….I don’t see any real collector value in mint offerings, just pull current year from circulation……from the mint, just buy selected gold offerings now…looking forward to the flowing hair gold….do hope the packaging is not too big….I had bought Mint offerings heavily late 90s thru 2015, sold/traded everything but certain gold in 2018-21, all went into AGE bullion. For collecting I now look for pre 33 gold at regional shows, no ebay any longer
Harry et. Al, I was a dedicated USM customer and promoter since 1968, Ryder BS pissed me off, the shenanigans amd insider NS 2am drops, including enhanced rev. 17 ASE made the mint dead to me.Gold, pre33 only, was excited about the Flowing hair, I got the $ but PASS. Pricing and a stale, sanitary digital strike seems to be th plan
John Q. Coinage,
Very pertinent list of Mint malfeasances you’ve assembled above. Clearly, one comes to a point where the line has to be drawn.
HarryB,
Very astute buying, collecting and accumulating choices. Good job!
Yes, right you are! I’m expecting a really dire FY24 annual report. Not only have sales tanked across the board, but costs have risen and things like paying postage costs twice (once to the recipient, then return postage back to the Mint) plus the time and expense involved in the return process has got to take a toll on the Mint’s bottom line as well.
CaliSkier, It appears that I somehow managed to anticipate every single part of your clearly sage advice. Just as soon as I had received my two Silver Proof Sets I examined every coin very closely and realized almost immediately that these coins were not of the quality that I would want to have as part of my collection. I called the US Mint’s customer service for assistance and was within a couple of days sent the promised prepaid return label for the entire package. I then printed out the label and followed all the attached instructions regarding how to make… Read more »
It might be the case that the 2024-S Silver Proof Set has experienced so many returns to the Mint due to flippers of various sorts having originally bought so many of it at $130 with the intention, based on a hope that rather clearly did not come to fruition, of re-selling it at a higher price once the Mint raised its retail price to $150.
Kaiser, on an impulse eBay purchase I bought a couple of 2024 silver Kennedy PCGS PR70DCAM on a pre-order. I did this in early July (before the Mint’s price increase) as it seemed like a good deal, and shipping was supposed to be by the end of July. Now, the seller is saying they are hung up at PCGS and it could be early Sept. IDK, but suspect there is a lot of difficulty securing 70s due to the poor quality. So, this is looking like another refund.
Major D,
In my experience with purchasing I became all too aware that if a vendor puts the fault for a delay on a third party that vendor becomes suspect himself.
Sales for the silver proof set not going to the moon, who would’ve thunk? It’s probably because they are selling them too cheap. I’m just trying to think like a mint employee.
Sorry, Craig, that tired old technique typically only works when applied to top cruise ship suites and grandiose hotel rooms; all others need not apply.
Let’s all just agree that the flippers and the large scale marketing companies are the core issue here. If it wont get a 70 grade at 1,000,000x magnification the big guys are sending it back, which eventually will cost us all. But if it makes you happy, just continue to blame the mint.
Christo, there’s no reason in this day and age with the technology that’s out there why brand-new proof coins ordered from the Mint are not all stellar. When they look like they came out of a circulated roll with the naked eye, that’s a problem.
Major D and Christo,
Not in the vein of trying to be a peacemaker but simply stating my own humble somewhat in-between opinion, I would say that to an extent you are both right.
If they were all 70s what would be the point of slabbing any of them or looking for the best if they were all the same? But no, the Mint has to perpetuate the TPGs and “large scale marketing companies”. The whole show exists and thrives because of it. The Mint would lose less if they just let the “Bigs” come in, supervise and take their own pristine coins one-by-one off the press with kid gloves. Because everything the Mint does after that wreaks most of them. That way there would be no reason for the “Bigs” to spend time… Read more »
My point was the ‘biggies’ hold the cards. They skim the cream and send back the rest but I will say it again, if it makes you happy blame it on the mint.
Major D, I have NEVER received a proof coin from the USMint that looked anything like it came out of a circulation roll. Maybe tipping your postal carrier a Subway Gift Card at Christmas will improve things.
Christo, I agree with you that the “biggies” hold the cards. But I’m not sure how exactly they got hold of my AI proof sets and returned them back to the Mint before the official release date, so that I received a rejected return? My order was mailed on July 30, the day of release. The photo below is with the lens cover off. So, yes, I blame the Mint for these sub-standard coins.
Major D,
Just to play the devil’s advocate, I offer the possibility that we can’t be sure how long before the official release day those phantom bulk aka advance buyers are able to procure their inventories. If it is indeed a sufficient amount of time, any one of us could be receiving previously rejected AI Proof Sets.
Major D,
One of the admittedly wildest ideas I’ve toyed with recently is that the Mint itself should offer two variations of each of their products, one as is, i.e. “raw”, and the other already graded and encapsulated by an independent neutral third party grader invited to perform this work in house. I know this probably sounds impossible but then again so did the concept of humans flying before the Wright Brothers showed up at Kitty Hawk.
Christo,
Once the Big Buyers, Buying Clubs and other flippers finally had their BOT attacks stiffled it didn’t mean they would cease and desist with any other tricks they had up their sleeves.
Major D,
I’m amazed at the level of synchronicity shown here since I was just contemplating a similar format that could be put in play at the Mint.
Looks like Mint sales of the SIL PR set & SIL AW Quarters set are in the death throes…’24 Burnished Silver eagle taking a hit as well…there was a short window open on ebay to grab the ASE’s & AWQ set way below new mint prices….seller prices are reflecting the increases but a few bargains remain….Grab ’em while you can!
Looks like slabbed pr70 Kennedy’s will be an all time low for both grading services….you are lucky if you scored one early on …they will cost you now…
I suspect you may be right, Foxman69.
Major D and Foxman69,
The absence of expectations leads to the avoidance of disappointment.
2024 S Proof Silver Kennedy Half Dollar – PCGS PR70 DCAM FDI – In the Box! . I waited 100+ days for this presale to get here. I think this is the first time that the Mint had ever delayed the release of any product in its entire modern history. It definitely screwed up the Advanced Release, FDI, and FS market for sure. No worries for me though. I obtained a really good coin. However, I am sure the pre-sellers were sweating their nuts off this year over the delayed release. After 2025, this little wooden box gets closed for… Read more »
Well now, E1… It is good to see your voice again! I hope you’re doing well. If anything, and to coax you out of the woodwork, it would be you receiving your long awaited ’24 PF70DCAM FDI Kennedy Coin. Congratulations! Great coins right up there, and an empty space to the right for next year. Makes you wonder what craziness will happen when that one is released!? If I’m not mistaken, those coins that you have there are most certainly on my go to list dubbed “E1 Top 25 Kennedy Money Coins”. It seems that I better get with the… Read more »
Here,
Here’s a teaser new photo on that 1881-S $1 coin Kaiser & E1, anyone…
Notice anything different in it’s presentation?…..
Nice…. Stickers?
This one I sent in to CMQ just for you John Q(and me!)…..
This coin has the green sticker(std) instead of the Gold sticker(exceptional)…
Is it a copycat grade approval service? Sure, but a good one imo…
Nice investigative work Cali, I expect nothing less from you buddy!
Rick,
What does “copycat grade approval service” actually mean?
CAC was doing it first(solid grade approval & sticker recognized)”for years”.
CMQ has jumped into the sticker game and appears to be a copycat(same exact services, even down to the dates/series of coins approved & recognized)”for months”.
There are a few other “stickering services” out there–but don’t have the legitimacy factor going on. Not even close imo. More on that in a new post.
Rick,
Thanks for the explanation. I guess if someone invents sliced bread all kinds of brands of the same are guaranteed to follow. Money makes the world go round and it’s even better when one doesn’t have to come up with the original cash grab idea oneself.
Excellent Rick, I think these 66/67s may…maybe one day pop a bit….. I got the ‘99 in a 63 for a decent pric, slightly better date. There is a 67 1907 I’m eyeing, <$3k. Finally got a 1891Cc $10…. Au53
Excellent back at you! The better dates are better lol, and I should be looking at more of them really. Classic Gold is the best.
Any CC is a better date. The ones in MS really jump in price!
Rick and John Q. Coinage,
You know I neither buy gold nor slab coins but that doesn’t mean I don’t get vicarious enjoyment from observing the assorted avenues you both pursue to enhance your pricier collections.
Incidentally, the day I spend more than a couple hundred bucks on a coin will be when Lucifer opens his ice skating rink.
Maybe both stickers were already there so the following may be irrelevant? Nice one(puzzle) Rick and the coin is also sweet. Took me a little bit to figure it out(I couldn’t make out CMQ on the sticker in pic). Additionally those of us, that haven’t been shopping the auctions per se or deal with/collecting slabbed coins, may have some difficulty figuring this out? I’m just a bit obsessed with coins, coin info, coin data, collecting coins, hoarding coins, accumulating coins, looking at coins, reading, researching, learning about coins, puzzle(?) solving involving coins, etc. I’ve just not had too much experience,… Read more »
I sent them in for the ‘CAC-like’ service lol. You passed the ‘puzzle’ Cali. Anything with those famed Numismatists mentioned above. Or the the mention of Mr Q David Bowers even remotely involved(Stack’s Bowers), then they’ve got my full attention… You’ve all seen this coin before, but with the CAC green only..I guess I liked the colorful ‘stickers’ I got as a grade schooler so long ago, and never grew out of it lol….
Rick,
Why do the CAC stickers come in different colors?
Green is great, and recognizes the grade on the holder as being accurate and at the top tier of the grade to boot. No sticker for the dull, lifeless coins. No sticker for the over graded coins that are all over the place now. Gradeflation has become a problem in recent years. CAC & CACG is slowing it down some, and is good for the TPG industry, and for collectors imo.
Gold is grand, an exceptional coin for the grade on the holder. It would grade higher by at least 1 point if resubmitted.
https://www.cacgrading.com/stickering
PCGS now provides clean slab for many obviously cleaned 19th Century coins. I saw a PINK $10 with a Au 58 grade, very bad color, Bust half’s grading now a joke
John Q. Coinage,
I imagine the only excuse for buying an obviously cleaned coin would be if it isn’t available in any other format due to extreme rarity.
Kaiser, a lot of the stuff profiled here in previous articles about hoity-toity auctions have been cleaned and rubbed before being slabbed and given an outrageous grade. It’s all a huge scam IMO. When it benefits a high dollar client, cleaning and rubbing is overlooked. But when it’s the everyman it’s a cardinal sin. What a crock!
Major D,
I have no problem whatsoever believing that to be the case. We are taught and expected to believe in the Golden Rule while in reality it is the man who has all the Gold that makes all the Rules.
Rick,
Thanks so much for yet another particularly enlightening eplanation, this one in regard to the types of CAC stickering and the meaning and intent behind them. I understand much better and in more ways now why these stickers can be so vital for the determination of the value of any encapsulated coin.
Bam! A total eye popper Rick. Great Coin! Thanks for sharing.
Thanks E1, I’ve gotta run and get the grill hot.
I’ll be back!
Rick,
You’re coins are already smokin’, why not get the grill going too!
Rick,
The sticker with the light blue griffin in a yellow field, maybe?
Rick, I was getting ready to say “Awe Crickets” and then I saw your post. . Sounds like you’ve been rubbing elbows with The Three Kings. Its not what you know, but who you know, and those are some good people to know. . That set of eight you have there is a total eye popper. I can see that you have put a lot of time and effort into each coin. Truly awesome Rick. Regarding the yellow sticker with the flying lizard, you’re gonna have to enlighten me on that one. . As for going after the “E1 Top… Read more »
More later E1 on our collection interests, I have some thoughts on the current state of “stickering Services” as well…
Here’s a service that has just recently started up as Cali has posted as well, but has some legitimacy, similar to CAC imo…The Lizard sticker is the main Logo for Stack’s Bowers Galleries. CMQ is a Stack’s Bowers subsidiary…
https://cmq.stacksbowers.com/about-us.php
As long as my slabs don’t end up looking like the photo below, I’m good….
Rick, said: “ The Lizard sticker is the main Logo for Stack’s Bowers Galleries.” Unless I’m missing something Rick, E1 or others that may be following this topic their(Stack’s Bowers) main logo, as I also noted above in my response, is a Giffin vs a Lizard, which is part Lion(body) and part Eagle(tail & wings) PS Maybe you both meant to write “Griffin” and were hijacked by auto correct/spell? LOL
Thanks for the clarification. I didn’t know what the symbol was, other than noticing it when browsing the Stack’s Bowers spot bullion auctions, and then when joining the CMQ stickering service recently. I think your spell check might have been messing with you as well above?
LOL Rick, not my spell check, but my eyes as all of my stuff computer wise is signed, sealed, delivered, via and old IPhone 7. At least I’m batting .667 on the Griffin spelling, hahaha. Actually, now I’m @ .750, BAM as CAG and now E1 would say! LOL
I think we may need to work on getting you a nice desktop with a large touchscreen monitor/all in one PC. You, as a ‘coin guy’ would benefit greatly when looking at coins online. I use an all in one with a 24″ touchscreen and it’s fabulous! I think I heard E1 say he has a 30″ monitor for his browsing! E1?….
A 32″ Samsung TV (HDMI) with a Dell i5 64bit.
E 1, Rick and CaliSkier,
Smart TVs, smartphones and smart cars are all outside my orbit. I was happy to jump onboard when the subcompact car, cellphones and the personal computer each made their appearance, but I’ve made a real effort to stick with the simplest available iterations of each of those to this very day.
CaliSkier,
The only semi-modern tool I have is an HP Pavillion Laptop; works fine.
And Google is our good friend!
Rick,
My dear wife is always advising me to stop consulting Dr. Google. Did he go to a Caribbean medical school or something?
CaliSkier,
Please don’t get upset but my ever-present OCD hyper-detail orientation requires me to point out that a Griffin has the head, talons and wings of an Eagle and the body and tail of a Lion.
Clarification, it’s a lion’s body and tail, an eagle’s wings and head. Just sayin’. 😀
Rick,
Now one won’t have to buy either the coin or the slab but the stickers!
Yep, it’s looking that way!? Sad but true and guilty as charged!
Rick,
Nothing to be ashamed of. You’ll already be at the forefront when the next addition to the slab adornment parade comes into play!
LOL Rick! Although this slab has a “Fractureless Slab”
sticker, perhaps a “copycat” certification of that one, could be as shown below? There is room for one more on the front of this slab, after all! LOL
Perfect! And yes–it’s a ‘Gold’ sticker!
My High School baseball team..
The Griffins
And Merv Griffins kid went there
Good one! Now for the coin…..
I think I’ll send this one in below, just came in. Another common $1 mid grade coin. However since it’s ‘perceived’ as a better coin than what the holder grade says, along with the holder being an original(OGH (1st Gen), it’s worth more than the coin lolol. There is a nice area to the left up there for a Gold & turquoise ‘Griffin’ sticker lol. I did buy the coin, the holder, and the CAC sticker in that order of significance….
Rick,
It’s great you display your coins on here; livens the place up a bit!
!✔️
E 1,
If I was the envious type I would be gnashing my teeth right now. That 1944-D Walking Liberty Half Dollar is a simply FANTASTIC coin!
Thanks Kaiser!
E 1,
I call’s ’em as I see’s ’em, my friend! And, you’re welcome.
Good Morning and an FYI, fellow “Coinheads”! A public service announcement(PSA) put out by the F.B.I.(Federal Bureau of Investigations) from 6/25/24. Yes there have been ongoing scams for years, however this official notice serves as a reminder to be careful and if it sounds too good to be true, there is a better chance than not, it is! Caveat Emptor! “Scammers Falsely Promise Significant Profit to Victims in Collectible Coin Scams” For any that may have or believe you’ve fallen into this trap or similar, you are encouraged to “REPORT IT If you believe you have been a victim of… Read more »
Unfortunately the majority of the scams are perfectly legal when you look at the small print as to what exactly you’re buying. Such as those ‘tribute’ coins plated with $2 worth of Gold, or the word ‘COPY’ plastered on the ‘coins’ etc. etc. Magic Mike be damned!…..
Not sure if you read the FBI PSA alert Rick, however they were specially highlighting/documenting a specific type of scam. “Scammers “cold call” victims to market their alleged collectible coin business. If victims already have collectible coins, scammers promise them a high rate of return for selling the coins.” Quite different from the “copy” or facsimile coins online, you mention as being in the majority of scams.
Thanks! That is bad. Scammers suck sooo bad!
Rick,
Scamming as such is bad enough, but that these thoroughly despicable swindlers primarily go after the elderly and the helpless as easy marks makes all this even more of an inexcusably wretched enterprise. I doubt few if any of these crooks are ever apprehended.
Kaiser Wilhelm relayed in the previous thread re: disputing charges, missing products or scams. “Perhaps this requires a codicil to the effect that credit card companies have a 60 day legal limit beyond which they are not required to accept any disputes. One has to be careful not to let a dispute with any other entity cause one to miss this deadline.” Thanks for the additional stipulations of which, one must stay on top, if looking for a satisfactory resolution. Thanks also for increasing my vocabulary! Never heard of or have I seen the word “codicil” in use! Out of… Read more »
CaliSkier,
Sorry, the closest I’ve ever gotten to the legal profession was paying through the nose for my divorce attorney. Aside from that, I think the fact that English is my second language, one which I had no choice but to learn posthaste – or licketysplit if you prefer – in order to attend American schools in Austria and Germany, helped me to focus on learning as much of and about the new (to me) language as I could.
Earlier this week an online PM dealer claimed, “Since the initial release of the 2024 “Burnished” Gold Eagle, some important new details have come to light! This news could cause a major shake up for the “Burnished” Eagle series.” Does anyone (Rick/Cali) know what these “new developments regarding the 2024 “Burnished” Gold Eagle” are which this dealer is referencing?
Really?? . Now you’ve really got my interest really peaked! Is it an Error I wonder! I have only one burnished Gold Eagle and it’s the one from the 20th Anniversary Gold Eagle Set. It’s been graded MS70 PCGS FS Flag Label, of course, you ALL by now should know, I only collect PCGS First Strike, Flag Labels! I do NOT collect or chase the FDOI nor Advanced Releases. I just have a “thing” for the First Strike, Flag Labels, don’t ask me why. The only reason is probably, or at least what comes to my mind is I HATE… Read more »
Rich(?), I haven’t come across any such points of interest, besides what I’ve gleamed, whilst looking for an answer to your question. Two items, came to light which may or may not be related to your inquiry. This years burnished/uncirculated(No W, MM/bullion) 1oz AGE’s production numbers are way, way less(so far) than 2023. So far, this year, the USM reports(7/28/24) a total of 196,500 1oz AGE bullion coins sold/produced thru July 2024. In 2023, the Mint produced/sold 666,500 thru the same period.(Jan-July) Another 257,500 1oz, 2023 AGE’s were produced/sold from Aug-Dec, for a grand total of 924,00 2023 bullion, 1oz… Read more »
CaliSkier, thanks for confirming that you have not come across any specific points of interest related to my question and for the useful, comparative information on the mintage figures for the bullion 1 oz AGEs (no MM) and the sales figures for the uncirculated (burnished) 1 oz AGEs (with “W” MM), especially in light of the average daily gold spot prices cited. PS Not sure how to add an initial to highlight the Rich versus Rick distinction.
Rich, not sure if you’re a Coin News subscriber or not? Maybe more is required as a subscriber than what I’ll try to explain below. I’m not a subscriber, so when I use the “Reply” Or “Join Discussion” feature, although the fields auto populate, with my previously used data, I can still add to or edit “CaliSkier” by simply clicking inside that “field”/box. If your name/handle/ID auto populates, just click inside or on that “field” and simply click behind “Rich”, add your last initial behind or use an “alias” last initial behind Rich, if you so choose. You don’t have… Read more »
Nothing on my end Rich(with an ‘h’ lol).. I do prefer the burnished AGE’s over the Proofs, but don’t collect them religiously. I enjoy not only the superior strike compared to the Unc no W bullion, but also the unique satin/matte like finish treatment to the planchets provided. Out of the 3 that I’ve purchased, they were all direct Mint OGP purchases stored away until this year, and all 3 graded SP70 fwiw. The Mint does produce quality coins, just not every time. Rich I’m curious as to who the online dealer is that is saying this? Perhaps they have… Read more »
Rick, thank you for noting that you have not seen or heard anything pertinent to any alleged new developments/details involving the 2024-W Uncirculated $50 AGE. It’s probably best not to advertise the name of the online dealer, since it could be some sales gimmick hype.
RicH and RicK,
As it is said, discretion is the better part of valour. Or is that “valerie”?
Rich,
“It’s probably best not to advertise the name of the online dealer, since it could be some sales gimmick hype.”
Yes, that would be my first guess, second, third and each one after that!
For any interested, here’s the 2017-2024 1oz bullion(No MM) annual mintages for comparison. 2017 228,500 2018 191,000 2019 108,000 2020 747,500 2021(Ty 2 transition year) 1,115,500* 2022 850,000 2023 924,000 2024 196,500 to date JM Bullion “The US Mint is revamping the reverse images of the bald eagle featured on both the American Silver Eagle and all four American Gold Eagles in 2021. However, you will notice the 2021 release cycle has a Type 1 and Type 2 option. New dies to be used in the coining process were not ready in late 2020 when the US Mint began striking… Read more »
Another speculative guess would be that there will be little or possibly “no more” 2024 1oz AGE Bullion coins produced in 2024? I wouldn’t be surprised at all, if this were the case. The AP’s might be a bit “gun shy” with how volatile spot gold prices have been this year, although they cost average, it may be too risky to purchase more of the coins for inventory or they have enough on hand or in the market place, to fulfill demand already, for the remainder of the year? Comparable numbers were produced in 2017/2018, however those mintages were more… Read more »
CaliSkier,
Just a wild guess but is it possible the big billionaire buyers of gold bullion coins are investing much of their money elsewhere to get higher returns?
Indeed, the “final” mintage figure for the 2021 $50 (1 oz) AGE Type 1 is 456,500 and the Type 2 is 665,500. The 2021 $5 (1/10 oz) AGE Type 1 [mintage = 150,000] and the 2021 $25 (1/2 oz) AGE Type 1 [mintage = 31,000] ended up being the low mintage coins of the 2021 AGE Type 1 and Type 2 bullion denominations. For perspective, here are top 5 lowest mintage bullion AGEs by denomination/size, 1986-2023: $50 (1 oz) AGE Bullion 2019 = 108,000 2007 = 140,016 2001 = 143, 605 1996 = 189,148 2018 = 191,000 $25 (1/2 oz)… Read more »
Interesting and thanks for the numbers Rick. Ironically, here’s what I posted on MNB after a couple exchanges w/Buddy(MNB) My post from June 1, 2023 @2:13 following up 2 previous posts w/Buddy. Too funny, as those 2 had references to Cag and what his thoughts on AGE’s were. LOL W/O further adieu: “ Buddy, I’m a fan of lower mintages long term, on higher demand or readily recognized issues personally. Even better if that coin is of a higher quality/visual appeal! I’m finding out just now, that if you take a peek at coins under magnification they all seem to… Read more »
Rich, I thought I was replying to Rick? Anyhow in case you or others are wondering, MNB = Mint News Blog. The site(MNB) began posting, actually in 2007 and continued under Michael’s(Zielinski) reign until he “whoa, take the money” and ran! LOL Whitman Publishing purchased Coin Update News, Mint News Blog and World Mint News Blog in April of 2016. Then in November of 2023 the sites(Blogs), as well. as Whitman Publishing as a whole, was purchased and the blog sites(above) were exterminated by CDN Publishing, without any formal announcement, correspondence, notification of any kind! Nope, I haven’t forgotten. Super… Read more »
CaliSkier,
It’s been my impression, and please correct me if I’m in error here, that some if not indeed a good number of the folks who originally migrated here from Mint News Blog have since again moved on to what for them might be considered to be greener pastures. My speculation as to why this may have occurred is that our particular content, format, style and ambience might seem a bit “unusual” to some other people’s tastes.
CaliSkier,
The combination of the 2021 Type 1 and 2021 Type 2 American Silver Eagles made for a very good year for my limited but personally highly valued ASE ensemble.
Any thoughts on the 230th Anniversary Flowing Hair Silver Medal being offered by the Mint for $104? I had my hopes about buying one and now I’m not so sure.
Antonio, I’m definitely taking a pass on it if the mintage limit is as high as the American Liberty Ag (75,000) and L&B Ag (75,000). Those two will likely still be around next year. Maybe if the mintage is 40,000 or less. IDK, I haven’t been having much success with the quality of silver proofs lately.
Major D,
It’s bad enough to receive questionable Proof Coins but to also have to accept Proof Medals at the same high price takes this nonsense to an entirely new level.
Going to pass, an expensive silver round at that price. Many Flowing Hair rounds exist some decent renditions. Now, the gold Flower, not sure price likely $1,200 ver spot, maybe too digital for me, add a few minor die cracks. Silver should have been a DOLLAR no imagination
John Q. Coinage,
That Silver Medal as opposed to Silver Dollar foolishness is a perpetual boondoggle both for us as coin collectors and for the Mint itself. Since these ducats aren’t officially sanctioned by the Congress the Mint can only make the Silver iteration as a Medal while it can feel free to mint the Gold version as a Coin. Until this is changed through edict of legislation the dualistic metal release of these coin replicas reamains an ongoing insult to silver coin collectors.
I will get one because I love the “class” of the design (far superior to the modern AWQ imho)
Anymore, buying items from the mint for re-sale is difficult at best for the small personal collector.
I buy only what I like – that way – I’m happy regardless if what the mint does.
Will get “1”
Love the way you “roll” Tony@GA! “Buy what you like”, as it should be IMO! Good luck to yourself and any others purchasing Flowing Hair product in the fall!
Tony@GA,
Nothing wrong with being a proud member of the Each To His Own Society.
Lots of thoughts Antonio, LOL. Ok, I realize this is a modern rendition or updated version, however I’m not a fan of this upcoming “Flowing Hair” design as opposed to the classic 1795 $1. Just way too much computerized “Botox” and “fillers” applied IMO. In order to really see all these changes, they should be compared, side by side. From the outside looking in, first up are the “denticles”. On the Classic version, the denticles appear a bit more like a strand of pearls, raising off the coin, towards the viewer. On the new, they are somewhat “flatter” in appearance… Read more »
Cali, excellent and couldn’t agree more. Intentionally making it look “primitive “ would have been a way to go. Now the design is sanitized and softened for your protection. It reminds me of how they film Joan Collins, thru Cheesecloth. AI love it correct Joan to…. Tom Collins wtf
CaliSkier,
The biggest change I noticed is that the date 2024 has been moved from almost touching the stars on the left to being centered between the two rows of stars.
Antonio,
I can’t grasp the rationale for spending $104 for a Silver Medal. Besides, we are required to do so only because no one in a position of authority at the Mint, Treasury or Congress will take it upon themselves to do whatever it takes to put an end to this ridiculous Gold Coin versus Silver Medal situation. This is after all nothing less than a blatant example of discrimination against those who can’t afford the price of gold coins.
Coming in 2028 a commemorative to honor TEN YEARS of sales for 2017 Au $10
John Q were you referring to the 2018 American Liberty $10? Don’t give the Mint any brilliant ideas! LOL
Yup 18, 17 whatever a joke. Cag and I argues a lot of it was ever $180….. fuguly sells, huh,!
BTW thanks E1 and Rick for sharing pics of your coins! That 44’ Walking Liberty is sweet! As well as that group of 8 that you posted Rick! Very nice coins, slabs, stickers and grades! I’d be stoked to own any single one of them, let alone the quantities, varieties, choices and grades in either of your collections.
Thanks Cali. I think Rick and I painted the walls up pretty good today.
Peace Out
Thanks Cali and E1. E1 that’s the nicest Walker you’ve posted yet! And there’s her thumb in high relief-like! That album is going to be/is stunning. Can’t wait for that. Keep the pics coming. I was ‘this close’ to starting a Dansco short set after seeing your recent -S coin, but not yet, not now. Your enthusiasm is catchy!.. The 8 coins in the photo I had sent to CMQ for stickering were an experiment/sampling in a way. I had picked some different looking coins & dates, but all -66 or higher grades(most are anyway). 6 out of the 8… Read more »
Rick,
This week will be very busy for me. I will be taking off for a while. When I have some free time, I will drop back in. As always, it’s been grand. Alot of really good stuff here today – Thanks.
Cheers Bro
Ditto on everything you said E1, always a blast.
In a week I’ll be headed back to the Sunshine State for some work and I won’t be posting as much, and no photos yikes! But I’ll have some grading results pics and thoughts here & there in the evenings.
Later E1.
This year for Christmas I am asking Santa for a quick and easy way to find the two new posts among the 86 posts already submitted!
Meanwhile I will ask (BEG) you all to NOT use the reply button unless you are responding to the last post made.
When replying to older posts, just start off with the name of whom you are replying to – they’ll know what it was you are discussing.
Thank you all for your consideration.
DaveSWFL, to find recent comments:
Use the “find in page” feature in your browser, (Ctrl+F) or what ever your browser uses for a keyboard shortcut. Search for “minute” if you want comments within the last hour or search for “hour” if you want comments within the last day. You can quickly step through the comments looking at the time stamp.
Bingo, you just made my day!
Will do Dave(I’ll try).
“Stickering Slabbed Coin Services” CaliSkier) “PS Any thoughts on MAC and are you able to get a coin with MAC and CAC certification and would anyone want or benefit from such, re-sale wise?” I don’t put any credence in MAC stickers/stickering. Sorry to offend those that bought/buy them, or the dealer who decided to give it a go. As far as I can tell the MAC stickers are on eBay. The reason I don’t like them is what’s written on the sticker. Such as ‘UCAM’ ‘PL’ ‘FINEST’ ‘SPOTLESS’ ‘FULL BEAK’ and so on. Especially when the sticker does not match… Read more »
Thanks Rick and with the reasons you gave, I completely understand and concur!
Are these slab stickers a gimmick and marketing stunt? Sure. Will they add value to your holdered coin? Maybe. Are they just as much a joke as the multitude of senseless labels out there? Sure. Here’s my pecking order for the 5 stickering services that I’m aware of. And no, I’m no expert, and yes, I use two of them. Least desirable to most desirable (to me)… 5) Sight White Certification Service; Lol, and the name speaks for itself(must be a white thing). They like ‘Blast White’ Coins only. No toning, dark areas, spots, etc on modern coins… They don’t… Read more »
Suppose they issued a Silver proof set….and NOBODY cared, that my friends is the Mint’s future
Talk about scams. You all think these stickers are foolproof? They can’t be lifted from one slab and put on another? Or copied or counterfeited?
I’ll just place my own sticker on it! But first, I must clean up my cursive..
“Rick-A-Check✓” Approved! lol
Rick, I like it!
SOLD!✓
DaveSWFL, Ho, Ho, Ho, and another “Ho”, Merry Christmas in August! You said: “ This year for Christmas I am asking Santa for a quick and easy way to find the two new posts among the 86 posts already submitted! Kia99’s suggestions are solid, there isn’t any option, to my knowledge for a control/function on a phone. I will do my best to just tag post onto the end of an ongoing thread. I did try that initially, when we all moved over from MNB, however no one else seemed to follow suit. Pretty much the same, since you posted… Read more »
Rick said: “Here’s my pecking order for the 5 stickering services that I’m aware of.” Thanks for the additional input/info on stickering. I have observed and would agree, CAC stickering adds to the overall value of a coin when it comes to market, vs those w/o CAC stickering. By no means, are you an amateur IMO. Perhaps not at an elite or professional level, however far from amateur IMO. I was inspired by your “Rick” sticker, so I thought I’d see what I could create on my computer/iPhone7. HAGN and start to your week! PS Glad to see they appear… Read more »
Coin Mafia, I like it! I’d buy that for a dollar, too.
$1.50!
Above…the by now famous “phantom reply” of AKBob.
I’m going to guess that the invisible reply was a std emoji?
John Q too? I’m not allowed to post std emojis from my desktop HP. But I can post ‘Kaomojis’ all day long. Like these Kaomojis below!
¯\_(ツ)_/¯, ⚆_⚆, ^_~, etc….
Kaiser, you’re correct, it is/was a phantom “reply”, lol!! I have no idea how or why I did that. Definitely not on purpose! Good catch and I liked your “reply” too, lol!!
Thanks to everyone who weighed in on my scratched-up slab question. Since I feel I got an ok deal on it, I’ve decided to keep it and try the Fine Scratch Remover that Rick suggested. I believe it was AKBob who once referred to the College of Coin Collecting (or something similar) so I’ll put it down as one more expense towards learning another lesson towards a long-shot “degree” (BS?) in coinology.
It’s an older video and the product he’s using may not be available? But he has that other stuff for polishing that should help. The coin and the holder deserve to be treated well…
Thanks, Cali.
For sanity I have decided to stop searching back and just read new posts after the last one I read. If there’s 8 new posts and I start searching back and reading I frequently lose count and get frustrated because I hate missing out on new information. That’s how valuable I find this blog to be!
Guess I’ve just got to get over my paranoia and “let it go”.
Mafia sticker – classic Cali humor 🙂
DaveSWFL,
I feel for your frustration, but I do believe you’ve hit upon the number one response to such perplexing situations, which is to “let it go”. My dear wife is called upon to remind me of that “universal solution” regularly and I am (usually) grateful to hear it.
Kaiser Wilhelm said: “Christo, Once the Big Buyers, Buying Clubs and other flippers finally had their BOT attacks stiffled it didn’t mean they would cease and desist with any other tricks they had up their sleeves.” Not sure which or what tricks you’re referring to, however they were going to “supposedly” have additional guidelines/restrictions in place re: their purchases. However, does anyone believe there is some sort of US Mint Police, out there enforcing and looking for the “bad actors”? Not a chance, just another placating move by the US Mint with no repercussions nor ramifications. Guaranteed! Oh well, speak… Read more »
CaliSkier,
You hit on it exactly, my friend. What the Big Boys of all varieties resort to now ever since their BOTS have been neutered is to very skillfully manage to skirt as many Mint rules and regulations as possible, such as those you’ve touched upon above, in order for them to forever stay several steps ahead of the competition.
A total “Blow Out” occurring with PM’s! How low can they go? Gold down $54.30 or 2.22%, Silver down $1.52 5.32%, Platinum down $43.00 or 4.71%, & Palladium down $48.00 or 5.48%! Volatile for sure!
Silver heading back down to $24. After the manipulators made their money from folks thinking the hype was real and it was finally on that long-forecasted rise to $50. Same as it ever was!
Yep Major D, precious metals getting hammered. Oddly, it’s USGs inflationary policies causing the rise in precious metals with a weak US Dollar. There’s a point where markets & USG enjoy higher inflation as it stimulates growth by making consumers use their money supply, credit to support that growth. However; when the rubber finally hits the road – consumers funds drying up, changing in consumers purchasing habits, etc., then the “hard landing” comes into play. Wonder when the US Mint will lower their prices on precious metal products. Mint needs to act like the markets do when prices go down.… Read more »
ChrisTerp,
Extra, Extra, Read All About It!
US Mint Announces Massive Rollback In Silver Product Prices!
NOT!
Fingers crossed Kaiser but don’t hold your breath 😉
That’s some sound advice there, ChrisTerp.
No problem whatsoever. No biggie! Just a little more Quantitative Easing and we’re good to go! Perhaps a stimulus-check-for-all come Sept/Oct–Perfect timing!
Perhaps Rick the Mint will provide collectors a stimulus check to purchase their products – ha ha ha 😉
ChrisTerp, “Rick the Mint” is providing us with stimulus checks? Hot dog! Thanks, Rick.
Here you go, and tailored to your personal tastes…
It’s ‘in the Mail’!
Dang, I don’t know how Rick showed up in that post. Guess fat finger or autocorrect BS.
Believe I just meant “Perhaps the Mint…”
Are you gellin? I’m gellin.
Completely, 100% gellin! I’ve never been in a more comfortable space than right now. Thanks for asking!
Here’s a tip for you to enjoy –“Rick the Mint” style!
With all this “Rick talk” I feel like I’m about to be “Rick Rolled”!
And there it is!
Make sure those get a Gold CAC when they’re slabbed.
I’ll give it a shot!
What may help me out is that I’ll be hand delivering the slabs in person to be stickered. I’ll have them help me unload the boxes of slabbed coins from my ‘special vehicle’. The subtlety & psychology of my in person deliveries really works!
I’ve been told that Metamucil usually helps with Quantitative Easing.
Major D,
The ultimate onus is on us, as in why would we think it would ever be different.
I’ve commented that I tend to live my life in an optimistic manner, but I manage to recognize sufficient hard facts to temper that in some realms.
Thanks Kaiser, but ultimately, I’d like to leave my onus out of it.
At least I employed a polite euphemism to point a finger at the onus.
Best not to probe
Major D, they’ll circle around Uranus to wipe out cling ones, lol!
AKBob and Major D,
All this could have been avoided had they named that planet Thyass.
CaliSkier,
When the bottom starts to fall out, begin to suspect there might be no bottom.
USM Director, Ventris Gibson at work, justifying the high prices by giving out discounts to the “Lucky” few? “Attendees will have the exclusive opportunity to participate in a drawing from August 7 to August 10. Five Director’s Raffle tickets will be drawn each day, giving the ticket holder the ability to purchase one of 20 2024 Liberty & Britannia Silver Medals (24YB) at a discounted price.” Welcome to Chicago! “United States Mint Director, the Honorable Ventris C. Gibson, to Participate in the American Numismatic Association’s 2024 World’s Fair of Money®”
https://www.usmint.gov/news/press-releases/united-states-mint-director-the-honorable-ventris-c-gibson-to-participate-in-the-american-numismatic-associations-2024-worlds-fair-of-money
Wow! What a raffle. It reminds me of those vacation “give-aways” where you win a raffle to get a “discounted” price on a Florida vacation. Oh, boy! I suspect the only kids at the Young Collectors Corner will be those that were dragged to the convention center by an elder and dropped off there while they look for eagles.
Major D and CaliSkier,
That Ventris The Magnificent raffle sounds like one of the most el cheapo non-events of all time. You would think the contest would at least involve giveaways!
Even Crypto is getting pummeled! Stocks, PM’s, & Crypto,
Oh My!
Shades of Black Monday.
Rich,
If only it were so simple as to be able to blame this on Edmund Blackadder, but short of that it appears we may be in for some stormy financial weather ahead.
More likely the work of Mr. Bean.
By George, I think he’s got it!
CaliSkier,
Has anyone checked with the Lions and Tigers and Bears?
Seriously though, it’s both astounding and unsettling that so many legs of the financial pedestal are being sawed off at the same time. How often does this happen?
The Tigers not so good at 15 games back. There’s hope for the Lions, but only if their bone-headed coach learns from last year’s mistakes. Da Bears? Don’t care much being a long-suffering Detroit fan.
#1 Hell freezes over. #2 Lions win the Super Bowl.
Major D,
During the 1965 Christmas vacation from MSU I had the distinct pleasure of being invited to attend a Redwings – Blackhawks game in Detroit when the great Gordie Howe was with the team. A truly unforgettable experience.
Hey Kaiser, didn’t know you were a fellow Spartan! You were there for the glory years of Duffy’s Giants and Bubba Smith back-to-back national championships 65-66. For me it was Jud and Magic. Never made it to The Old Red Barn, but many times to Tiger Stadium to see Al Kaline. Good memories!
Major D, Yep, Class of ’69, complete with lots of great Spartan football courtesy of Coach Duffy Dougherty (and the legacy of his predecessor Biggie Munn), Bob Apisa, Gene Washington*, George Webster*, Clint Jones*, Steve Juday and Bubba Smith* (* = Hall of Fame). I was enrolled in the brand new Residential College (the first of three at Michigan State) known as Justin Morrill College. It was located in MSU’s oldest residence hall Snyder-Phillips in a bucolic old section of the campus easily identified by the earliest (MAC – Michigan Agricultural College) smokestack on campus. We had a 50/50 male/female… Read more »