Twenty coins are included in a new product debuting today from the U.S. Mint. At noon ET, the 2024 United States Mint Uncirculated Coin Set® goes on sale to the public.
Commonly referred to as "Mint Sets," these collections are consistently popular with collectors due to their affordability and inclusion of all the nation’s circulating coins for the year. Moreover, the coins in the set boast a collector’s grade uncirculated finish, providing a higher level of detail than those found in general circulation.
"U.S. Mint uncirculated coins are struck on special presses using greater force than what is used for circulating coins, producing a sharp, intricately detailed image," the U.S. Mint describes.
The 2024 set is priced at $29, matching the price of last year’s set but higher than previous annual offerings, such as the 2022 set, which sold for $25.25.
Each set contains ten coins from the Philadelphia Mint presented on one durable card and ten coins from the Denver Mint on a second card, with the U.S. Mint’s certificate of authenticity printed on each. The twenty coins in the 2024 Mint Set include:
- 2024 P&D Native American $1 Coin (commemorating the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924)
- 2024 P&D Kennedy Half Dollar
- 2024 P&D Reverend Dr. Pauli Murray Quarter
- 2024 P&D Honorable Patsy Takemoto Mink Quarter
- 2024 P&D Dr. Mary Edwards Walker Quarter
- 2024 P&D Celia Cruz Quarter
- 2024 P&D Zitkala-Ša, also known as Gertrude Simmons Bonnin, Quarter
- 2024 P&D Roosevelt Dime
- 2024 P&D Jefferson Nickel
- 2024 P&D Lincoln Cent
Among these coins, the Native American $1 Coin and the five American Women quarter dollars feature designs that are unique to this year.
Ordering Uncirculated Sets
The U.S. Mint’s website page for uncirculated sets is the go-to destination for ordering the 2024 Mint Set, as well as any remaining sets from previous years.
Its product limit is set at 190,000 units, with no initial household order limit established.
For comparison, the still available 2023 Mint Set has a product limit of 185,000 and has recently recorded sales of 182,812.
“Commonly referred to as “Mint Sets,” these collections are consistently popular with collectors due to their affordability and inclusion of all the nation’s circulating coins for the year. Moreover, the coins in the set boast a collector’s grade uncirculated finish, providing a higher level of detail than those found in general circulation.”
There, Ladies and Gentlemen, we have it from the horse’s mouth once and for all.
Which begs the question as to why TPGs don’t differentiate between the higher collector set finish and the lower general circulation finish.
Excellent point, Major D, and one that collectors who have their coins graded and encapsulated by Third Party Graders should not at all be reluctant to ask.
Parsing as per CAG(MNB) is the key Kaiser and Major IMO. “Collectors grade uncirculated finish”, what does that “collectors grade”, “really mean”? A “higher level of detail than those found in general circulation.”? Since the coins in the set did not “generally circulate”, less wear, would translate to more detail, less obscured due to the damaged incurred, whilst circulating? In theory of course they are of or should be of a “higher level of detail”? No? Vague and could be interpreted in many ways IMO. Sounds or reads real nice though….
Let me rephrase the question, if there is a higher level of detail in the so-called “collector’s grade uncirculated finish” why is there such a dearth of MS69 and MS70 graded slabs for the circulation denomination coins (1c, 5c, 10c, 25c, 50c) out there? For example, take the 2022-D Sally Ride–PCGS has a First Strike (#902365), Unc Set (#9074730), Unc Set First Strike (#907484) and other labels, but zero MS69 and MS70 in its population. All are labeled as Regular Strike. No 69s and 70s with NGC either. You’d think there would be some 69s and 70s from the sets.
Major D,
That is of course a legitimate question and one I haven’t a clue as to how to answer. In general I feel in way over my head with any sort of grading (and slabbing) issues since I have exactly zero experience with either one of those procedures.
CaliSkier, “Collector Grade” is a specific and definitive distinction the Mint has been making for as long as I can remember to distinguish across the board those of its coins that have been minted with extra care with the ultimate aim of such being to elevate their initial appearance grade above that of the general circulation and bullion coin level. It isn’t a designation which is applied as dependent on an after-the-fact situation according to what use is made of these coins or how they are physically handeled. All of the Mint’s Collector Grade coins, in other words, are designated… Read more »
Now giving TPG ideas for Another label…..collector grade coin strike….
John Q. Coinage,
Good one, and I wouldn’t be all that surprised if it was already in the works. On the other hand, the TPGs could take the opposite route and start a whole new designation, or category if you will, for all coinage not minted to Collector Grade specifications, and that would be one called Business or Circulation Strike. Since going either way would serve the same purpose, in the end it doesn’t matter which route they choose to take.
Deja Vu.
All over again! (Yogi)
Since the subject of the Yankees has cropped up, it was Pee Wee Reese who was my favorite Brooklyn Dodgers player back in the day.
“You cannot connect the dots looking forwards; you can only connect the dots looking backwards.”
– Pee Wee Reese
Major D said in a previous thread: “I wonder who at the Mint thought it was a good idea to have one quarter jammed on the left side of each P&D card in the Uncirculated set. Could have easily had all 5 quarters on the right side arranged like the “5” on dice.” This is another perplexing move by the US Mint??? Who, how, or why, was this new arrangement of coins approved? Nothing visually, would lead me to believe this was a better arrangement or necessary based on the new product packaging. Seems to reason that having all 5… Read more »
CaliSkier, perhaps it was done deliberately in order to deter easy cutting and selling of partial sets– like was done with the States and ATB quarters?
Major D,
I see what you mean. With this arrangement the regular 2024 annual coins can’t be effectively separated from the 2024 AWQ Set. If that was the intent, it’s a clever ploy.
I guess it would make sense if the Mint sold other uncirculated quarter sets like it did with the States and ATB series and was trying not to cut into those sales by thwarting resales of partials. Maybe uncirculated AWQ quarter sets were in the cards but never followed through on? IDK, as it stands all of the uncirculated mint sets with AWQ were done the same way with it being hard to cut out all 5 together as a partial card.
Bingo Major, Cali, Kaiser.
This was a very intentional move to put the quarter over there imo.
There’s a reason no doubt and I’m sure this isn’t the only chat site questioning the move. Could be real simple too. We’ll see…..
The answer to the problem is usually the simplest. Packaging Engineering or the Vendor FUed and they ran with it anyways to prevent a delay on the release date.
The symmetry is off and it looks illogically ridiculous. It has got to be a mistake. They may have had similar problems with the 2024 Silver Proof Set which had a 90 day delay with it’s release. Packaging is an engineering discipline at a number of engineering colleges. It should be taken seriously.
Major D,
I see your point. However, secondary market sellers will still cut these sets up regardless. Just as they always have for decades. Seems like a crafty ploy and sends the wrong message. The mint set singles market is unstoppable and I am surprised the mint would go to such lengths to deter it. Personally, I would be inclined to buy a mint set that didn’t include the quarters.
We will call that one “The American Weasel Quarter.”
E 1,
This goes back precisely to what I said a few comments earlier, that the Mint would have been wise to continue the Annual Uncirculated Quarter Set program beyond the State and ATB Quarters and right on into the AWQ program.
Kaiser, I have no problem with those stand-alone unc quarter sets. However, for those who choose not to disassemble these 2024 Mint Sets, they are stuck with one unorderly and wacky display of coins for reasons they may be unaware of. I think people, new and old to the hobby, will always question that odd quarter off to the left. Is it special? Is it rarer than the others? Is it even a quarter? . Additionally, most mint sets are broken up for reasons of individual resale, certification, and album set building anyways. These behaviors feed other markets (i.e. albums,… Read more »
E 1, Like so many other, if not all things in life, the perceptions we have of how we wish to deal with circumstances of one kind or another depend to a large extent, if not in fact even entirely so, on the expectations we find ourselves operating with. My expectation, for example, is that when I receive my two United States Mint Uncirculated Coin Sets they will be both pristine and intact. Therefore, the very thought of my ever cutting up this particular item, one that I so value precisely for its being perfectly intact, is completely foreign if… Read more »
Like I said earlier, the mint set singles market is unstoppable. The new mint set package configuration is nothing but an inconvenience.
I’ve already ordered my Kennedys and Lincolns still in the blister.
As of 10AM 8/31/2024
If anyone is interested, the 2024 P/D Mint Set Nickel singles are available on eBay. For some reason, they are more expensive than the halves.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/326188435051
E 1,
That’s $14.95 for two nickels that have simply been cut out of an otherwise ten piece $29.00 US Mint Uncirculated Coint Set. How can that possibly make any financial sense? As I said in my previous comment about buying the AWQ part of that same set separately for $29.95, how does any of this make any sense? After all, we’re up to about $35 here already and haven’t even gotten anywhere near to the Kennedy Half Dollar yet, much less the Dimes, the Cents or the Native American Dollar yet.
E 1, Okay, now I feel like I’m really missing something here and I wouldn’t mind at all if this were explained to me in a way I hope I can fully understand. A complete 2024 US Mint Uncirculated Coin Set sells for $29.00. Here we already have the two sets of AWQs alone going for $29.95 via that offer. That leaves to be purchased separately two each of the following: Kennedy Half Dollars, the Roosevelt Dimes, the Jefferson Nickels, the Lincoln Cents and the Native American Dollar. I don’t know what the total expenditure would be for all the… Read more »
Kaiser, For me, I purchased 4 pairs of the P/D Kennedy mint set coins online. Within those 4 pairs, there has to be one pair that is superb enough for my set. Additionally, a reputable reseller on eBay will most likely NOT pass a crap coin for feedback reasons. I will select the best P and the best D Kennedys for my set. In the past, when I ordered 1 complete mint set, I ended up buying another because one of the coins I wanted was not up to my standard. The remaining 3 pairs will remain in their blisters,… Read more »
E 1, I want to apologize if my extensive series of questions seemed too much like an interrogation of sorts. I got so carried away in my desire to find answers that would fit into the framework of my own prejudices regarding this situation that my thinking was clouded by questionable assumptions that I now know did not match the point of the desired outcome of your coin puchasing exercise. Your response with its clear explanation has now served to thoroughly enlighten me in regard to what you are in the process of accomplishing for yourself in the pursuit of… Read more »
E 1, I would suggest that the US Mint Set is actually put together in a rather logical way. Placing one of the quarters within the circle formed by the remaining denomination coins illustrates the integration of all the various coins, especially so the quarter, into a one cent to one dollar complete set while the positioning of the other four quarters acts as a balance for the display in its entirety. P.S. – Before anybody has an inclination to jump down my throat for this opinion, please remember that’s all that it is. I am also happy to invoke… Read more »
Rick,
The Annual United States Mint Uncirculated Coin Set being sold in that specific configuration is obviously of consequence only to those who wish to disassemble it, which is not as far as I know the actual purpose for which it is intended.
And those at the Mint, specifically the Marketing Director, the Mint Director, and anyone else that approved this disastrous design needs to be fired yesterday. The actual purpose and intent of this set or any, should be to attract collectors and resellers to their products, not repel them.
Rick, This is one of those very tough situations to try to come to any sort of even close to common or unified conclusion about since there are so very many different kinds of coin fanciers in America. It therefore should not be all that unreasonable to believe that the opinions, perceptions and attitudes in regard to how the various aspects of numismatics are supposed to operate manifest themselves in a truly wide variety of styles among our nation’s coin collecting, buying and selling community. I can’t help but be of the belief that as a body of hobbyists we… Read more »
Agreed, and speaking from first hand experience… Don’t look down….
Rick,
“Don’t look down….” Very sound advice indeed.
Incidentally, I at first believed it would be impossible to think of any situation that could possibly induce more massive panic than the one portrayed above, then it suddenly came to mind; finding oneself adrift in the middle of the ocean with nothing but water in sight.
Or, as Alice’s Queen of Hearts said, “Off with their heads!”
Postscript: How would I know what the “actual purpose for which it is intended” is? I am only now beginning to realize that once you acquire anything from the Mint or other such coin source, what you want to do with it and how you want to do that is strictly up to you and no one else. Besides, I’ve likely had more and longer episodes of unfathomably daft numismatic regression in my seventy years of collecting than many other fellow collectors have had stretches of solid forward progress regarding their own collections. It is what it is.
Major D,
I had completely forgotten about those States and ATB Quarter Series Annual Coin Sets. This is actually strange because I really liked those and ordered a Set each year. If the Mint had continued with that into the AWQ Quarters I would still be getting them now.
I normally only do precious metal but I did buy multiples of this set on the offside chance a slabbed “D” nickel might be worth some $$$
Tony@GA,
For those who do disassemble their Sets, the presence of that likely scarce Nickel may definitely be an excellent reason for getting more than one of these annual assortments. Unless millions more of these very Nickels are minted between now and the end of the year, the little ducats could end up being worth something.
Kaiser,
I didn’t know the set included a special “D” mint nickel. Do you have the specifics?
Please advise.
Currently another “low mintage “ wonder .
I think the new configuration on the mint sets was the result of the Friday happy hour at the local pot shop in Denver.
Oh no, this is like an overdose of deja vu. Remember when our parents’ generation blamed our exuberant foolhardiness on drugs?
E 1,
I don’t even have the slightest clue as to where the idea came from that the Denver nickel in this 2024 US Mint Uncirculated Coin Set somehow has more significance and/or value than its Philadelphia counterpart. Sorry.
Kaiser and E 1, I think perhaps scarce and special are being conflated? To me, there is nothing of either to attribute to the 2024D nickel- from the set or a roll. Historically, when you look at the series the 1950D (2.6 million) and 1938D (5.4 million) stick out as low mintages, and this was back before coin collecting became the big business it is today. To me, the 2004P nickel (at 36.7+ million) and the 2024D (at 32.8+ million) are going to be well hoarded and preserved to the point where there will never be a scarcity problem. However,… Read more »
Of course I meant 2024P nickel… not 2004….
Major D,
Once more on an out of the ordinary occasion when a bit of factual floundering may have permeated our premises you have ridden to our rescue with the dates and data demanded for the clarification of our possibly considerable confusion.
1950d was saved in many BU rolls, not rare by any means. Most are BU. 2024d 38m no biggy, I did pickup 5 rolls at the bank. 2 Shotgun BU…. 202od
John Q. Coinage,
Another example of how the terms “rare”, “scarce”, “hard to find” and “don’t see very often” may all too easily blend into one another.
Major D, “this was back before coin collecting became the big business it is today.” Once again allow me to don my Devil’s Advocate hat to be able to put forth the idea that maybe coin collecting per se isn’t bigger today except, that is, in the purely financial sense. It’s possible that there are in fact fewer collectors now and the only reason coins seem to be making a bigger splash than they were before is thanks to the average monetary outlay by each collector having increased markedly due to the supplementary and dare I say hardly negligible cost… Read more »
People are still selling and buying 2024 “D” Nickel rolls for 20-30X+ face. Solo D Nickels for $2-$3 a pop. I did see a 2024 D Nickel MS66 FS for $59.99. This may or may not be a good deal, time will tell. The same seller also has a MS65 FS for the same price and managed at least another 3-4 previous sales in MS65 FS at the price of $59.99+ $4.11 shipping. People have been paying top dollar for 2024 D nickels for the past many months. Back in June/July, people were actually paying $130-$150 per 2024 D Nickel… Read more »
Cali,
I’ve been sitting on a box of these and some P&D NF String rolls since the Great Recession. Also, some 2008-P/D dime rolls and slabs. I don’t know if they will ever be worth anything. May be some day though.
Nickles:
2009-P 39.8M
2024-P 36.7M and rising
2009-D 46.8M
2024-D 32.8M and rising
1994 SMS Matte 164K
1997 SMS Matte 25K
The 2024 D’s could come in as the lowest minted business strike Jefferson Nickels yet.
Thank you for your info.
Cheers
E 1,
As Ali G would say, “Very nice!”
That’s a nice 2009-P nickel and near the tip top of the grades if I’m not mistaken. I’ve got about a dozen of the 2009-D dimes in NF String Head/Tail rolls that I’ve saved for an interesting paper weight. In 2009 were the nickels satin in the unc mint set? I’m going off of sketch memory at the moment. If the nickel in the set is not satin and is a regular strike MS coin, how will I know how to differentiate an MS65 nickel that comes from the unc set, as opposed to an MS65 coin coming from an… Read more »
Rick, the Mint Uncirculated Sets from 2005 to 2010 are all satin finish. The nickels are differentiated by NGC as SMS. Jefferson Five Cents (1938-Date) | Price Guide & Values | NGC (ngccoin.com). PCGS doesn’t seem to recognize the 2005-2011 stain finish- at least from what I can see. But your question is very pertinent for Uncirculated Set coins from 2011 to 2024, and for those before 2005. From what I gather, NGC doesn’t differentiate between those and regular coin rolls. As for PCGS, it looks like everything is “Circulation Strike” whether from a set or a roll. I would… Read more »
You mention: “PCGS doesn’t seem to recognize the 2005-2011 stain finish- at least from what I can see.” Major D.
Unless I’ve missed something or am mistaken, I believe PCGS denotes those coins coming from those sets, as SP, vs SMS at NGC, vs MS for the business/circulating coins, from 2005-2010.
CaliSkier, thanks for filling in that information. I see now the SP toggle button: Jefferson Nickel (1938 to Date) Values – PCGS Price Guide. But just SP for years 1964-1967 (Special Mint Sets), 1994 (matte from C+C set), 1997 (matte from C+C set), 2005-2010 (satin finishes from Uncirculated sets) and 2017 (Enhanced Uncirculated set). All else considered MS circulation grade I presume.
For those keeping score in the peanut gallery, I meant “satin” not “stain” (Kaiser and I seem to be having the same problem lately). I’m going to blame my problem on Advil. 🙂
Major D,
Well, maybe we are having spelling (plus in my case word order also) issues here, but I can’t deny some of those mistakes make for a great source of slightly offbeat humor, as in “the 2005-2011 stain finish”. Heck, you can’t beat that with a stick!
Major D,
“All else considered MS circulation grade I presume.”
If they were made for any sort of Mint Set, doesn’t that mean the ones not designated otherwise are all “Collector Strike”?
Kaiser, just going by what the TPGs call them. Everything but those SMS I listed are considered collector strike whether they’re in a set or a roll doesn’t matter.
Major D,
Got it. This appears to be a matter of both the Mint and the TPGs sticking to their guns, so to speak, when it comes to the definitive descriptions of the types of coin strikes. The Mint makes the distinction that coins made for encapsulation in Sets are in fact Collector Strike and those that go into Rolls to be Circulation Strike. Meanwhile, the TPGs clearly avoid following the Mint pattern and instead insist that both varieties of purpose-based coins, whether for slabbing into Sets or packaging in Rolls, are identical in both being Collector Strike.
Kaiser, I think I’m going hang things up for a while, as I keep messing up. And this is becoming a “Who’s on First?” skit. I meant to say TPGs consider coins from sets and rolls alike to be circulation strike (unless from a SMS) — not collector strike. Collector strike is what the Mint call coins from an Uncirculated/Mint Set. As Stan Lee would say, ‘Nuff Said.
Major D,
I’m so far ahead of you in the “I said what I thought was right instead of what I really meant to say or most significantly what I should have said” frequent foible category that I would in no way be justified in accepting your unduly harsh self-judgment of yourself as “messing up.” Everything you’ve said in this thread has not only made perfect sense to me but I can’t even find where in any part of the text above you made the error you think you might have made. Indeed, it’s all good, my friend.
Rick,
“I cannot go off of a concocted and vague statement such as “Collector Grade” coming from a coin news article, a collector, a horse, or the Mint at this time.”
According to the list of exclusion of those sources having no dependable potential for veracity that would seem to leave only the Oracle of Delphi, but that’s all Greek to me. One might wish to bring plenty of Drachmas!
Thanks kaiser, that is sound advice, I’ll check it out!
And then, Rick, you’ll inevitably find out I just may have steered you wrong by encouraging you to bring Greece’s former currency Drachmas when that nation had in fact years ago converted to the Euro. There goes whatever credibility I may have had left!
Rick,
I believe the TPGs will only differentiate with a “PL” or an “SMS” designation in the case of the mint sets. The TPG would be required to cut the coins out of the set to get the set origin on the holder. Also, the 2005-2006 mint sets had varying degrees of matte finish. Some halves from the sets were mostly brilliant and other halves being totally matte.
In the case of the “Congratulations Sets” for the ASEs……………Is this where you’re trying to go?
Not exactly as far as the ASE in the congratulations set is concerned. The 2024 congrats coin description is a proof coin just like the ones they sell in the standalone OGP. Both are the same Proof coins struck the same way.. In the case of the 2024 uncirculated mint sets the Mint clearly states/claims that the coins have been pressed at a higher pressure than the circulation quality coins for a more detailed image. Yet no TPG’s care to make the distinction between the two unless it’s a recognized special finish and/or special strike (SP)going on with said set..… Read more »
Same Coin+Better Strike=Higher Grade????
Same Coin+Matte Finish=SP or SMS???
Just trying to reason it out.
E 1,
It is possible at least some of the confusion stems from conflating “Grade” with “Strike”. “Strike” is what the Mint does and how it does it while “Grade” is what the TPGs do and which one they assign.
That’s the problem, I said that they are the same coin, and everyone else, including the Mint says that the coins in the unc set are better than the coins from the Laundromat.
Time for a comparison once your unc Lincoln’s come in bruh …….
Rick, Will do. Already in the hopper. Later
Sounds good, and if anyone can make an objective observation, it is you. Some E1 photos will tell me the truth…
You have said that those set coins are better in the past and I believe you, including anyone else. It’s strange that the TPG’s don’t make the distinction, I need to get past that one and not worry about it!
E 1, I’m a big fan of those SMS frosted matte nickels and have been surprised that they haven’t taken off in terms of collector demand and value- especially the low mintage 1997P from the Botanic Garden C+C set.
Major D,
I have always wondered the same. One would think the 1997P in MS69 would be worth more than $150 with a 25K mintage. The “MS70” is probably the investment grade.
There might be close to or less than 25K Jefferson Nickel collectors out there. Just a thought.
Those are beauts! I think you’re probably right about the number of Jefferson nickel collectors, but I’m proudly one of them. I have over a dozen full albums plus a trove of loose ones. Maybe they’ll be valued someday long after its discontinued- like the Buffalo nickel is today.
Major D,
Good for you for being a fellow Nickel collector, standing tall and proud in the face of the less so inspired. Nickels forever!
Major D,
Yes, in this hobby, hold time definitely equates to profits. Also, sounds like you suffer from the same affliction I have. Except my affliction is specifically with Kennedys and Lincoln Cents.
In a show of Numismatic Fellowship, I dug through the catacombs of my numismatic past and retrieved these special for you.
Cheers
Also Major D,
Any luck finding a “Speared Bison?” That one is on my list.
Peace Out
E 1,
Call me Mr. Picky if you will but here’s to you for not using “Buffalo”.
E 1,
I must say you do have some treasure-filled catacombs there!
Thank you Kaiser.
E 1,
Rather unfortunately but clearly inevitably so with hold time also comes one’s own age progression, so the two chronological imperatives would appear to be working counter-purposefully.
E 1,
A couple of real beauties there. I don’t understand why Nickels don’t have a bigger following; they are truly awesome coins!
The E1 collection of impressive coins runs deep with a lot of variety, thanks for another glimpse into the vault! Much appreciated! While certain coins that are struck in the tens of millions and then considered scarce or rare by some folks, I take pause. When coins that are struck in the thousands, or tens of thousands, I take notice and take it from there. Thanks Major D and E1 for the tip on the 97-P SMS nickel. Another impressive coin that you both have talked about is the 1998-S Silver Kennedy SMS Matte half dollar at well under 70k.… Read more »
Rick,
Here is another low mintage wonder that gets no respect. Only 16,812 struck. Not a buy recommendation, but a watch. The Presidential Dollar Program may run for an eternity. 50 years from now, 6 to 12 presidents later, collectors may start looking at the series with a different kind of eye.
Later
E 1,
Two points. First, that’s a great looking specimen from a series I’ve not given much thought to for whatever reason. Secondly, it just never occurred to me that the Presidential Dollar Series is totally open ended; we’ll never see an end to this one.
Good point, some things need to age gracefully & quietly. And before you know it, a desirable outcome is the result
Rick, E 1 and Major D, First, allow me to thank all three of you for the great discussions you engender and the huge amount of invaluable coin lore I acquire from said shared lore. Subsequently I find myself being struck by an apparent contradiction between how the US Mint seems to so often be under either suspicion or direct attack for not being able to put out the best quality coins while at the same time it’s abundantly clear to me that the three of you have over the years acquired some really fantastic examples of US Mint coinage.… Read more »
E 1 and Major D,
I simply never cease being amazed at how massive the difference in a coin’s price can be when one moves from the 69 to the 70 Grade.
Major D,
I get that. Matte, frosted and burnished are all very pleasing looks to me.
CaliSkier,
Advising folks here to ask Major D or me to tell them exactly how bad our reactions to the 2024 Silver Proof Sets were is more than likely to re-ignite our coin trauma!
Then perhaps, envisioning a trek or stroll on the John Muir portion of the PCT(Pacific Crest Trail), stretching from Yosemite Valley’s “Happy Isles” to Mt Whitney’s summit is in order, vs pondering one’s own PCT(Poignant Coin Trauma) Sir Kaiser? Just picture and think of snow capped peaks, pristine Alpine lakes, amongst the vast splendor of California’s glorious Sierra Nevada Mountain Range, until your coin woes subside!
“In every walk with Nature, one receives far more than he seeks.” John Muir April 21, 1838 – December 24, 1914
CaliSkier,
Some people choose the sea, others prefer the prairies or the plains, a few perhaps are called by the desert; I myself have always been captivated by the hills and the mountains, the meadows and the valleys.
P.S. note of a geographic nature. It may be somewhat surprising to learn, but Austria has more of the Alps mountain range within its national borders than does “mountainous” Switzerland. How about that, folks?
Walks are always good for the soul- and perspective I’d say.
Major D,
Especially so a walk in the quiet of the woods on a fern-lined path with the sun barely streaming through the tall trees. Sheer bliss.
Cali,
True Dat.
The greatest gift to receive in life is beauty and only those who have taste can receive it.
From time to time, a walkabout is best.
Peace Out
E 1,
I would submit that occasionally a walkabout of the mind fits the bill.
Cali we hiked it and got struck behind a mule train. Had to toss my boots a lot of road apples, more like road pineapple. Almost as bad a following the mules to Leper colony on Molokai
John Q. Coinage,
“Almost as bad as following the mules to Leper colony on Molokai”
Now there’s an image I’ve waited all my life to have in my head.
That’s right Kaiser. I’d say the silver Kennedy in a 70 is one to get. Forget about finding one yourself in a set.
Major D,
Sounds like good advice to me. Thanks!
Let it now officially be on the record, that Kaiser is considering purchasing a slabbed coin!
Rick,
Upon that mind-shattering pronouncement, the halls of Heaven itself are now shaking and Hell has proverbially frozen over.
Indeed, even the Red Sea has parted upon this thunderous revelation!
Rick,
That may well be the case, but since I absolutely dread deep water and never count on anything with absolute certainty I’m not taking one single solitary step into the dry gap!
For any that may be curious about those 2005-2010 Uncirculated coin sets and how they’re classified at PCGS, Jaime McMorrow Hernandez wrote: “The 2005-D Satin Finish Bison Nickel came in special mint sets. Therefore, most examples are very well struck and have been preserved in high grades. Most examples graded at PCGS, grade at about SP67 – SP68. Examples in SP69 or higher are scarce.”
https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/2005-d-5c-bison-satin-finish/94159
PS As Major D relayed, a MS69/70 or SP69,80 even a SMS69/70 for an uncirculated nickel is a Jackpot coin, if you find one!
CaliSkier,
This could be a sign to keep eyes wide open; perhaps one will turn up somewhere!
Eyes are now “wide open” Kaiser and I’ll for sure keep an eye out, for one of those “Special Strike” PCGS SP80’s I listed above! LOL None of us are immune to the occasional faux pas? LOL Good Luck and everyone has had a great and safe weekend! PS Keithster, Cag, James W, Jerry Diekman, Harry B, FM Transmitter, Gatortreke, Markpatbilljoedinosaur, Hidalgo, Gold Guru, Evil Flipper, Cleveland Rocks, VaRich, Captain Overkill, VA Bob, Hawkster, Dusty Roads, others I’ve missed, “Olly, Olly, Oxen Free”! Join us in commenting here on Coin News!
CaliSkier, I will admit I did notice the “SP69/80” reference but I quite purposely neglected to comment on it since I wasn’t sure if this was something I just wasn’t aware of and that displaying my unfamiliarity in regard to this mystery item could possibly have ended up having a slightly more embarrassing effect on me than not pointing out what after all amounted to no more than a very simple numerical error. Therefore, what we essentially have before us here is your original self-identified “faux pas” and my existential nail-biting over my non-response to it. Sheesh! As for the… Read more »
The Precious Metal Prices all jumped on the wrong elevator today: Going Down!
As I continue to accumulate coins and coin sets expanding my collection, I’m thinking more and more about the end game. At some point I know I have to stop buying cold turkey. So, I’ve begun to start valuing and targeting/prioritizing certain sets and coins for eBay. Someone here mentioned that he thought of himself merely as a caretaker of his coins. Was that you, Kaiser? In that vein, my plan is to start selling once I start retirement in a few years to have some supplemental dollars coming in- plus it gives me something to do! $400 per month… Read more »
Same here more or less, and that’s a lot of my reasoning for slabbing up my ogp stuff. In case I’m not around my family can easily liquidate those items.
I might even instruct them to sell at an auction house such as great collections because believe it or not, sellers get NO 1099 tax form, unlike eBay. At least that’s how I take it when looking at their FAQ, etc seller info…
The beauty of bequeathing (as I understand it) is that the heirs when they sell only pay taxes on the resale amount that’s over the appraised value at time of bequeathal. It looks to be a good way to leave a nice nest egg.
Yes a stepped up value. Harris seeks to make it go away to be acquisition basis. Gotta pay to house those numerous new “citizens” to be…
Uh-oh……
Yep.
What’s your source?
Major D,
I assume that’s a rhetorical question, because this one certainly isn’t hard to answer. Egad!
That has been my experience. My parents were farmers and each had part of the land in a trust. When each of them passed on we had to have their portion of the land appraised. When they both were gone and my sisters and I decided to sell the farm we only paid capital gains on the difference between the value of the farm at the time we inherited and the sale price. They originally bought the farm for 250$/acre and we sold it for $2000, If we had to pay the full gain the govt would have got a… Read more »
Thanks Lee and Major D.
It’s looking like a trust is in order for my heirs as long as the Gains tax % remains reasonable and not messed with.
If I need to sell something of substantial value, eBay just might be option #2 or 3 Im thinking….
Rick,
As long as you don’t sell your real estate on eBay; it would in all likelihood end up belonging to someone in Shanghai!
Major D,
“Someone here mentioned that he thought of himself merely as a caretaker of his coins. Was that you, Kaiser?”
Can’t say for certain if that was me, but it certainly does convey my sentiments.
I know that I did say I’ve cut down my purchases by well over 90%, so whatever I still buy is peanuts compared to how much I added to my collection in any typical prior year.
I stopped collecting the unc sets awhile back. $2.91= $29? in unc….. NOPE…… unless your in cahoots with the red book… the way i figured it using that….. if you are using it to do the math the set is worth around 30.60. Unless you get them in spectacular shape…these modern clad coins arent worth the purchase price anymore. I am just so frustrated with the hobby … i sooner try to find the coins as soon as i can when released into circulation….the old fashioned way which provides me satisfaction on the hunt for them.. At LEAST with silver… Read more »
Domenic Vaiasicca,
Great. I just received two of those Uncirculated Sets in the mail today, and now that I’ve read your opinion of them it’s taken all the fun away. Just kidding!
As to silver, it’s gotten far too expensive for my tastes. Additionally, with the considerable premium over spot that the Mint charges for silver it would be a long time before the silver value of the coins would exceed the original Mint purchase price.
Received my two US Mint Uncirculated Coin Sets yesterday. They are gorgeous!
Kaiser,
How do the Lincoln Cents look? Very shiny, highly reflective, and brilliant? Or flat, dullish, and textured?
Please advise.
E 1,
The former, most certainly, which is to say on the extremely bright and shiny side. These are all very well made coins, but they are definitely not of the matte, burnished, dull, or any such similar variety.
Congratulations Kaiser!
I’d say that you made a wise decision with this Mint purchase, and it’s great to hear that they are up to standards!
Rick,
Thank you very much, my friend!
I have a much better feeling about these two 2024 US Mint Uncirculated Coin Sets than I did regarding the 2023 and 2024 US MInt Silver Proof Sets whose appearance disappointed me.
Just as a footnote, the 2024 US Mint (Clad) Proof Set I received was also a nice buy. Further, is it just me, or is the San Francisco Mint possibly losing some of its traditional “superiority”?
Kaiser,
Thank you. Last year, the 2023 Lincoln cents I got from the mint set singles I purchased, the “D” mint was a solid PL and the “P” mint looked matte. When my 2024s arrive next week, I will post a photo both years.
E 1,
You are of course most welcome. Sounds like you hit the double jackpot with those two 2023 Lincoln Cents, what with obtaining one Proof Like and the other with a Matte Finish. It’s becoming ever more clear why you make this annual purchase in this particular manner. Kudos on all counts, my friend!
Just got mine today and yes they are beautiful.
Lee,
Congrats on receiving them and on their excellent condition, especially since it’s beginning to seem as though everyone wasn’t that lucky and/or satisfied with what they got from the Mint.
I’m just throwing a couple of ideas out there, but wouldn’t it be nice if the annual US Mint Uncirculated Coin Set also came in an Enhanced Uncirculated version and the US Mint Proof Set had a counterpart in a Reverse Proof iteration?
Sure absolutely, not every year, as the novelty could wear thin quickly. But a once-in-awhile version why not? Perhaps in 2026 with all of the other change-ups happening, or some other anniversary to be?
Rick,
Some of my mint singles came in today.
As for the mint set pennys….the D’s and Ps were similar. The photo below includes a D mint penny I got from the grocery store yesterday (left) and a D mint penny from the 2024 mint set. Both have spots and the finish on the mint set coin has a better finish but not proof like.
E 1,
Shows how much I know. My immediate impulse was to pick the Lincoln Cent on the left as the one from the 2024 Unc Mint Set simply because it’s shinier.
Rick,
Excellent point, as overdoing anything can take the singular pleasure out of it. Possibly every five or even more likely every ten years to keep it a special event.
To my fellow Lincoln Shield Cent Collectors, . The Lincoln Shield Series is nothing to sneeze at or sneeze on. This series is rich in low mintage rarities, surface finishes, and significant errors. The “Lincoln Memorial Series” was a long sleepy event with a few keys and the “Lincoln Shield Series” has had a much different dynamic. Specifically, upward, with a lot of key coins in short order. Additionally, in 2026, a guaranteed dual date Lincoln Shield Cent coin will join us. What a great series to live through and to collect. . The slabbing of the high-end Lincoln Shield… Read more »
I would estimate this entire album set to price out above $500.Not bad for a penny collection.
In for a penny, in for a pound, or in this case for a whole lot of them.
E 1,
I love the fact that you are so fluidly able to take a particular aspect of coin collecting that just might have escaped the attention, close or otherwise, of those among us who for whatever reason haven’t sufficiently kept our ears to the ground in that subject and proceed to prove yourself to be perfectly capable of and more than adequately equipped to not only fully explain but also thoroughly illustrate exactly why we possibly ought to take a deeper interest in this particular numismatic field for our own personal collecting benefit.
Thank you Kaiser.
You’re entirely welcome, E 1.
Just picked up a box of brand new shiny 2022s. I guess maybe I’ll get 2023s next year, and 2024s in 2026?
Major D,
As our favorite DJ Charles Laquidara regularly said as his daily sign-off on definitively groundbreaking WBCN 104.1 – Boston (America’s first AOL – Album Oriented Rock station), “If the creek don’t rise, if the Good Lord’s willing, and if there ain’t no meltdown”, then yes, there will indeed be another year to collect coins.