U.S. Mint 2024 Flowing Hair Silver Medal Images Unveiled

The images on the medal also mirror the designs planned for the upcoming 230th Anniversary Flowing Hair Gold Coin

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The United States Mint has published images of the 2024 Flowing Hair Silver Medal as part of the lead-up to its scheduled release on Oct. 15, coinciding with the 230th anniversary of the 1794 Flowing Hair dollar, the first U.S. dollar coin. This medal showcases the iconic designs originally created by Robert Scot, the U.S. Mint’s inaugural Chief Engraver.

The U.S. Mint unveiled images of the 230th Anniversary Flowing Hair Silver Medal
The U.S. Mint unveiled images of the 230th Anniversary Flowing Hair Silver Medal

The silver medal images reveal not only its designs but also those of the companion 230th Anniversary Flowing Hair Gold Coin, which is slated for release sometime this fall.

In late 2023, design renderings for the pair were presented to the Commission of Fine Arts (CFA) and the Citizens Coinage Advisory Committee (CCAC). The review panels offered differing final recommendations. The CFA favored alternatives addressing alignment concerns in the original 1794 designs, while the CCAC endorsed the originals. Ultimately, the originals prevailed, with the U.S. Mint describing the final designs as "true replicas of the original dollar, re-sculpted by Mint medallic artists." The re-sculpting is credited to Mint medallic artists John P. McGraw for the obverse and Eric David Custer for the reverse.

The obverse presents the original 1794 dollar, updated with the year "2024." Liberty’s portrait faces right, encircled by 15 stars representing the states that had ratified the Constitution by 1794. The reverse depicts a laurel wreath surrounding an eagle with spread wings, an early predecessor to the American heraldic eagle.

Priced at $104, the silver medal’s mintage has yet to be announced, but it will carry an initial household order limit of five. Struck in an uncirculated finish at the Philadelphia Mint, the medal features a composition of .999 fine silver, weighs 1.000 troy ounce, has a diameter of 1.598 inches (40.60 mm), and a plain edge.

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U.S. Mint image showing the plain edge of the 2024 Flowing Hair Silver Medal
Flowing Hair Dollar - Edge Inscription
U.S. Mint rendering showing the edge inscriptions for the 24-karat gold coin

Similar to the 1794 silver dollar, the 24-karat 2024 Flowing Hair Gold Coin will have its denomination incused on the edge, reading: HUNDRED ★★ CENTS, ★★ ONE ★★ DOLLAR ★, and ★ OR ★★ UNIT ★★★.

The first 1794 Flowing Hair silver dollars were struck on Oct. 15, 1794, with the U.S. Mint producing just 1,758 of them that year.

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Major D

Now I know a lot of collectors out there love the throw-back designs on the classic coins, but I must say that the 30-degree straight slope from the top tip of the head to the bottom tip of the nose is a bit comical. I guess that was the beauty standard back in 1794, to not have a forehead.

Major D

Kaiser, absolutely “each to his own”. I do like the “old-timey” look on the original because it has character. The perfected “new-timey” one, not so much. In the words of Don Henley, I saw a DEADHEAD sticker on a Cadillac
A little voice inside my head said, “Don’t look back. You can never look back”.

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Rick

Bingo!

Rick

I’m a 20° guy….
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Major D

Too much forehead. Lose another 10 degrees and she’s a hottie.

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Rick

Lolol, I tried…
She does have Flowing Hair! But it’s all bundled up, oh well.

John Q. Coinage

I agree that this Flowing hair needed to look primitive like made in the 1790s. Add a die crack? It’s nice but the cost 3x Au+ gold over 3500….. mintage will be critical but the silver is just a medal, I can get silver rounds of Flowing Hair$ for what $35?

CaliSkier

For any that may have an interest. Slated for release in tomorrows Federal Register. CCAC Meeting for September 24, 2024 at 1-4 pm EST. This will be held via remote teleconference. “Review and discussion of the candidate designs for the 2025 Comic Art Super Heroes coins and medals; review and discussion of the candidate designs for the Emmett Till and Mamie Till- Mobley Congressional Gold Medal; and review and discussion of the candidate designs for the Lower Brule Sioux Tribe Code Talkers Congressional Medals.” For those wishing to view the meetings live stream, you can go to the US Mints… Read more »

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John Q. Coinage

Thanks Cali! I really couldn’t be less interested about those Superheroes

John Q. Coinage

Imagine if they did 4 Classics a year, say a gold Stella, a 1804 $1 in Au, Gobrecht 1$ and 1913 Liberty 5c in silver! Nahh let’s do a Supergirl coin…wtf

AKBob

I’m actually quite excited about this release. I do however so wish the Medal was a coin as most on here have shared. The main reason I’m so excited is I’m going to get to add more gold to my gold stash. I lived almost my entire life without being able to afford Gold. Now, I’m old and I can finally get Gold. I’ve been adding over the past 4-5 years gold but I kinda kept that from the Wife, mostly with 1/10th oz gold coins. It’s really hard to justify even a thousand dollars on a coin much less… Read more »

Major D

AKBob, congrats on following your passion! You may end up having the biggest Alaska stash since that Alaska Centennial Nugget found in Ruby!

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Rick

I’m in for the Gold AKBob, More details would be nice as to how many will be available? If they do things like the L&B then I won’t believe them. A week after the L&B 30 day window had closed I thanked Ventris face to face at the ANA show last March. I said I appreciated how that release was handled, and we know how that turned out. As I started to move on she said “wait until this fall” to me and others nearby. Well what does that mean to me right now? Not much. I think she needs… Read more »

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John Q. Coinage

I may get the gold but it will be $3500+…. The #$ will tell for the legs in aftermarket. Kinda too sanitary looking but still neat. I really but nothing anymore from the USM. Nice HR they haven’t quite appreciated as I’d hoped.

Rick

Ditto on both coins. Aftermarket shopping is where I’m trending as well John..
Spot has helped the 2009 a lot. Too many struck didn’t help, but a great final result in the coin. The Mint does a good job on the HR coins. The coin is so thick that the holder has to be thicker too. It doesn’t fit into the std slab boxes like in the pic, so it’s lonely lol…

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Rick

Yes, but these days not so much.

John Q. Coinage

A lot of good deals, a lot missed. Overall pretty good with the spot rise, pre ‘33 premium has dropped, a double edge sword, picked up a 1873 open3 $20 62 for “just” $2,100 before the latest spot pop. Perhaps Kaiser the 1904 $20 my dad bought me back in the 1970s for $48.50 looks pretty good. LA Times has a classified as for years $20 Au for $48.50 :>}. Now let silver return to a 20-1 Ratio

John Q. Coinage

HAD……. Duhhhh

Rick

I was speaking in terms of buying gold in the current spot situation ‘these day’s.’ But yes, any gold purchased just a few years ago and beyond is looking pretty good!

Craig

Kaiser, I have to say it’s absolutely great for the added value of all my past Au coin purchases, but it dictates a more discretionary attitude concerning future purchases. For me, it isn’t a question about disposable funds, it’s about buying value. Unfortunately I don’t see value buying from the mint at their current premium over spot for both Ag and Au. But I certainly don’t disparage anyone from buying what they want as that’s what makes the world go round. It’s not like the mint is the only place you can find Au coins for sale. BTW Kaiser, for… Read more »

John Q. Coinage

Logical Craig, but the USM prices are about a non starter for me, at this since 1968

Craig

AkBob, I appreciate your desire to collect as much Au as you can, but I question why you are doing so by buying from the mint. Don’t get me wrong, I’ve bought many Au coins from the mint in the past, but those pieces didn’t have the premium/fee costs of current coins. For example, I bought several 2006 Au Buffalos for $800.00 each when Au spot was $625 or so. I would see a nice profit on these if I ever wanted, or needed, to sell them. I did buy the 2021 4 coin Au proof set for over $5K… Read more »

John Q. Coinage

Craig I snagged the Buffalo w fractional set like $1,800? but got Unc which is worth less then the proof. In the day you;could get real good deals on mint gold, pre grid Times. Still did better in the aftermarket buying the gold JFK and SLQ

Craig

J Q C,

Those fractional sets are two of my best gold purchases from the mint. Congratulations and consider yourself fortunate to have the Uncirculated Set, even though it’s valued a bit less than the Proof Set..they’re both great to own. In a way, it’s a shame the mint only issued those fractional sets for the one year as I was planning on buying them each year. Oh, if we could only go back and do it all over again!

John Q. Coinage

Craig, yes, they were going to issue fractional until they weren’t. All those 1/2z proof AGEs I got back @$400 are a lot now. Cag would say 1/2z a loser, uh no Charlie

Craig

J Q C,

I wouldn’t call any fractional AGE coin a loser. I’ve collected several of the 1/10th oz AGE’s as well as the big $50 coin. You did very well with those $25 AGE’s, as they now cost $1675 from the mint. We can barely buy a 1/10th oz AGE for $400 now. If I were you, I’d hold on to all of those ‘loser’ 1/2 oz AGE’s! I don’t know who Cag is, but he doesn’t sound wise to me.

Craig

Kaiser,

Only 18K gold? I’d have thought Rolls Royce would’ve gone with 24K. But then again, I’d never know as I’ve never owned a RR. Lol.

Craig

Kaiser,

It’s bad enough wondering if someone is going to rip your catalytic converter off while your enjoying a meal or movie, but having a 18k item just begging someone to take it, well that would be a bit much for me. I guess that’s one of the reasons I’ve never hung any of my gold coins out on my front door. How much Au is in one of those medallions? It does make for an eloquent statement on the car, but it’s probably one of the reasons you never see a RR parked at the mall.

Rooster

I’ve never owned a Flowing Hair coin before so I will be in for this medal. Has anyone noticed that when looking at Lady Liberty’s eye it may look open or it may look closed? One of those brain teasers. Maybe she was winking at me.

East Coast Guru

I am pretty sure she was winking at me.

Rooster

East Coast Guru: Well now I am getting jealous. Are you sure she was winking or just blinking?

Rooster

Kaiser: Too funny!

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Rooster

Kaiser I did zoom in and you are correct. I did not notice her pupil until this. But still odd at normal viewing.

Rooster

Kaiser: I was thinking a contact lens.

John Q. Coinage

Nope some Indica from California

VA Bob

The Mint sure is winking at you, with those premiums, that’s for sure.

Rooster

Yes they are Bob. That is why my subscriptions have been reduced by 80-90%.

CaliSkier

Yesterday, I received an e-mail from the Mint, reminding to check your account to verify credit card and shipping information. They are getting ready to ship the 2024 Uncirculated Coin Sets! They also mention: “Due to new safety procedures at our fulfillment centers, it is taking longer to process and ship orders. Thanks for your patience.” Now for the $29 question. Will they try and sneak in a last minute price rai$e, on US Mint clad products via a Federal Register notice, prior to shipping or “let it ride”? After all they raised the price on silver products just 2-days… Read more »

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Rick

I have noticed all year that they’ve had that(delay)message up and it could be due to their fulfillment center moving to texas?

Craig

I’m not in the least affected by any of the mints sudden changes concerning prices because I cancelled all subscriptions I held with them. My sense is I’m not the only person to do this and wonder, with fewer buyers ordering items, why the delay in processing and shipping.

AKBob

Craig, Good question!! I’ve canceled ALL of my subscriptions too. I’m only interested in the Au Flowing Hair and the Au American Liberty Series, that’s about it other than my annual bullion MS70 PCGS FS Flag Label and the Burnished ASE as well, graded the same as the bullion ASE. Otherwise it’s Pre ‘33 Au. I’m pretty much done with the Mint as far as purchases go. I’m not even interested in the 2021 Mor/Pea any longer much less the ‘23 & ‘24. I’ve almost sold all of them and I had well over 100 of them!! I backed the… Read more »

AKBob

Kaiser, I’m sorry for taking so long to respond to your comment about the Mints pricing grid. I knew already it didn’t apply to Silver Ag. I posted that regarding gold not silver but I can see how you might of thot I was thinking silvers on the pricing grid. I appreciate you bringing that up as some newer collectors may not know that. I don’t mind being corrected even if I wasn’t wrong, lol! I have thick skin in that regard. It’s stress and anxiety that I don’t deal well with so I avoid that like it was the… Read more »

Craig

AKBob, I like the way you and your wife have saved money over the years! Too many people in today’s society think they have to have the newest and best widget and as a result all they build is bad credit and debt. I scrimped and scraped after buying my 1st house and eventually paid it off after only 11 years. I’ve never paid another mortgage since then, which was in 1996. I’ve been buying coins from the mint since then (I know I should’ve bought the Au set with that ’95 W!) but also learned about investing in the… Read more »

AKBob

Craig, I purchased the maximum allowable from the Mint on the 2021 Mor/Pea and then I kept buying them off ebay. I mostly purchased 3 coins at a time because I wanted them still sealed/unopened since I was planning on sending them in for grading plus I like sealed box’s, no cherry picking that way. I purchased them immediately after each release and then I just held onto them till this year. I only have a couple left now. I will definitely share my opinion of the Au FH. More than likely Rick will post photos of his, assuming he’s… Read more »

Rick

Great story AKBob, I enjoyed everything you said about how you have gotten where you’re at today.

John Q. Coinage

I fired the mint years ago as well Craig….

John Q. Coinage

Yup. Kind of a pyramid scheme now with the price levels, well many here are on the base @ least

Rick

Bingo again! That’s what the Mint is doing. The delay warning is a “just in case” message I think.
I’ve placed 5 orders this year and every one came in 2 days(but I’m near TX?). Faster than a decade ago using UPS imo. Similar speediness as yourself and MD with your Silver PF sets. Maybe they’re making up for something else with the fast shipping? Interestingly enough, the one product that did not ship from TX was the L&B Gold. It came from the regular location that slips my mind at the moment.

Antonio

I’m looking forward to the Wonder Woman coin. I wonder if they’ll use Lynda Carter as an inspiration. Wonder Woman! Wonder Woman!

Antonio

I’ll wait to see what the aftermarket price is.

CaliSkier

Fun with US Mint sales numbers! The last known sales report showed 12,678, 2023 Eleanor Roosevelt PDS 3-roll sets sold, out of a possible 12,620 maximum product limit.
Numbers, schmumbers… accounting or accurate accounting at its finest? Of course, as some would like to say, this is all with in the, trade, “accepted accounting standards or practice”?

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CaliSkier

Out of a maximum mintage of 750,000 across all product options(PF, Unc, 3-coin PF set), the 2024 Greatest Generation half dollar sales are currently at a LKS of 28,389. The Harriet Tubman half dollars with the same 750,000 max mintage limit across all product options, has total half dollar sales of, 20,965. That’s just 3.8% and 2.8% of their listed maximum mintages respectively. The “Glass half full” point of view, is that they are both getting solid A’s, for the percentage of products not sold, coming in at 96.2% and 97.2% respectively! That leaves roughly or approximately, just 720K and… Read more »

DaveSWFL

How’s this for a CCAC recommendation – DISCONTINUE THE COMMEMORATIVE PROGRAM. Or at least quit making clad half dollars. Either no halves or SILVER halves.

I don’t think they de trash many coins from over production. I think they do small batches to meet previous demand levels. Just a guess, though.

Major D

Kaiser, I’m not so sure about “production runs are to the contrary likely rather limited.” If you look at the actual coin acts for GG and Tubman, it seemingly directs the Mint to make the exact number. It doesn’t say to make up to the number, at its discretion.
H.R.1057 – 117th Congress (2021-2022): Greatest Generation Commemorative Coin Act | Congress.gov | Library of Congress

Major D

Kaiser and others, my bad- I should have bothered to read the entire text of the Coin Act, and not just the summary before posting. Unfortunately, I caught my error after the edit time had lapsed. The act does have language that says “Not more than” so it is not an exact production number.

AKBob

DaveSWFL, I couldn’t agree more with You and most others here mostly do as well (I think). The extremely high mintages and those clad half dollars just aren’t appealing to collectors. There’s rarely an upside to them too! Not too many folks are really into modern clad coins either unless it’s the proof or uncirculated mint sets. I doubt the Mints listening tho.

John Q. Coinage

Anyone paying $55 for a clad quarter is NUTS

John Q. Coinage

Or half……ooops

Christo

Mintage product limits for coins (legal tender) are set by congress. It’s written right in the legislation. The mint has more input when it comes to the production of medals.

Major D

Christo, this is not meant to be argumentative, but rather just curious as to what happens to product limits in the case of surprise Fed ordering. Or, were you speaking of numismatic products, and not circulation? For instance (from Dec 15, 2023 article in CoinNews) “the past two fiscal years (2021 and 2022), the Federal Reserve unexpectedly ordered millions of Kennedy half dollars for circulation.”
U.S. Mint Strikes 604M Coins in November; 50c Mintages Soar to ’83 High (coinnews.net)

Christo

I was specifically speaking of commemoratives. The laws covering circulating coins are not the same as you noted.

Major D

Thanks for clarification. That’s what happens when reading the comments from the bottom-up, instead of top-down.

Sam-I-am

Kaiser, E 1 et al.,

Here’s another attempt at attaching photos of interesting (to me) coins,, This should especially appeal to you, Kaiser. Can you educate me on the translation of “vereinsthaler”? Thaler, I know about, but Google translate didn’t help any.

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Sam-I-am

And here’s the reverse….

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Rick

Thanks for sharing Sam!
I agree with AKBob, the reverse is great with lots of details that are on the higher end of AU. You can tell that it was a very dark coin before being cleaned. Really Nice coin you have and genuine, that’s what authentication is all about for those old coins! Since the coin was upgraded to a Gold shield service level you should have hi rez photos of that coin that you can share—like this image of ”your coin!”…..

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Sam-I-am

Rick,

How do I go about accessing and attaching the PCGS photos? They are far better than anything I can produce!

E 1

Kaiser,

This may be a good one for you.

1861 – Probably one of the more interesting and more difficult times in German History. Much much long before all the madness of course.

Sam,

Good job with your photo upload. Yes, 2.00 MB or less and the JPEG format has always went through for me. Rick came through with the authentication. Maybe Cali can come through with more info. I hope we were able to help you.

All my best

E1

Sam-I-am

E 1,

I’ve often said (to any who would listen) that coins are history you can hold in your hand. I can’t afford anything in the way of ancient Greek or Roman art, yet I can hold a 2500-year-old coin in my hand, and feel some connection to those long gone times.

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Sam,

I agree. When holding an extremely old coin in your hand, you do get a sense of being there. That sensation is real and cannot be denied.

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Sam-I-am

Sorry for the poor photo quality. I’m having to use my wife’s cell phone camera, set to low res. Kaiser, any idea why the reverse has the Roman XV? I assume the “fine Pound” refers to the monetary unit? Not very “shiny”, but not run-of-the-mill, either.

AKBob

Sam-I-am, thanks for sharing this coin! What I really like is the reverse side! I actually purchased a German coin, raw/ungraded off ebay a few months ago only because I loved the reverse, which was an Eagle very similar to yours! I don’t remember where it’s at or I’d put it on here for you to see. I had all my collection spread out in my loft upstairs, out of sight from regular company just visiting for a bit or over for dinner but we had out of town company so I had to put everything back in totes and… Read more »

Sam-I-am

AKBob, Glad you enjoyed the “show”! Rick, thanks in advance for the education on the Gold Shield – I’ve been able now to look up my coins at PCGS. Can I copy & paste their image here? I find the background of the old World coins (along w/the ancients) to be almost as interesting as the coins themselves. Since I’m not into coin flipping for profit, I’m not as concerned about which coin will sell for what price. AKBob, I’d love to join you in your pursuit of gold coins, but my meager finances won’t allow it. More power to… Read more »

Rick

Sam-I-am, Yes it’s pretty much copy/paste going on. Once you have the page up with your coin on it you can copy/paste the address for us to click & view all of the goods on your coin like mintages, values, provenance if any, and the image. Or take it further like I did with your coin. Click the image for a larger view, click the down arrow at the top right⬇️ for a super high rez photo that opens on its own page. Then copy paste the image(link). I’ll try one now and see if I can do it again(from… Read more »

Rick

PS: Sam,
You can post 1 photo and one link per comment, any more than two links can cause delays(for me anyway)…

Sam-I-am

Rick,

Thanks for the advice! I’ll keep it in mind.

Rick

Thanks Kaiser!
A USM purchase 12 years back and recently resurrected. The Silver I like as well. 1812 was a significant part of American history.
The Silver reverse displaying the “Flag was Still There” below…

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Sam-I-am

Kaiser, One of my trio has a bit of a story as well. My Granddaddy Eiseman was a banker, and could afford whatever he wanted. He thought it would be nice to share his love of coins with my grandmother, so he had a pair of 1915 $2.50 Indian gold coins made into earrings for her. They went out to dinner one night; when they returned, they discovered one of the pair was missing! They went back and searched the restaurant & parking lot, but never found the lost one. After he died (far too young at 64), she kept… Read more »

Sam-I-am

Kaiser,

Thanks very much for the education! I had no idea how to read the complete “sentence”, as it were.

Rick

Hey EC Guru,
Since you’re in on the bidding, today it jumped from 77k to $82,500 currently!
Great Collections gives me unbelievable bidding/buying power ($960k), but that’s not what I have available, not even close! Loose 2- 0’s and that’s totally pushing it.. I’m thinking about bidding for the fun of it, knowing it will bid higher — or will it? I better not…
5 hours to go!
https://www.greatcollections.com/Coin/1598572/Russia-1919-Gold-44oz-IngotBar-Bearing-Imperial-Hallmarks-Uncertified-Approx-AGW-398-oz-Ex-Mikhail-Pleshkov-Jr

AKBob

Rick, there’s over $111K in melt alone!! I would think it’d go for a lot more than melt as it’s got a ton of History!! Please let us know what it ends up going for.
Thx in advance!

P.S. you sure you don’t want to bid on it? We could go halves, lol!!

AKBob

Kaiser,

AKBob

Kaiser, . There was supposed to be three laughing Emogis but they didn’t show up! I hadn’t noticed in my previous posts that Emojis aren’t showin* up. I use them a lot too! Oh well, much worse things to worr6 about, l9l!

AKBob

Karen set, thx for the tip! I’ll try it here, now! 😉

AKBob

Kaiser, somehow your name got replaced with Karen! Great, now you’re thinking I think your a “Karen”, lol. Sorry about that, wasn’t intentional! 😉

East Coast Guru

Hey Rick, Regarding the Russian 1919 gold bar, I quote from the great philosopher Maxwell Smart who once said on many occasions, “Missed it by that much!”

Rick

Me too, ohh so close lol

Rick

$104,000 and some change for the Russian gold. It is a 90% gold bar, so the purity came into play, but the history is interesting!
To be a member(to view final sales, etc is just like being signed up for the US Mint or Amazon. An email and the address(in case you do buy) and a password is all it takes. Any payment info is entered after the sale. No CC required up front as far as I can tell?!

AKBob

I just saw a 2023 Liberty Medal (silver) sell on EBay for $67 in an auction! I don’t think there’s going to be much upside on this product. I’ve got two, one still sealed/unopened from the Mint and a PCGS PR70, First Strike, Flag Label. I think the upside has now headed (South) for the inversion, lower than mint issue pricing, sadly. Typical of medals and Commemoratives, unfortunately. I purchased mine because I actually liked it. I should have known better as I should have waited and got m8ne for less money. I’m still very happy with both purchases tho.… Read more »

Tony@GA

I know it’s been said but…. “If” the mint would’ve have kept the “sold out” in place on these they’d be worth a lot!

They had a golden opportunity to jazz things up and to keep people guessing and even some FOMO moving on toward sales but they blew it big time and they lied.

The honorable Ventris ain’t so honorable imho. I truly hate it for people on a tight fixed income that invested precious money to slab them thinking this would be a hit.

John Q. Coinage

Medals of late are basically overpriced silver rounds. Don’t get me started on the obscenely priced USM bronze medals. Liked the ‘23 design! Maybe look for one on eBay

Tony@GA

A good word sir – thank you!

Major D

Tony@GA, the Mint did the same thing for the 2022 Amer Liberty medal (bucking horse) where it appeared to be sold out at roughly half of the mintage limit, only to have the other half dropped into the inventory later. When you see a mintage of 75,000 you got to believe the Mint will make close to that number. I’d be very leery about buying the upcoming silver Flowing Hair if the mintage limit is about the same.

Major D

Sam-I-am,

Here’s some more information on your 1861 German 2 Thaler coin:
2 Vereinsthaler – Free imperial city of Frankfurt – Numista

Says it has a mintage of 1,787,000. Also, that there is edge inscription.

Sam-I-am

Major D,

Thanks for the link! I’d almost forgotten about the edge inscription, as it’s not easily visible in the holder. “STARK IM RECHT” translates on Google to “strength in law”. No surprise that my coin is the most common of the mintages, and most common condition, as well! Some folks look at value charts and assume their coins are all at the top – I assume all of mine are middle at best.

Major D

Sam-I-am,

And here’s some more info on your 1500’s Thaler of Rudolph II coin, based on the 1595-coin photo provided by Kaiser:
1 Thaler – Rudolf II (Kuttenberg) – Kingdom of Bohemia – Numista

There are a number of coins from Kingdom of Bohemia that might be your match that are profiled on Numista, which you’ll see if you do a search for 1595 Thaler of Rudolph II. There are mint marks to look for, which identify as Kuttenberg, Joachimsthal, or Budweis.

Sam-I-am

Major D,

I had that one slabbed by PCGS, also. Let me see about adding their photo…Got it! The holder indicates Kuttenberg. Thanks for reminding me of the Numista resource, also. Very useful.

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Major D

Kaiser, part of loving coins is loving the history of it as well. There’s German influence in our early coins through Christain Gobrecht (father came from Germany– well what later became Germany) and John Reich (US second engraver, born in Bavaria). Design of Liberty Cap Silver Half Dollar by John Reich:

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AKBob

Major D, I really like that reverse in the photo! I really prefer some of the older Eagles on our much earlier coinage. They just look kind a “wilder”, “rougher” Eagles to me. I like that look, it almost could pass as a drawing a child did. Am I making any cents, lol? I’m just having a difficult time expressing how it looks to “Me”. It’s not the perfect look. Seriously, am I making any cents? The new, modern coins look “digital”, almost in a way, fake looking cause they’re so perfect. Don’t get me wrong, I prefer perfection but… Read more »

Major D

AKBob, some of those early eagles look like they could be dragons to me. But I agree it does give them a rougher, more appealing character!

AKBob

Major D, you know, now that you say that about some looking like a dragon, you are correct! If you don5 look twice or closer, you could think it’s a dragon on a few coins made years back! Great point!

AKBob

Sam-I-am, I am very thankful you posted your two precious “very old” coins and even better yet, you have had them authenticated and graded. Great job My Friend! I love Eagles on coins! I’m especially in love with the German coins with the Eagle! The design reminds me of 1800’s silver coins produced by our very own US Mint. I wonder if it’s just me or are there other collectors out there that have a “thing” or just a great liking or love of Eagles on coins! Could some of you posters & lurkers respond to that? I would sure… Read more »

Sam-I-am

AKBob,

I’m glad you enjoyed my “Eagles”! I have a few other “interesting” coins that I’ll share a bit later.

John Q. Coinage

Wow USM announced Lost In Space commemorative for 60th anniversary.

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Rick

Well if that’s the case then they need to come up with a 50 year anniversary coin in 2026 for “Mr Bill” lol..
I think I’m getting old….
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VA Bob

The Mint has officially…

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Mike Petraitis

What do you think the mintage will be on the gold one and what do you think the price will be?

Major D

This is purely conjecture on my part, but I’d say the mintage limit for FH gold will likely be 10,000 (same as L&B) and the price (if current spot remains steady) will be $3,520 based on the Mint’s 2024 Pricing Grid. However, L&B gold is unavailable with current sales at 5,537. So, perhaps the Mint will make far less than the mintage limit that it states.

AKBob

ALL, if anyone happens to see when the Mint releases its “release date” and when there’s a photo of it (Flowing Hair) in Gold, the coin. The medal, Silver, is already showing the photo and I “think” the release date! I can’t wait to see the photo but better yet, I can’t wait to hold it in my hot “little” hands, lol! Now no joking about my latter part of my last sentence! Keep politics out of here, lol!! Thanks in advance!

AKBob

Kaiser, Lol!!!!

AKBob

Kaiser W, Hey, how come your emojis show up on your posts and mine don’t! No Fair Kaiser!!

VA Bob

Nice Adam’s apple.

VA Bob

The flowing hair liberty gal’s neck is just a bit too manly for my taste, is all.

AKBob

I’ve been watching a 2023 American Silver Liberty Medal (Tree) that’s a Buy It Now on Ebay and it still hasn’t sold for the low asking price of $72.95 . It has about an hour and a half before it’s listing is scheduled to end. You can’t give these medals away it seems! I already have two, one graded and one still sealed/unopened in the original Mints shipping box! These Medals will only be worth a tiny bit over spot Silver in a couple more years! That’s very sad because some of these Medals have a nice design but they… Read more »

Major D

AKBob, I’m still miffed about buying a bunch of 2022 silver medals (horse) when it looked like the mintage was going to be around 30,000 (this was back when you could see the available inventory in the source code), only to have the Mint add another 40,000 into availability at the end of the year. This is what’s dropped value IMO. A mintage limit of 75,000 is way, way too high. It really should have been 30,000- for the tree, too.

VA Bob

Tell me about it. I bought those 2003 100th anniversary of the National Wildlife Refuge System silver medals. Managed to get all four, only 25000 of each made, except for the Eagle which I believe there were 35000 made. One would think they would be a hot item. Nope. They can be had even now for around an ounce of Mint priced silver, or less. That experience turned me off of Mint medals for good.

VA Bob

I agree whole heartily. Especially the silver, but I used to be a buyer for the bronze. I like some of the designs, but the cost doesn’t justify the purchase for me. Private mints make some nice pieces for a better value. I stopped buying from the US Mint altogether last year, after years of slowing down. Still interested, but it will have to be from the sidelines from here on out.

VA Bob

Personally, I believe the huge bronze medal price increase was intentional because the Mint really don’t want to make these. Higher prices mean fewer buyers, and less product sitting in storage. That why they seem to be switching to silver, IMO, and selling bronze at near silver prices will give them an excuse for declining sales.

AKBob

The 2023 Silver Medal I spoke about in an earlier Post above did NOT sell!! It’s been resisted for the same Buy It Now price! Ugh!