Flagship sets topped U.S. Mint sales for the week ending Oct. 13, with the 2024 Proof Set leading at 2,632 sold, followed by the uncirculated 2024 Mint Set at 1,132. In contrast, other numismatic products in the top ten saw more subdued sales figures.
Meanwhile, one month has passed since the U.S. Mint released the 2024-S Proof Morgan and Peace Silver Dollars, making it an ideal time to evaluate their performance — especially given the 2024-S Proof Peace Silver Dollar has seen two consecutive weekly declines (-13,391 and now -4,382), while the 2024-S Proof Morgan Silver Dollar registered only a modest weekly gain (+48) after experiencing a drop in the previous week (-20,127).
Breaking down the numbers, sales of the 2024-S Proof Morgan Silver Dollar now stand at 175,137 coins, with 163,057 from the standalone option and 12,080 coins (302 units) from the bulk option. In comparison, last year’s proof Morgan logged one-month sales of 328,568 coins, including 310,848 from the standalone option and 17,720 coins (443 units) from the bulk option.
The 2024-S Proof Peace Silver Dollar posted updated sales of 160,285 coins, with 148,205 from the standalone option and 12,080 coins (302 units) from the bulk option. By contrast, last year’s proof Peace dollar recorded one-month sales of 305,156 coins, including 287,636 from the standalone option and 17,520 coins (438 units) from the bulk option.
U.S. Mint Top Sellers
Here is the roster of the U.S. Mint’s most sought-after numismatic products for the week ending on Oct. 13:
- 2024 Proof Set (+2,632 to 302,224)
- 2024 Mint Set (+1,132 to 140,831)
- 2024 Silver Proof Set (+769 to 148,022)
- 2023 Limited Edition Silver Proof Set (+333 to 27,835)
- 2024-S Proof Silver Eagle (+326 to 114,708)
- 2024-W Proof Silver Eagle (+299 to 273,796)
- 2024 American Innovation Dollar Proof Set (+210 to 52,251)
- 2021 Silver Proof Set (+194 to 306,045)
- 2024-P Uncirculated Morgan Silver Dollar (+164 to 161,312)
- 2024 U.S. Mint Ornament (+163 to 3,507)
In its latest report, the U.S. Mint published sales data for 494 numismatic products. The data revealed that 61 products outperformed their sales from the previous week, compared to 68 in the prior report. Two products experienced a week-over-week increase of more than 1,000 units, compared to 3 in the previous report.
Additionally, 7 products posted negative weekly sales, up from 2 in the previous report. All the reductions were modest, except for the previously mentioned 2024-S Proof Peace Silver Dollar.
US Mint Sales: Numismatic Products
Below are tables showing the latest available sales for U.S. Mint numismatic products. The sales period covers from Oct. 7 to Oct. 13
. Products with an asterisk (*) are no longer available or had no reported sales.
2024 Commemorative Coins |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
2024-S Proof Greatest Generation Half Dollar | 17,933 | 18,017 | 84 | 0.47% |
2024-D Uncirculated Greatest Generation Half Dollar | 7,541 | 7,581 | 40 | 0.53% |
2024-P Proof Greatest Generation Silver Dollar | 30,636 | 30,787 | 151 | 0.49% |
2024-P Uncirculated Greatest Generation Silver Dollar | 10,151 | 10,202 | 51 | 0.50% |
2024-W Proof Greatest Generation $5 Gold Coin | 1,489 | 1,493 | 4 | 0.27% |
2024-W Uncirculated Greatest Generation $5 Gold Coin | 1,154 | 1,159 | 5 | 0.43% |
2024 Greatest Generation Three-Coin Proof Set | 4,367 | 4,384 | 17 | 0.39% |
2024-S Proof Harriet Tubman Half Dollar | 12,728 | 12,750 | 22 | 0.17% |
2024-D Uncirculated Harriet Tubman Half Dollar | 6,458 | 6,477 | 19 | 0.29% |
2024-P Proof Harriet Tubman Silver Dollar | 20,084 | 20,147 | 63 | 0.31% |
2024-P Uncirculated Harriet Tubman Silver Dollar | 6,962 | 6,983 | 21 | 0.30% |
2024-W Proof Harriet Tubman $5 Gold Coin | 1,547 | 1,547 | – | – |
2024-W Uncirculated Harriet Tubman $5 Gold Coin | 1,196 | 1,201 | 5 | 0.42% |
2024 Harriet Tubman Three-Coin Proof Set | 4,133 | 4,143 | 10 | 0.24% |
Morgan & Peace Silver Dollars |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
2024-S Proof Morgan Silver Dollar | 163,009 | 163,057 | 48 | 0.03% |
2024-S Proof Morgan Silver Dollar (Bulk – 40 Coins) | 302 | 302 | – | – |
2024-S Proof Peace Silver Dollar | 152,587 | 148,205 | -4,382 | -2.87% |
2024-S Proof Peace Silver Dollar (Bulk – 40 Coins) | 302 | 302 | – | – |
2024-P Uncirculated Morgan Silver Dollar | 161,148 | 161,312 | 164 | 0.10% |
2024-P Uncirculated Morgan Silver Dollar (40 – Bulk) | 316 | 316 | – | – |
2024-P Uncirculated Peace Silver Dollar | 154,178 | 154,283 | 105 | 0.07% |
2024-P Uncirculated Peace Silver Dollar (40 – Bulk) | 309 | 309 | – | – |
2023-S Morgan & Peace Silver Dollar Reverse Proof Set | 247,820 | 247,820 | – | – |
2023-S Proof Morgan Silver Dollar | 359,894 | 359,956 | 62 | 0.02% |
2023-S Proof Morgan Silver Dollar (Bulk – 40 Coins) | 443 | 443 | – | – |
2023-S Proof Peace Silver Dollar | 326,060 | 326,093 | 33 | 0.01% |
2023-S Proof Peace Silver Dollar (Bulk – 40 Coins) | 438 | 438 | – | – |
2023-P Uncirculated Morgan Silver Dollar | 260,527 | 260,527 | – | – |
2023-P Uncirculated Morgan Silver Dollar (40 – Bulk) | 330 | 330 | – | – |
2023-P Uncirculated Peace Silver Dollar | 260,474 | 260,474 | – | – |
2023-P Uncirculated Peace Silver Dollar (40 – Bulk) | 338 | 338 | – | – |
2024 Liberty & Britannia |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
2024-W Liberty & Britannia Gold Coin | 5,549 | 5,549 | – | – |
2024-P Liberty & Britannia Silver Medal | 33,180 | 33,183 | 3 | 0.01% |
Armed Forces Silver Medals |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
U.S. Army 2.5 Ounce Silver Medal | 9,988 | 9,988 | – | – |
U.S. Marine Corps 2.5 Ounce Silver Medal | 9,988 | 9,988 | – | – |
U.S. Navy 2.5 Ounce Silver Medal | 9,987 | 9,987 | – | – |
U.S. Coast Guard 2.5 Ounce Silver Medal | 9,955 | 9,955 | – | – |
U.S. Air Force 2.5 Ounce Silver Medal | 9,953 | 9,953 | – | – |
U.S. Army 1 Ounce Silver Medal | 16,816 | 16,865 | 49 | 0.29% |
U.S. Marine Corps 1 Ounce Silver Medal | 20,610 | 20,635 | 25 | 0.12% |
U.S. Navy 1 Ounce Silver Medal | 22,538 | 22,575 | 37 | 0.16% |
U.S. Coast Guard 1 Ounce Silver Medal | 18,687 | 18,696 | 9 | 0.05% |
U.S. Air Force 1 Ounce Silver Medal | 21,933 | 21,948 | 15 | 0.07% |
American Liberty Products |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
2023-W $100 American Liberty Gold Coin | 12,188 | 12,188 | – | – |
2023-P American Liberty Silver Medal | 34,861 | 34,946 | 85 | 0.24% |
2022-P American Liberty Silver Medal | 74,415 | 74,415 | – | – |
2021-W $100 American Liberty Gold Coin | 12,471 | 12,471 | – | – |
2019-W $100 American Liberty Gold Coin | 24,609 | 24,609 | – | – |
2019-P American Liberty Silver Medal | 44,928 | 44,928 | – | – |
2018-W $10 American Liberty Gold Coin | 69,851 | 69,881 | 30 | 0.04% |
2017 American Liberty Silver Four-Medal Set* | 32,647 | 32,647 | – | – |
2017-S Enhanced Uncirculated Coin Set* | 210,419 | 210,419 | – | – |
2017-W $100 American Liberty Gold Coin | 49,705 | 49,700 | -5 | -0.01% |
2017-P Proof American Liberty Silver Medal* | 55,187 | 55,187 | – | – |
Clad Proof Sets |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
2024 Proof Set | 299,592 | 302,224 | 2,632 | 0.88% |
2023 Proof Set* | 369,233 | 369,233 | – | – |
2022 Proof Set* | 400,001 | 400,001 | – | – |
2021 Proof Set* | 512,866 | 512,866 | – | – |
2020 Proof Set* | 464,730 | 464,730 | – | – |
2019 Proof Set* | 601,364 | 601,364 | – | – |
2018 Proof Set* | 517,081 | 517,081 | – | – |
2017 Proof Set* | 568,678 | 568,678 | – | – |
2024 American Innovation Dollars Proof Set | 52,041 | 52,251 | 210 | 0.40% |
2023 American Innovation Dollars Proof Set | 57,835 | 57,885 | 50 | 0.09% |
2022 American Innovation Dollars Proof Set | 82,048 | 82,093 | 45 | 0.05% |
2021 American Innovation Dollars Proof Set | 88,529 | 88,552 | 23 | 0.03% |
2020 American Innovation Dollars Proof Set | 108,409 | 108,407 | -2 | 0.00% |
2019 American Innovation Dollars Proof Set | 149,894 | 149,892 | -2 | 0.00% |
2024 American Women Quarters Proof Set | 44,238 | 44,373 | 135 | 0.31% |
2023 American Women Quarters Proof Set | 57,685 | 57,716 | 31 | 0.05% |
2022 American Women Quarters Proof Set* | 42,821 | 42,821 | – | – |
2020 America the Beautiful Quarters Proof Set* | 64,242 | 64,242 | – | – |
2019 America the Beautiful Quarters Proof Set | 84,697 | 84,697 | – | – |
2018 America the Beautiful Quarters Proof Set* | 86,697 | 86,697 | – | – |
Silver Proof Sets |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
2024 Silver Proof Set | 147,253 | 148,022 | 769 | 0.52% |
2023 Silver Proof Set | 194,732 | 194,777 | 45 | 0.02% |
2022 Silver Proof Set* | 249,373 | 249,373 | – | – |
2021 Silver Proof Set* | 305,851 | 306,045 | 194 | 0.06% |
2020 Silver Proof Set* | 313,183 | 313,183 | – | – |
2019 Silver Proof Set* | 415,384 | 415,384 | – | – |
2018 Silver Proof Set* | 332,273 | 332,273 | – | – |
2018 Silver Reverse Proof Set* | 199,116 | 199,116 | – | – |
2024 American Women Quarters Silver Proof Set | 32,920 | 32,968 | 48 | 0.15% |
2023 American Women Quarters Silver Proof Set | 45,622 | 45,630 | 8 | 0.02% |
2022 American Women Quarters Silver Proof Set | 57,724 | 57,724 | – | – |
2020 America the Beautiful Quarters Silver Proof Set* | 64,012 | 64,012 | – | – |
2019 America the Beautiful Quarters Silver Proof Set* | 78,588 | 78,588 | – | – |
2018 America the Beautiful Quarters Silver Proof Set* | 79,301 | 79,301 | – | – |
2024 Congratulations Gift Set | 25,308 | 25,343 | 35 | 0.14% |
2023 Congratulations Gift Set | 39,284 | 39,284 | – | – |
2022 Congratulations Gift Set | 29,710 | 29,710 | – | – |
2021 Congratulations Gift Set* | 39,997 | 39,997 | – | – |
2020 Congratulations Gift Set* | 24,468 | 24,468 | – | – |
2019 Congratulations Gift Set* | 31,638 | 31,638 | – | – |
2023 Limited Edition Silver Proof Set | 27,502 | 27,835 | 333 | 1.21% |
2022 Limited Edition Silver Proof Set | 49,728 | 49,728 | – | – |
2021 Limited Edition Silver Proof Set | 49,852 | 49,852 | – | – |
2020 Limited Edition Silver Proof Set* | 50,061 | 50,061 | – | – |
US Mint Uncirculated Sets |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
2024 Uncirculated Mint Set | 139,699 | 140,831 | 1,132 | 0.81% |
2023 Uncirculated Mint Set | 184,197 | 184,246 | 49 | 0.03% |
2022 Uncirculated Mint Set* | 249,932 | 249,932 | – | – |
2021 Uncirculated Mint Set | 231,781 | 231,859 | 78 | 0.03% |
2020 Uncirculated Mint Set* | 211,787 | 211,787 | – | – |
2019 Uncirculated Mint Set* | 346,117 | 346,117 | – | – |
2018 Uncirculated Mint Set* | 257,536 | 257,536 | – | – |
2017 Uncirculated Mint Set* | 286,813 | 286,813 | – | – |
Kids Coin Sets |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
2019 Youth Coin and Currency Set | 24,889 | 24,889 | – | – |
2019 Explore and Discover Coin Set | 44,922 | 44,937 | 15 | 0.03% |
2019 Rocketship* | 49,921 | 49,921 | – | – |
2014 Coin Discovery Set* | 13,151 | 13,151 | – | – |
Ornaments |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
2024 Mighty Minters Ornament | 2,211 | 2,269 | 58 | 2.62% |
2024 U.S. Mint Ornament | 3,344 | 3,507 | 163 | 4.87% |
2024 Rev. Dr. Pauli Murray Ornament | 802 | 805 | 3 | 0.37% |
2024 Patsy Takemoto Mink Ornament | 819 | 822 | 3 | 0.37% |
2024 Dr. Mary Edwards Walker Ornament | 857 | 859 | 2 | 0.23% |
2024 Celia Cruz Ornament | 1,685 | 1,713 | 28 | 1.66% |
2024 Zitkala-Ša Ornament | 803 | 804 | 1 | 0.12% |
2023 U.S. Mint Ornament | 5,162 | 5,175 | 13 | 0.25% |
2023 Mighty Minters Ornament | 3,137 | 3,142 | 5 | 0.16% |
2022 U.S. Mint Ornament | 5,874 | 5,882 | 8 | 0.14% |
2022 Mighty Minters Ornament | 4,183 | 4,188 | 5 | 0.12% |
2023 Bessie Coleman Ornament | 1,279 | 1,280 | 1 | 0.08% |
2023 Edith Kanakaʻole Ornament; | 1,462 | 1,463 | 1 | 0.07% |
2023 Eleanor Roosevelt Ornament | 1,786 | 1,789 | 3 | 0.17% |
2023 Jovita Idar Ornament | 1,291 | 1,292 | 1 | 0.08% |
2023 Maria Tallchief Ornament | 1,516 | 1,517 | 1 | 0.07% |
2022 Maya Angelou Ornament | 3,386 | 3,387 | 1 | 0.03% |
2022 Dr. Sally Ride Ornament | 3,474 | 3,475 | 1 | 0.03% |
2022 Wilma Mankiller Ornament | 2,376 | 2,377 | 1 | 0.04% |
2022 Nina Otero-Warren Ornament | 1,855 | 1,856 | 1 | 0.05% |
2022 Anna May Wong Ornament | 3,317 | 3,317 | – | – |
2021 Mighty Minters Ornament | 4,821 | 4,821 | – | – |
2021 U.S. Mint Ornament | 7,969 | 7,969 | – | – |
2020 Mighty Minters Ornament | 4,588 | 4,588 | – | – |
2020 U.S. Mint Ornament | 6,712 | 6,712 | – | – |
2019 Mighty Minters Ornament | 7,105 | 7,105 | – | – |
2019 U.S. Mint Ornament | 11,986 | 11,986 | – | – |
Proof & Reverse Proof Silver Eagles |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
2024-S Proof Silver Eagle | 114,382 | 114,708 | 326 | 0.29% |
2024-S Proof Silver Eagle (Bulk – 40 Coins) | 915 | 915 | – | – |
2024-W Proof Silver Eagle | 273,497 | 273,796 | 299 | 0.11% |
2024-W Proof Silver Eagle (Bulk – 40 Coins) | 1,543 | 1,543 | – | – |
2023-S Proof Silver Eagle | 182,146 | 182,186 | 40 | 0.02% |
2023-S Proof Silver Eagle (Bulk – 40 Coins) | 743 | 743 | – | – |
2022-S Proof Silver Eagle | 199,698 | 199,698 | – | – |
2022-S Proof Silver Eagle (Bulk – 40 Coins) | 2,925 | 2,925 | – | – |
2023-W Proof Silver Eagle | 436,484 | 436,484 | – | – |
2023-W Proof Silver Eagle (Bulk – 40 Coins) | 2,118 | 2,118 | – | – |
2022-W Proof Silver Eagle | 496,994 | 496,994 | – | – |
2022-W Proof Silver Eagle (Bulk – 40 Coins) | 4,171 | 4,171 | – | – |
2021 Reverse Proof American Silver Eagle Two-Coin Set* | 124,916 | 124,916 | – | – |
2021-S Proof Silver Eagle, Type 2* | 199,744 | 199,744 | – | – |
2021-S Proof Silver Eagle, Type 2 (Bulk – 40 Coins)* | 652 | 652 | – | – |
2021-W Proof Silver Eagle, Type 2* | 300,096 | 300,096 | – | – |
2021-W Proof Silver Eagle, Type 2 (Bulk – 40 Coins)* | 2,142 | 2,142 | – | – |
2021-W Proof Silver Eagle, Type 1* | 299,898 | 299,898 | – | – |
2021-W Proof Silver Eagle, Type 1 (Bulk – 40 Coins)* | 686 | 686 | – | – |
Uncirculated Silver Eagles |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
2024 | 92,109 | 92,201 | 92 | 0.10% |
2023 | 139,350 | 139,366 | 16 | 0.01% |
2022 | 172,812 | 172,838 | 26 | 0.02% |
2022 Bulk 40 | 989 | 989 | – | – |
2021* | 174,933 | 174,933 | – | – |
2021 Bulk 40* | 324 | 324 | – | – |
2024 Proof American Eagle Gold Coins |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
1 oz | 3,031 | 3,041 | 10 | 0.33% |
1/2 oz | 1,469 | 1,485 | 16 | 1.09% |
1/4 oz | 4,732 | 4,752 | 20 | 0.42% |
1/10 oz | 8,095 | 8,157 | 62 | 0.77% |
4-Coin Set | 4,483 | 4,487 | 4 | 0.09% |
2023 Proof American Eagle Gold Coins |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
1 oz | 6,478 | 6,478 | – | – |
1/2 oz | 2,011 | 2,011 | – | – |
1/4 oz | 4,492 | 4,492 | – | – |
1/10 oz | 13,424 | 13,424 | – | – |
4-Coin Set | 9,981 | 9,981 | – | – |
2022 Proof American Eagle Gold Coins |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
1 oz | 5,913 | 5,913 | – | – |
1/2 oz | 1,970 | 1,970 | – | – |
1/4 oz | 4,464 | 4,464 | – | – |
1/10 oz | 13,806 | 13,806 | – | – |
4-Coin Set | 9,906 | 9,906 | – | – |
Uncirculated American Eagle Gold Coins |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
2024 | 2,582 | 2,585 | 3 | 0.12% |
2023 | 6,483 | 6,486 | 3 | 0.05% |
2022 | 8,899 | 8,899 | – | – |
2021* | 9,063 | 9,063 | – | – |
2020* | 6,284 | 6,284 | – | – |
2019* | 5,851 | 5,851 | – | – |
Proof American Buffalo Gold Coins |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
2024 Proof Gold Buffalo | 7,884 | 7,918 | 34 | 0.43% |
2023 Proof Gold Buffalo | 15,711 | 15,710 | -1 | -0.01% |
2022 Proof Gold Buffalo | 15,943 | 15,943 | – | – |
2021 Proof Gold Buffalo* | 16,976 | 16,976 | – | – |
2020 Proof Gold Buffalo* | 11,887 | 11,887 | – | – |
2019 Proof Gold Buffalo* | 14,844 | 14,844 | – | – |
Barbara Bush First Spouse Gold Coins |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
2020-W Proof | 2,967 | 2,967 | – | – |
2020-W Uncirculated | 1,969 | 1,969 | – | – |
Proof American Platinum Eagle |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
2024 | 4,913 | 4,918 | 5 | 0.10% |
2023 | 8,437 | 8,437 | – | – |
2022 | 9,942 | 9,942 | – | – |
2021 | 9,884 | 9,884 | – | – |
2020 | 9,835 | 9,835 | – | – |
2019 | 11,268 | 11,268 | – | – |
2018 | 16,185 | 16,185 | – | – |
2017* | 8,890 | 8,890 | – | – |
American Palladium Eagle |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
2024-W Proof | 2,830 | 2,855 | 25 | 0.88% |
2023-W Uncirculated | 5,768 | 5,770 | 2 | 0.03% |
2022-W Reverse Proof | 7,397 | 7,397 | – | – |
2021-W Proof | 5,170 | 5,170 | – | – |
2020-W Uncirculated | 9,746 | 9,746 | – | – |
2019-W Reverse Proof | 18,839 | 18,839 | – | – |
2018-W Proof* | 14,986 | 14,986 | – | – |
Presidential Silver Medals |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
2024 Grover Cleveland Presidential Silver Medal | 13,784 | 13,880 | 96 | 0.70% |
2024 Chester A. Arthur Presidential Silver Medal | 10,627 | 10,659 | 32 | 0.30% |
2024 James A. Garfield Presidential Silver Medal | 11,477 | 11,498 | 21 | 0.18% |
2024 Rutherford B. Hayes Presidential Silver Medal | 11,695 | 11,706 | 11 | 0.09% |
2023 Ulysses S. Grant Presidential Silver Medal | 13,693 | 13,697 | 4 | 0.03% |
2023 Andrew Johnson Presidential Silver Medal | 12,676 | 12,680 | 4 | 0.03% |
2023 Abraham Lincoln Presidential Silver Medal | 19,435 | 19,446 | 11 | 0.06% |
2023 James Buchanan Presidential Silver Medal | 12,463 | 12,464 | 1 | 0.01% |
2021 Franklin Pierce Presidential Silver Medal | 12,693 | 12,694 | 1 | 0.01% |
2022 Millard Fillmore Presidential Silver Medal | 12,804 | 12,805 | 1 | 0.01% |
2022 Zachary Taylor Presidential Silver Medal | 13,191 | 13,195 | 4 | 0.03% |
2022 James Knox Polk Presidential Silver Medal | 13,430 | 13,431 | 1 | 0.01% |
2021 John Tyler Presidential Silver Medal | 13,817 | 13,818 | 1 | 0.01% |
2021 William Henry Harrison Presidential Silver Medal | 13,785 | 13,786 | 1 | 0.01% |
2021 Martin Van Buren Presidential Silver Medal | 13,924 | 13,924 | – | – |
2020 Andrew Jackson Presidential Silver Medal | 16,855 | 16,856 | 1 | 0.01% |
2019 John Quincy Adams Presidential Silver Medal | 14,995 | 14,997 | 2 | 0.01% |
2019 James Monroe Presidential Silver Medal | 15,453 | 15,457 | 4 | 0.03% |
2019 James Madison Presidential Silver Medal | 17,123 | 17,126 | 3 | 0.02% |
2019 Thomas Jefferson Presidential Silver Medal | 24,586 | 24,588 | 2 | 0.01% |
2018 George Washington Presidential Silver Medal | 35,744 | 35,752 | 8 | 0.02% |
2018 John Adams Presidential Silver Medal | 23,874 | 23,877 | 3 | 0.01% |
American Innovation Reverse Proof Sets |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
2023 | 39,043 | 39,069 | 26 | 0.07% |
2022 | 49,791 | 49,792 | 1 | 0.00% |
2021 | 49,815 | 49,815 | – | – |
2024 American Innovation Dollars – Missouri |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
25-coin roll set (P) | 7,082 | 7,107 | 25 | 0.35% |
25-coin roll set (D) | 6,492 | 6,510 | 18 | 0.28% |
100-coin bag (P) | 2,828 | 2,835 | 7 | 0.25% |
100-coin bag (D) | 1,818 | 1,832 | 14 | 0.77% |
2024 American Innovation Dollars – Maine |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
25-coin roll set (P) | 7,821 | 7,829 | 8 | 0.10% |
25-coin roll set (D) | 6,919 | 6,933 | 14 | 0.20% |
100-coin bag (P) | 2,679 | 2,688 | 9 | 0.34% |
100-coin bag (D) | 2,031 | 2,039 | 8 | 0.39% |
2024 American Innovation Dollars – Alabama |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
25-coin roll set (P) | 8,384 | 8,384 | – | – |
25-coin roll set (D) | 7,443 | 7,443 | – | – |
100-coin bag (P) | 3,149 | 3,149 | – | – |
100-coin bag (D) | 2,948 | 2,948 | – | – |
2024 American Innovation Dollars – Illinois |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
25-coin roll set (P) | 8,018 | 8,033 | 15 | 0.19% |
25-coin roll set (D) | 7,324 | 7,324 | – | – |
100-coin bag (P) | 2,303 | 2,307 | 4 | 0.17% |
100-coin bag (D) | 2,304 | 2,308 | 4 | 0.17% |
2023 American Innovation Dollars – Mississippi |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
25-coin roll set (P) | 7,952 | 7,953 | 1 | 0.01% |
25-coin roll set (D) | 6,883 | 6,883 | – | – |
100-coin bag (P) | 2,295 | 2,299 | 4 | 0.17% |
100-coin bag (D) | 2,331 | 2,339 | 8 | 0.34% |
2023 American Innovation Dollars – Indiana |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
25-coin roll set (P) | 8,022 | 8,022 | – | – |
25-coin roll set (D) | 6,994 | 6,994 | – | – |
100-coin bag (P) | 3,008 | 3,008 | – | – |
100-coin bag (D) | 2,794 | 2,794 | – | – |
2023 American Innovation Dollars – Louisiana |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
25-coin roll set (P) | 7,993 | 7,993 | – | – |
25-coin roll set (D) | 6,990 | 6,990 | – | – |
100-coin bag (P) | 2,971 | 2,971 | – | – |
100-coin bag (D) | 2,750 | 2,750 | – | – |
2023 American Innovation Dollars – Ohio |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
25-coin roll set (P) | 8,016 | 8,016 | – | – |
25-coin roll set (D) | 6,978 | 6,978 | – | – |
100-coin bag (P) | 2,967 | 2,968 | 1 | 0.03% |
100-coin bag (D) | 2,744 | 2,744 | – | – |
2022 American Innovation Dollars – Tennessee |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
25-coin roll set (P) | 7,014 | 7,014 | – | – |
25-coin roll set (D) | 7,010 | 7,010 | – | – |
100-coin bag (P) | 2,781 | 2,785 | 4 | 0.14% |
100-coin bag (D) | 2,786 | 2,786 | – | – |
2022 American Innovation Dollars – Kentucky |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
25-coin roll set (P) | 7,009 | 7,009 | – | – |
25-coin roll set (D) | 7,002 | 7,002 | – | – |
100-coin bag (P) | 2,771 | 2,771 | – | – |
100-coin bag (D) | 2,779 | 2,779 | – | – |
2022 American Innovation Dollars – Vermont |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
25-coin roll set (P) | 7,023 | 7,023 | – | – |
25-coin roll set (D) | 7,011 | 7,011 | – | – |
100-coin bag (P) | 2,787 | 2,787 | – | – |
100-coin bag (D) | 2,778 | 2,778 | – | – |
2022 American Innovation Dollars – Rhode Island |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
25-coin roll set (P) | 7,010 | 7,010 | – | – |
25-coin roll set (D) | 7,007 | 7,007 | – | – |
100-coin bag (P) | 2,789 | 2,789 | – | – |
100-coin bag (D) | 2,787 | 2,787 | – | – |
2021 American Innovation Dollars – North Carolina |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
25-coin roll set (P) | 7,010 | 7,010 | – | – |
25-coin roll set (D) | 7,018 | 7,018 | – | – |
100-coin bag (P) | 2,789 | 2,789 | – | – |
100-coin bag (D) | 2,790 | 2,790 | – | – |
2021 American Innovation Dollars – New York |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
25-coin roll set (P) | 7,006 | 7,006 | – | – |
25-coin roll set (D) | 7,013 | 7,013 | – | – |
100-coin bag (P) | 2,786 | 2,786 | – | – |
100-coin bag (D) | 2,785 | 2,785 | – | – |
2021 American Innovation Dollars – Virginia |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
25-coin roll set (P) | 7,015 | 7,015 | – | – |
25-coin roll set (D) | 7,010 | 7,010 | – | – |
100-coin bag (P) | 2,796 | 2,796 | – | – |
100-coin bag (D) | 2,786 | 2,786 | – | – |
2021 American Innovation Dollars – New Hampshire |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
25-coin roll set (P) | 7,017 | 7,017 | – | – |
25-coin roll set (D) | 7,017 | 7,017 | – | – |
100-coin bag (P) | 2,789 | 2,789 | – | – |
100-coin bag (D) | 2,790 | 2,790 | – | – |
2020 American Innovation Dollars – South Carolina |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
Reverse Proof (S) | 43,210 | 43,227 | 17 | 0.04% |
25-coin roll set (P) | 6,378 | 6,378 | – | – |
25-coin roll set (D) | 6,399 | 6,399 | – | – |
100-coin bag (P) | 2,734 | 2,734 | – | – |
100-coin bag (D) | 2,378 | 2,378 | – | – |
2020 American Innovation Dollars – Maryland |
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Old
Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
Reverse Proof (S) | 49,852 | 49,852 | – | – |
25-coin roll set (P) | 6,493 | 6,493 | – | – |
25-coin roll set (D) | 6,471 | 6,471 | – | – |
100-coin bag (P) | 2,725 | 2,725 | – | – |
100-coin bag (D) | 2,737 | 2,737 | – | – |
2020 American Innovation Dollars – Massachusetts |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
Reverse Proof (S) | 49,785 | 49,785 | – | – |
25-coin roll set (P) | 6,486 | 6,486 | – | – |
25-coin roll set (D) | 6,481 | 6,481 | – | – |
100-coin bag (P) | 2,746 | 2,746 | – | – |
100-coin bag (D) | 2,744 | 2,744 | – | – |
2020 American Innovation Dollars – Connecticut |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
Reverse Proof (S) | 47,526 | 47,535 | 9 | 0.02% |
25-coin roll set (P) | 6,496 | 6,496 | – | – |
25-coin roll set (D) | 6,425 | 6,425 | – | – |
100-coin bag (P) | 2,736 | 2,736 | – | – |
100-coin bag (D) | 2,747 | 2,747 | – | – |
2019 American Innovation Dollars – Georgia |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
Reverse Proof (S) | 47,833 | 47,851 | 18 | 0.04% |
25-coin roll set (P) | 8,092 | 8,092 | – | – |
25-coin roll set (D) | 7,542 | 7,542 | – | – |
100-coin bag (P) | 3,459 | 3,459 | – | – |
100-coin bag (D) | 3,554 | 3,559 | 5 | 0.14% |
2019 American Innovation Dollars – New Jersey |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
Reverse Proof (S) | 52,559 | 52,571 | 12 | 0.02% |
25-coin roll set (P) | 9,103 | 9,103 | – | – |
25-coin roll set (D) | 8,043 | 8,043 | – | – |
100-coin bag (P) | 3,941 | 3,941 | – | – |
100-coin bag (D) | 3,586 | 3,586 | – | – |
2019 American Innovation Dollars – Pennsylvania |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
Reverse Proof (S) | 55,998 | 56,008 | 10 | 0.02% |
25-coin roll set (P) | 10,458 | 10,458 | – | – |
25-coin roll set (D) | 8,536 | 8,536 | – | – |
100-coin bag (P) | 3,689 | 3,689 | – | – |
100-coin bag (D) | 3,055 | 3,055 | – | – |
2019 American Innovation Dollars – Delaware |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
Reverse Proof (S) | 71,336 | 71,349 | 13 | 0.02% |
25-coin roll set (P) | 9,108 | 9,108 | – | – |
25-coin roll set (D) | 8,372 | 8,372 | – | – |
100-coin bag (P) | 3,203 | 3,203 | – | – |
100-coin bag (D) | 3,385 | 3,385 | – | – |
2018 American Innovation Dollars |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
Reverse Proof (S)* | 74,720 | 74,720 | – | – |
Proof Coin (S) | 255,450 | 255,448 | -2 | 0.00% |
25-coin roll set (P) | 22,902 | 22,902 | – | – |
25-coin roll set (D) | 25,725 | 25,725 | – | – |
100-coin bag (P)* | 2,935 | 2,935 | – | – |
100-coin bag (D)* | 2,954 | 2,954 | – | – |
George H.W. Bush Coin & Chronicles Set |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
$1 Coin & Set | 11,521 | 11,521 | – | – |
2020 Bush Presidential $1 Coin & First Spouse Medal Set |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
$1 Coin & Set | 9,876 | 9,876 | – | – |
2020 George H.W. Bush Presidential $1 Coins |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
25-coin roll (P) | 24,922 | 24,922 | – | – |
25-coin roll (D) | 24,739 | 24,793 | 54 | 0.22% |
100-coin bag (P) | 2,695 | 2,695 | – | – |
100-coin bag (D) | 2,098 | 2,098 | – | – |
250-coin bag (P) | 4,169 | 4,173 | 4 | 0.10% |
250-coin bag (D) | 5,483 | 5,482 | -1 | -0.02% |
Native American Dollar Rolls |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
2024-P Native American $1 25 Coin Roll | 13,761 | 13,823 | 62 | 0.45% |
2024-D Native American $1 25 Coin Roll | 13,170 | 13,247 | 77 | 0.58% |
2024-P Native American $1 100-Coin Bag | 1,746 | 1,746 | – | – |
2024-D Native American $1 100-Coin Bag | 1,846 | 1,846 | – | – |
2024-P Native American $1 250-Coin Box | 1,085 | 1,089 | 4 | 0.37% |
2024-D Native American $1 250-Coin Box | 1,097 | 1,109 | 12 | 1.09% |
2023-P Native American $1 25 Coin Roll | 13,922 | 13,922 | – | – |
2023-D Native American $1 25 Coin Roll | 13,954 | 13,954 | – | – |
2023-P Native American $1 100-Coin Bag | 1,695 | 1,695 | – | – |
2023-D Native American $1 100-Coin Bag | 1,694 | 1,694 | – | – |
2023-P Native American $1 250-Coin Box | 1,654 | 1,663 | 9 | 0.54% |
2023-D Native American $1 250-Coin Box | 1,618 | 1,618 | – | – |
2022-P Native American $1 25 Coin Roll | 13,996 | 13,996 | – | – |
2022-D Native American $1 25 Coin Roll | 13,965 | 13,965 | – | – |
2022-P Native American $1 100-Coin Bag | 1,699 | 1,699 | – | – |
2022-D Native American $1 100-Coin Bag | 1,614 | 1,614 | – | – |
2022-P Native American $1 250-Coin Box | 1,698 | 1,698 | – | – |
2022-D Native American $1 250-Coin Box | 1,699 | 1,699 | – | – |
Kennedy Half Dollar Rolls |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
2024-dated 200-coin bag (P&D) | 7,267 | 7,340 | 73 | 1.00% |
2024-dated 2-roll set (P&D) | 26,253 | 26,255 | 2 | 0.01% |
2023-dated 200-coin bag (P&D) | 11,166 | 11,166 | – | – |
2023-dated 2-roll set (P&D) | 24,987 | 24,987 | – | – |
2022-dated 200-coin bag (P&D) | 10,999 | 10,999 | – | – |
2022-dated 2-roll set (P&D) | 21,926 | 21,926 | – | – |
2021-dated 200-coin bag (P&D)* | 9,976 | 9,976 | – | – |
2021-dated 2-roll set (P&D)* | 21,989 | 21,989 | – | – |
2020-dated 200-coin bag (P&D)* | 11,776 | 11,776 | – | – |
2020-dated 2-roll set (P&D)* | 24,312 | 24,312 | – | – |
2019-dated 200-coin bag (P&D)* | 11,534 | 11,534 | – | – |
2019-dated 2-roll set (P&D)* | 24,132 | 24,132 | – | – |
2024 Celia Cruz Quarters |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
Three-Roll Set | 12,408 | 12,477 | 69 | 0.56% |
100-Coin Bag (P) | 3,582 | 3,620 | 38 | 1.06% |
100-Coin Bag (D) | 2,104 | 2,113 | 9 | 0.43% |
Two-Roll Set | 5,195 | 5,261 | 66 | 1.27% |
2024 Dr. Mary Edwards Walker Quarters |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
Three-Roll Set | 10,627 | 10,642 | 15 | 0.14% |
100-Coin Bag (P) | 1,321 | 1,338 | 17 | 1.29% |
100-Coin Bag (D) | 1,114 | 1,120 | 6 | 0.54% |
Two-Roll Set | 2,463 | 2,465 | 2 | 0.08% |
2024 Patsy Takemoto Mink Quarters |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
Three-Roll Set | 11,318 | 11,326 | 8 | 0.07% |
100-Coin Bag (P) | 1,547 | 1,553 | 6 | 0.39% |
100-Coin Bag (D) | 1,265 | 1,267 | 2 | 0.16% |
Two-Roll Set | 2,749 | 2,750 | 1 | 0.04% |
2024 Rev. Dr. Pauli Murray Quarters |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
Three-Roll Set | 12,149 | 12,152 | 3 | 0.02% |
100-Coin Bag (P) | 1,858 | 1,863 | 5 | 0.27% |
100-Coin Bag (D) | 1,482 | 1,485 | 3 | 0.20% |
Two-Roll Set | 2,983 | 2,986 | 3 | 0.10% |
2023 Maria Tallchief Quarters |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
Three-Roll Set | 12,555 | 12,555 | – | – |
100-Coin Bag (P) | 2,072 | 2,079 | 7 | 0.34% |
100-Coin Bag (D) | 1,774 | 1,777 | 3 | 0.17% |
Two-Roll Set | 3,606 | 3,612 | 6 | 0.17% |
2023 Jovita Idar Quarters |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
Three-Roll Set | 12,596 | 12,596 | – | – |
100-Coin Bag (P) | 4,042 | 4,044 | 2 | 0.05% |
100-Coin Bag (D) | 3,621 | 3,623 | 2 | 0.06% |
Two-Roll Set | 3,928 | 3,933 | 5 | 0.13% |
2023 Eleanor Roosevelt Quarters |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
Three-Roll Set | 12,678 | 12,678 | – | – |
100-Coin Bag (P) | 4,330 | 4,332 | 2 | 0.05% |
100-Coin Bag (D) | 3,982 | 3,982 | – | – |
Two-Roll Set | 4,579 | 4,582 | 3 | 0.07% |
2023 Edith Kanakaʻole Quarters |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
Three-Roll Set | 12,585 | 12,585 | – | – |
100-Coin Bag (P) | 7,367 | 7,369 | 2 | 0.03% |
100-Coin Bag (D) | 4,586 | 4,590 | 4 | 0.09% |
Two-Roll Set | 5,819 | 5,821 | 2 | 0.03% |
2023 Bessie Coleman Quarters |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
Three-Roll Set | 12,509 | 12,509 | – | – |
100-Coin Bag (P) | 5,664 | 5,667 | 3 | 0.05% |
100-Coin Bag (D) | 4,957 | 4,957 | – | – |
Two-Roll Set | 5,970 | 5,972 | 2 | 0.03% |
2022 Anna May Wong Quarters |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
Three-Roll Set | 7,617 | 7,617 | – | – |
100-Coin Bag (P) | 1,860 | 1,860 | – | – |
100-Coin Bag (D) | 1,858 | 1,858 | – | – |
Two-Roll Set | 5,936 | 5,936 | – | – |
2022 Nina Otero-Warren Quarters |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
Three-Roll Set | 7,639 | 7,639 | – | – |
100-Coin Bag (P) | 1,856 | 1,856 | – | – |
100-Coin Bag (D) | 1,858 | 1,858 | – | – |
Two-Roll Set | 5,890 | 5,890 | – | – |
2022 Wilma Mankiller Quarters |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
Three-Roll Set | 7,616 | 7,616 | – | – |
100-Coin Bag (P) | 1,859 | 1,859 | – | – |
100-Coin Bag (D) | 1,833 | 1,833 | – | – |
Two-Roll Set | 5,918 | 5,918 | – | – |
2022 Dr. Sally Ride Quarters |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
Three-Roll Set | 7,603 | 7,603 | – | – |
100-Coin Bag (P) | 1,854 | 1,854 | – | – |
100-Coin Bag (D) | 1,852 | 1,852 | – | – |
Two-Roll Set | 5,926 | 5,926 | – | – |
2022 Maya Angelou Quarters |
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Old Sales |
Latest Sales |
Gain/ Loss |
% Increase |
|
Three-Roll Set | 7,588 | 7,588 | – | – |
100-Coin Bag (P) | 1,858 | 1,858 | – | – |
100-Coin Bag (D) | 1,861 | 1,861 | – | – |
Two-Roll Set | 5,940 | 5,940 | – | – |
Looks like the US Mint’s three annual flagship items are doing just fine this year while the 2024 Morgan and Peace silver dollars are tanking compared to their previous go-around. I think there might be more that just a bit of a lesson to be learned here.
Good, good, more for meeeee…… 😀
Now there, Antonio, is a positive attitude!
Kaiser, I’d say “doing fine” in the relative sense. After 31 weeks 24RG is at 302,224, whereas 23RG was at 364,511 and 22RG at 398,645 after the same amount of time. For 24RJ after 7 weeks is 140,831 vs 23RJ at 169,269 and 22RJ at 169,427 after the same amount of time. For 24RH after 16 weeks is 148,022 vs 23RH at 183,262 and 22RH at 204,582 after the same amount of time. On a product-to-product basis sales appear to me to be down across the board compared to the previous year’s offering.
Here’s the year-to-year comparative time period sales for the Morgan and Peace Proof (XF & XL) and Uncirculated (XE & XH):
After the first 5 weeks 24XF sold 163,057 vs 23XF at 310,848 & 24XL sold 148,205 vs 23XL at 287,636;
After the first 14 weeks 24XE sold 161,312 vs 23XE at 260,487 & 24XH sold 154,283 vs 23XH at 258,896.
Major D,
Many thanks for getting into the kind of nitty-gritty numbers work that allowed for a far more inclusive, complete and above all accurate version of this story to be told. All in all, I believe it to be exceedingly fortunate that in the final analysis at least one of us was ready, able and willing to get down to a much more exacting level of detail regarding the various pertinent facts and figures for the five particular Mint products in question both for the previous years of 2022 and 2023 and for the current year 2024 to date.
You’re very welcome! Some really big rate of sales declines, Kaiser– which lead to revenue declines. I wonder how the Mint is going to spin this on the 2024 Annual Report.
Well, Major D, the Mint can always go with either TBA or N/A.
Do you think that the program will be discontinued as of 2028 due to “lack of bullion available”?
Antonio,
I’m not sure which Mint program you are making reference to. By the way, by “bullion” do you possibly mean silver planchets?
I hope so.
Hope springs eternal.
Really makes no difference – the sales – they’ll just offer it for the next 10 years plus until it sells out.
Nothing to see here…. Keep moving….
Tony@GA,
Technically speaking, Tony, there is always something to see; what really matters and decides what we do see is how much if anything it happens to mean to us. 😉
What are these Flowing Hair Silver Medals currently worth? Pinehurst is offering a bounty, if that tells you anything? Although they say only Mint Fresh sealed coins will be accepted, they are offering 3 pricing tiers. $125 for (opened), $150 for (Mint sealed) and $2,000 for privy medals. Directions seem a bit confusing as on one hand they say opened will get rejected yet the offer $125 (opened), $150 (mint sealed) and $2,000 for privy w/no mention as sealed or unsealed. Anyhow, just thought some here may want to know how one dealer is playing this game. You can see… Read more »
Thanks Cali,
$2000 when buying someone’s raw privy tells me that they would be flipping a graded 70 for $5000, maybe more? 1794 is a small mintage with any moderns, even if it’s a medal(of such a classic design).. How many 70’s will spawn from that mintage? That is the question…
I could see the allure of some quick cash, but I think I would pass on that “deal”
Rick,
As always you’ve hit this (likely somewhat rusty) nail right on its (possibly rather) crooked head. After all, since what we’re dealing with here is a Silver Medal whose most extraordinary boost in value comes from something you can’t possibly see until and unless you unpack, i.e. open the Mint box containing the item itself, in what manner could it possibly make any sense to throw that potential “big win” away via a cleverly-orchestrated sealed box fire sale?
Rick, the 2024 Flowing Hair Silver Medal “230” privy mintage of 1,794 is indeed a small mintage for any of the moderns. For comparative purposes, some other “moderns” with ultra low mintage figures are: 2024-W Uncirculated Greatest Generation $5 Gold Coin: latest sales (10/13/24) = 1,159 2024-W Uncirculated Harriet Tubman $5 Gold Coin: latest sales (10/13/24) = 1,201 2022-W Uncirculated Negro Leagues Baseball $5 Gold Coin: final sales = 1,507 2022-W Uncirculated National Purple Heart $5 Gold Coin: final sales = 1,688 2021-W Uncirculated National Law Enforcement $5 Gold Coin: final sales = 1,753 2020-W $50 AGE Proof v75 privy:… Read more »
CaliSkier, “…they [Pinehurst] are offering 3 pricing tiers. $125 for (opened), $150 for (Mint sealed) and $2,000 for privy medals.” “I know I personally would have trust issues, wondering if they’d notify me about a sealed box having a privy,…” I think trust issues would be the least of your concerns since that consideration would most definitely not have any part to play in this particular transaction, CaliSkier. In fact, once you had completed the sale to Pinehurst of the unopened Mint Sealed Flowing Hair Silver Medal(s) for $150, the money you received as such would be your sole and entire… Read more »
Sir Kaiser, that deal sounds like the guitarist of Deez Nuts, Matt Rogers a.k.a. Real Bad.
Rich,
What’s the point of being a Kaiser if not to on occasion bestow a well earned award on a richly deserving person? As Der Kaiser it is therefore my singular honor and personal privilege to present you with five regal stars for the above related humorous masterpiece. Managing to combine all of Deez Nuts, Matt Rogers/Real Bad and the Pinehurst Scheme in one hysterical trope is most definitely a top flight achievement in anyone’s estimation!
Hey the “AvailableCount” field is back on the US Mint Site. As a test case 24XL (2024 Peace Proof) reports 150,050 vs. 148,205 sales on the 10/13/2024 cumulative sales report and a product limit of 300,000.
I was on Collector’s Universe forum and some one reported about 7,500 of the Flowing Hair Silver Medal available early this morning before the HHL was removed. After reading this, I couldn’t check Flowing Hair because it was currently unavailable. I checked 24XL.
Super to know! Thanks VinnieC
Excellent! Thanks!
Here are some available counts as of 10:40 pm EDT October 16 plus sales as of October 13 = Projected Mintage +/- :
23RH: 63,641+194,777=258,418 Silver Proof Set
23XF: 16,643+359,956=376,599 + (443×40) 23XF040= 394,319 Proof Morgan
23XL: 50,374+326,093=376,467 + (438×40) 23XL040= 393,987 Proof Peace
24RG: 114,904+302,224=417,128 Proof Set
24RH: 20,566+148,022=168,588 Silver Proof Set
24RJ: 47,367+140,831=188,198 Unc Set
24XE: 112,902+161,312=274,214 + (316×40) 24XE040= 286,854 Unc Morgan
24XH: 119,556+154,283=273,839 + (309×40) 24XH040= 286,199 Unc Peace
24XF: 134,988+163,057=298,045 + (302×40) 24XF040= 310,125 Proof Morgan
24XL: 150,050+148,205=298,255 + (302×40) 24XL040= 310,335 Proof Peace
Thanks Vinnie,
So Mike Unser said,
“First day sales: 31,695 units, per Mint.”
And you said “About 7500 available early this morning”(per the forum)puts it at around 40,000 ordered? KCSO looks to have made a pretty good estimate. And that sounds quite reasonable for the mint to strike that many. The Mint would positively never strike all 75,000 medals initially, not a chance imo. And I hope they keep it that way, cap it off..
My medal shipped out today 7:00 p.m. Eastern, and I’m keeping it privy or no privy..
VinnieC, i just noticed that 24XL has a product limit, but no mintage limit– adding in the Bulk40 (24XL040) sales will put it over 300,000.
VinnieC,
I’m not sure if I should thank you for that bit of information or cuss you out instead considering how I can now go back to having something else to obsess about again!
Sorry Major D to trick you into doing the heavy lifting
Sorry Kaiser to add more craziness into your life.
BTW the other forum also mentioned PCGS population reports were available (from the advance purchasers?) for the FH. MS69 = 418; MS70=735; MS69 Privy = 10; MS70 Privy = 40
VinnieC,
Sorry to make you feel you had to be sorry about anything. In that respect please allow me to reference the unofficial motto of the British Royal Family, “Never complain, never explain.”
But hold on there, as I can already see the main difficulty, which is if we didn’t complain and/or explain on this site we would be out of things to talk about.
LOL. Not to worry, there’s a lot more to lift.
AKBob, although the expected ship date was for Nov 5, my 2 “2024 (P) Silver Eagle NGC MS70 – First Star Privy 1 of First 50,000 Releases” have shipped and are expected to be delivered on Monday, Oct 21st! Hope yours ship soon, if not already in transit. Again, excellent play getting those Black Label 1 of 250 versions and capitalizing on a quick flip!
Congrats, CaliSkier, on yet another coveted coin coup; way to go, my friend!
Thanks Kaiser!
Cali, Thanks for the heads up. My one white core shipped out yesterday. I’ve already sold those black core ones. I purchased them for $99.99 each and sold them for $200 each. It was a quick $500 profit minus fees. As soon as I saw that it was 1 of 250, I knew those (black core) would be a very easy Sell and it was. I’m happy you took advantage of the offering. Yours (white core) are now selling for $200. So you have an upside of $200 already for the two you purchased. Your brother is going to be… Read more »
Congratulations to everyone that picked up a 2024 Flowing Hair Silver medal yesterday! Hopefully the quality will be all that you desire. Let us all know what you think when you receive. Check the obverse and reverse for possible finning around or along the rim.
VanHalen on Collector’s Universe reports a finned rim on on of his medals.
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1107672/u-s-mint-2024-lottery-230th-anniversary-flowing-hair-silver-medal/p14
FH gone in a blip at the 7:30 AM EDT fire sale.
I was thinking about this flowing hair medal. Too bad it couldn’t have been done as a business strike vs the porgan unc. strikes we have become accustomed to. Maybe next year if or when they do the 2025 version.
They could do a draped bust version.
East Coast Guru,
By the way the Porgan strikes are made are you referring to Burnished Uncirculated?
Yes Kaiser. I don’t really care for that finish. The ATB’s had that finish too. It’s got a blah factor that is uninteresting to me.
May I agree and speculate at the same time? The circulating business strike is somewhat variable as the die is used and I suspect the MS70 club would find most of the strikes to be inadequate, then reject and return them. The laser frosted “uncirculated” finish masks minor imperfections on the burnished planchets and gives a nice uniform finish. But it is, as you say, bland. Imperfections add character to coins and people.
kia99 and East Coast Guru, what someone may call bland I may call pure. I’m a big fan of the Burnished Uncirculated finish, but as Kaiser likes to say, “to each their own”.
In doing the math, if the FHS sell-out contained all 75,000 (the mintage limit) the odds of a “230” privy are about 1 in 48. And if it contained around 40,000 (as Rich and others speculated) and all of the “230” privy were included up front, then the odds become about 1 in 22. Those are really good odds. I’d say one (or more) of us commenting here (and on the last article) may be a lucky winner. Whoever it is, please let us all know. It looks like the Mint has sent them out in record time, so we’ll… Read more »
Major D, glad to see you back in this neck of the woods. Wouldn’t the privy marked coins on the entire mintage of 75,000 equate to 1 privy marked medal for every 41.8/42 vs 1 in 48? I’m guessing you just made a simple typo, omitting or missing the 1 and decimal point? So the odds are slightly better, that 1 or more readers of Coin News will receive a privy “230” silver medal? If the Mint only produced 40,000, it would be interesting to know, if they produced all 1,794 privy medals, or a percentage based on 40,000/75,000, equating… Read more »
CaliSkier, yes, right you are! 1,794/75,000=0.02392:::::: Inverse=41.806 which rounds to 42. So, 1 in 42. Guess it must have been a dyslectic moment taking 41.8 and making 48 out of it. Always good to have your second set of eyes on the calculator. There’s no telling when it comes to the Mint as to how it gets dispersed. My guess is that all of the privy and signed coas were done up front and part of the initial release.
CaliSkier, have you seen this posting from Tony Stubblefield earlier today, as it may shed some light on the questions you posed? I contacted the mint and asked them about the advance release coins, and if that happened the 1794 coins with the privy marks were already gone to the dealers: here is their reply : Dear Tony Stubblefield, This letter is in response to your recent correspondence to the United States Mint. Unfortunately, we are unable to speak on products advertised on other websites other than the United States Mint. However, we can assure you that the 230th Anniversary… Read more »
The odds of receiving a 230-privy of 1 in 22 (based on 40,000 medals) is about twice as good as the odds of 1 in 42 (based on 75,000 medals) [please note the correction]. And yes, one or more of us commenters here will likely be one of the lucky ones.
Thanks. Correction noted and appreciated.
Gold now at a new all time high of $2,708 on Kitco currently! Cha Ching! Precious metals are definitely seeing some action tonight on the World Market! Silver over $32!
Totally, Cali! Gold and Silver is seeing some serious FOMO, with today’s closing spot gold at $2,720 and Silver at $33.66
Any predictions on the gold flowing hair coin price? I am guessing $3,540. Assuming a $2,800+ average spot price.
The grid only goes up to $2,999.99.
By the way, all the artist images I have found on line for the gold flowing hair show the coin as a matte or burnished proof. No mirror on the coin. Any info out there on the type of proof this will be?
East Coast Guru, I’ve only managed to see similar renderings of more of a burnished proof type finish. More or less a matte/burnished field with a slightly shiny burnished relief on the actual device/design. Kind of a matte/burnished reverse proof type finish if you will. See this sites(below) renderings for an idea of how I interpret current imagages I’ve seen. These will be way too pricey for my very limited budget, however I think they would look awesome as rendered in the link below vs a traditional proof finish with mirrored fields and frosted devices. Either way, I think those… Read more »
ECG – the artist are taking the FHS and overlaying a gold tint layer (color formatting) over it, that’s how those are originating,
East Coast, I’m going with a launch day price of $3,670 based on the current “pricing range table”. That would be a spot price of in the range of $2,650-$2,699.99. I’m slightly puzzled by your post? If gold is at $2,800 spot on launch day, the current table would place the price at $3,820 vs your estimate of $3,540. My thoughts are, since the 2024 Flowing Hair Silver Medal is priced the same($104) as the 2024 Liberty and Britannia Silver Medal, that the 2024 Flowing Hair Gold Coin will follow suit, as having the same price as a 2024 Liberty… Read more »
Cali, I tried to respond but I added a link to my reply to the mint’s site grid I was referring to. My comment was under moderation and then deleted. Anyway, the grid I found must have been an older version.
thought I’d try
2024 Pricing Grid
$3,820 Assumes $2,800 + $1,020 premium, (like L&B) Spot may be over $2,850, though pricing grid will lag Rationale – $20B coming out of cash and into stocks, bonds, gold, and crypto China & India central banks continued buying Costco gold feverish orgy sales pace, they can’t keep any around a day, these aren’t collectors, these are the masses, $h!+ Show election risk and fear Middle East teetering on an all out war Strait of Hormuz risk impacting oil, which IMO influences AU Lowering Fed Reserve interest rates and continued devaluation of USD $ National Debt and financial issues come… Read more »
Bingo,
Except I think $20B is just scratching the surface.. .
Sounds about right, KC&S. The overall bullish sentiment in Gold should yield $3,000 gold by year’s end. With gold at $2,700 now, mid-October, and at $3,000 by end-December, a price average of $2,800-2,850 over the 5-day period of Nov. 6 – Nov. 8 and Nov. 11 – Nov. 12 is quite possible for setting the price of the Flowing Hair Gold Coin on Nov. 13th for launch on the 14th.
Spot AU this morning is: $2,727.., another 3% up = $2,808
Which irks me to no end, as every time I go to buy into a high dollar USM AU release, damn if the gold price doesn’t run up, every frigg’n time!
Pray for peace and a snowy blizzard everywhere for two weeks, to chill things out….
Rick, Rick, Major D, & crew – Previous Thread > Appreciate your input on FHG release thoughts, good stuff.., think I’ll get out the dart board and throw a dart… hehe,
KCSO, I hear you! I remember back over on MNB years ago, someone brought up the fact that every time the US Mint was about to do a gold coin release, gold always goes up and the Mint ends up making more money! I thot to myself back then, oh well, I don’t buy gold anyways (back then I couldn’t afford gold) so I didn’t pay too much attention to that. Now, I’m a gold bug and I’ve noticed that whenever the Mint is about to release a gold coin, gold goes up magically! I now sound like that person… Read more »
So, there’s only 27 days until launch of the 2024 Flowing Hair Gold $1 1oz coin and still no image provided by the US Mint? Somewhat hard to believe that they haven’t produced a, or “the” prototype representing, exactly what they intend to produce? Odd IMO, that the marketing department hasn’t taken the bull by the horns and made this happen. Either way, they will sell out, however from a business model, or typical business practice, this just seems so very strange to me? I’m trying to think of other examples or an industry, where this would be a normal… Read more »
Hi CaliSkier,
Could it be so the Chinese can’t have a perfect counterfeit ready by day one of the release?
Hey Jeff, I guess that’s a somewhat plausible theory? Nice to know your still out there lurking behind the scenes! Enjoy the rest of your day and don’t be a stranger! Join us here more frequently if you find the time or inspiration. Cali
Thanks CaliSkier,
I will pipe up when I feel I have something to add to the coin talk, which is rare, or if no one else speaks up when insults start flying here again. Looks like there are enough people that care about civility on a coin site now that I should not need to interject myself in that area here for a while, hopefully never again. Twice was enough for me. I am enjoying the site as it is now. Lots of good coin info trading hands.
Hey Jeff, hope you had success selling your ASE collection.
Hi Major D, Nope, not even a nibble. I only ran 3 consecutive ads in a local weekly community paper. I am just not interested in selling anything online. Yes, I am a dinosaur. I guess not too many people are interested in OGP nearly complete proof ASE collections anymore (I am missing the 1995-W set and the 2017-S coin). I am guessing in maybe a hundred years an OGP collection coming up for sale will be a rare and valuable thing, but right now it seems everyone wants graded coins. I paid exactly $5657.70 for my collection (overpaid due to… Read more »
Jeff, I think there are many collectors among us who are stuck, so to speak, in not being able to sell to recoup the cost of their coins- many bought direct from the Mint and still in OGP. It sucks to think that in the end it all comes down to spot. I did drop out a while back, with the expectation of not returning until the Mint’s 2024 Annual Report comes out. But this FHS spectacle drew me back in. Speaking just for me, it’s good to leave every now and then. Otherwise, it feels too much like “Hotel… Read more »
Jeff Legan, I’m glad to know I’m not the only one here who just likes to collect certain coins. I (just this last week) completed my 50 States via the Silver Proof Sets. I had two big holes in the group; no 1999 at all (I was between jobs back then), and I made the mistake of originally buying the Clad 2000 set. Now I have both 1999 & 2000 in Silver Proof, all in OGP. Yes, I probably overpaid at Apmex, but they had them in-stock; shipped in 3 days. I can’t afford to (and don’t really care to)… Read more »
Hi Sam-I-am, Apmex is a bargain compared to Littleton. By the way, a dealer at the coin show offered me 3-4 grand (I didn’t pay much attention to what he said, I knew it was going to be around 1/2 retail value before he spoke), but Littleton offered me 5 grand. One advantage of their high selling prices is they also have higher buying prices. I contacted them to get a list of all the proof ASEs, so figured since I was already talking to them, I might as well find out what they would offer. They had a checklist,… Read more »
Jeff, I envy you that 2009 UHR. If I win the lottery, it would be the first gold coin I’d buy! Like you, gold is largely out of bounds for me. I also highly admire your Kennedy gold. I’ve seen photos, and they leave me drooling! You have excellent taste in coins, IMO! I’m not a heavy participant in the conversations, but I’ll jump in any time I think I have something to add, or a question to ask. Many times, I find the conversation goes over my head, as I’m nowhere near as experienced as some other folks here.… Read more »
Hey Major D, I have noticed a few times you calling me Jeff Logan, and did not mention it. I guess your eyes are not young anymore either, like mine. I am terrible at names so it is not a big deal but I thought I should correct it now before you get too entrenched. E not O. Pronounced league-en. Slovenian name. My grandparents from both sides came from Europe around 1912. The other set is Hungarian. I would say I am a bit of a mutt, though I have never taken one of those heritage DNA tests. You take… Read more »
Jeff Legan, I am very sorry for that! I had a friend with last name Logan and I guess I subconsciously make that mistake.
Wow and interesting what just flashed back into my memory, after again reading the article over at CoinAge magazine on the new Nice Gang, Eighth Era video game, associated with the US Mints new “Star Privy” bullion 1oz American Silver Eagle. Some of or most of you, would have assuredly at some point, had at least some interest in video games back in the day? So after watching the “Eighth Era” video game trailer, I immediately flashed on a game from back in 1983/1984 called “Dragon’s Lair”! That was 40 years ago. Now fast forward and how ironic to me… Read more »
You’re never too old (or young) for CLASSIC Disney. Walt was a true American legend.
Had to rub my eyes when I took a gander at the metals spot minutes ago!!
Hi Ho, SILVER!
Egg McMuffin purchase this morning yielded a 2023 P Bessie Coleman quarter which is nicer than the ones in my uncirculated sets. Even nicer than the Denver, which is most unusual. Super crisp strike and proof like fields. Should have tried to snag the whole roll. 🙁
DaveSWFL,
I’m rubbing my eyes too! Gotta love it! 😉
FHS – my order should arrive this evening.., with that –
Are these really showing up in a bubble wrap mailer?
A $104 coin, in a thin cardboard box, mailed in an envelope?
Are you kidding me?
And they still charged $6 for shipping.., geez, thanks USM!
I wonder if a $3,820 gold coin warrants a box? Perhaps., Bueller, Bueller?
Received my FHS – In a white plastic envelope – Box creased on corner where it got in a pinch I guess but the clam shell and coin are pristine – the COA is beautiful – The coin is matte? but it seems to be flawless. No signed COA or privy – I suspect NO ONE on this blog or no one that you personally know will get a privy or a signed COA – I hope I am wrong. We will see if anybody says so – I threw a challenge out for the signed GGS as well and… Read more »
Tony@GA, I didn’t win the FHS raffle either. I’m not aware of a signed GGS as being a thing. I never heard of it. Did I miss something?
I thought that the FHS/FHG Obverse was a laughable, 30 degree, no-forehead blast from the past as I recall you saying?
No big deal just saying, as I have changed my mind on a coin/medal myself…
Yes, the GG 3 coin proof set contained/has 2 or 300 signed COAs from Miss Gibson.. .
Rick, you are absolutely right. It was the chance of winning a golden ticket to flip and make a few easy thousand $. It was a pure gamble. Bought one medal, which I value at $74 and lost on a $30 raffle. Absent the raffle, I never would have bought one. I’m glad I missed hearing about the GG 3-coin set, or I would have tried for that one, too.
Silver Spot went parabolic this week – up 9.2% over the past 5 days..,
Has anyone sold silver to JM Bullion?
Or recommend any others that are reasonable at buying silver?
Do they track for 1099-K reporting?
Want to avoid eBay, and don’t have the time to deal with dealers..,
I have more ATB pucks than I should, and that need to find a new home, when silver pops to $45.., (wishful thinking)
Thanks for any thoughts, & happy Saturday!
KC&SO, most assuredly you will get a 1099 from dealers like JM Bullion and APMEX (and others if they’re on the up-and-up). There are some good YouTube videos out there for tips on selling. Good luck!
Thank ya Sir, will check out those videos,
So is what I am reading correct? That instead of 75K the silver medal may have a mintage of 40K?
pure speculation
You are correct NoCoonCollector, you read that correctly. The 2024 Flowing Hair Silver Medal’s may indeed end up or have a final mintage of 40,000+-. Although the maximum mintage was listed at 75,000, nothing stipulates the US Mint has to or is required to produce the entire maximum mintage. The sales report coming out on Tuesday will give a better indication of what actual and potential future sales may be. The US Mint could simply be lying in wait for their 2025 Cyber Monday sale, be waiting for enough “Remind Me” sign ups/notices to strike more, waiting to see how… Read more »
Coon is a virulently racist term – I would appreciate if the moderator removed your comment.
NoCoinCollector, accept my apology for what was simply a typo. As you’re aware the O and I, are right next to each other on the keyboard. Additionally my phone is my computer, not to mention being quite early while composing. My eyes also aren’t what they used to be and so I just didn’t catch it until you mentioned. There are some here that may find this amusing, I do not. So, I’ll try and be more careful when replying to your posts. Welcome again to this blog and hopefully you were being serious and not fanning flames, opened by… Read more »
Cali, lol, you did another typo on his name above. NoCoinCollector instead of NcCoinCollector! Hey, I knew immediately that was a typo. You are NOT the kind of person that would talk/text/type something like that especially on this website. I absolutely accept your apology as well and I’m sure you’re quite mortified about it as I would have been had I done that. Another person that posts here texted me privately and asked me what I thot about it and I simply said it was an accident. The o and i are right next to each other. Fat Fingers strike… Read more »
LOL AKBob, Ay Carramba! I really need to upgrade my old outdated phone/computer, to a new fangled modern one with a much larger screen. When I read your comment in regards to Nc vs No, I couldn’t help but LOL! Ironically, since NcCoinCollectors first post here on CoinNews I thought or my eyes had registered NoCoinCollector, which did strike me as a bit odd? As, if you’re not a coin collector, did he or she possibly get here by mistake? LOL Then I just dismissed and thought, perhaps NcCoin is a “flipper”, hoarder, speculator or investor vs collector and carried… Read more »
Cali,
I thinks you stepped on your Dik brah.
Hmm… So, here appears to be a case of buy the coin, the holder or the provenance??? A 1909 S/S S/ Horizontal S RD CAC(GRN), in an old PCGS Regency Holder, from the previous “Stewart Blay” collection. Based on the previous appearance on GC, this was one of Stewart’s duplicates? I tried diligently to track, however besides it’s previous appearance(Nov 19, 2023 Item ID 1455943 not CAC’d, yet) in a GC auction, I was unable to definitively locate. Just means it would take some serious research by someone with more knowledge or resources. PCGS places a value of $1,400-$1,550 in… Read more »
“So, here appears to be a case of buy the coin, the holder or the provenance???” Yes x 3 it looks like! It’s definitely the same coin before CAC looked at it. Nice coin, but not for me at the moment(because I blew my money on all those “V” coins LOL!) The seller bought it last November for $4489 so he’s got some work to do by tomorrow?! Coin flipping is fairly common at the auction houses. I’ve seen a few of my coins sold in marketplace prior to my purchase, and I’ve seen a couple of my coins languishing… Read more »
Rick, thanks for providing the sellers price paid last November and agree, he has some work to do regarding current bid or final hammer price in 10 hours. I know you’re on business in Orlando with other priorities and no access for a few weeks to the Kenned D, however if at all possible, it would behoove you to e-mail GC sooner, rather than later if at all possible. Again, good luck and may the odds be ever in your favor! PS Looks like others also found that 1900 O Morgan above to be under graded as well! “You and… Read more »
FHS – $40.00 dollar silver coin……$64 dollar box and packaging.
She is beautiful!
And this is cause for celebration on another level also Tony! Why? You opened the sealed mint packaging bro! And I completely understand why you had to open it. My FHS is sitting in my office and won’t be opened until I get home in a month! So stay tuned(I could have my wife open it? But…)… I bought the Greatest Generation proof set and sent it in for a first strike label and instructed them to encapsulate the Ventris signed COA… Until they informed me that it was not signed, boohoo.. And to top that off two of the… Read more »
Rick – LMBO!!! You nailed it bud – I absolutely COULD NOT leave it sealed.
I never open anything but I sure did that one sir!
Tony@GA, Rick, You guys are killing me! I never open mine either. I ALWAYS wait so I can send it in for grading because I love PCGS First Strike Labels! They are a lot more attractive plus they add value to the grade. I prefer PCGS over NGC because PCGS coins seem to garner a little more money, they are worth more than an NGC graded coin and sells faster too. There are thousands of collectors that prefer NGC or ANACS. Each to their own. Anyways, I’m having a very hard time deciding whether I will open mine or send… Read more »
How about an actual silver privy coin, this one’s a dollar proof coin from 2022 with a mintage of only 19,687. An NGC PF70 Ultra Cameo First Release just sold for $83 free shipping. Sold for less than the Mint’s original release price of $85. And this one’s a PF70.
2022 p negro leagues baseball proof silver dollar 100th privy ngc pf70 uc fr | eBay
All I can conclude is that it deals with history of a different kind, that the numismatic community largely doesn’t care for.
Major D, I was with you till your last sentence! I don’t think that’s a fair statement/comment/opinion to put us into! Number one, I thot we weren’t supposed to talk about or insinuate politics, woke crap, etc. on this website. Secondly, you have no idea what I think nor believe and You My Friend, couldn’t be further from the truth in saying what you said directed at myself and everyone on here and everyone that collects coins. I just don’t know what to say without going on a rant about the frickin Woke, Progressive, Liberal A Holes out there but… Read more »
What commemorative has the mint produced that has done well in the secondary market? I can’t think of one either. 19687 privy’s is a lot any way you slice it. I haven’t bought a commemorative mint coin in years. It will stay that way with these lame super heroes coming out too.
East Coast Guru, just curious- as a collector what is it about the commemoratives that you don’t like? For this year’s offerings it’s mostly the price for me. If you follow commemoratives, you’ll know that there have been many that sell for more than the Mint’s original price- some much higher than others. The 2001 Buffalo and 1995/96 Olympic Unc quickly come to mind. More recently, the 2018 WWI Marine medal set, 2019 Apollo, and 2022 Purple Heart to name a few. I’m with you regarding the upcoming superheroes.
Guru,
I have fond memories of the greatly anticipated release of the Baseball Hall of Fame Commemoratives. They were very popular, sold out quickly, and hit the secondary market with very nice premiums. I ordered and flipped a ton of this issue and kept a good supply for myself as well.
Dave, Major, thank you for the reminders on some of the commemorative coins. I have the WWI Marine and the Apollo 5oz. Bought both in the secondary market. For roughly the original mint’s price. But as a long term store of value, for the most part, the commemoratives just don’t do well. I like some of the early commemoratives. I am focusing on Hawaii and a Hudson next. But as you know those were circulated so high quality coins are tough to find.
AKBob, I did say “largely” as in the numismatic community largely doesn’t care for. And “community” means all of us, not singly you or anyone else out in particular. It’s just a simple fact borne out by the marketplace, that this coin isn’t valued very much. So, why is that? There have been complaints on this forum that the FHS is just a medal, and not a coin. Here we have an actual coin with low mintage (the lowest mintage silver proof dollar in the history of modern commemoratives), and the PF70s are selling for less than the original Mint… Read more »
Major D, I sense that you feel that the coin market is discriminating against African American coins. I can assure you that it is not. Especially the mint. The truth is, most African Americans are not into rare coins. Coins are just not their cup of tea and it is their preference to choose freely as they do. I have one African American friend that says “Nay on coins, I’m into ball cards and jerseys. “He prefers the rookie cards of Jackie Robinson, Willie Mays, Reggie Jackson, Michael Jordan, and Wilt Chamberlin. These are multi-million-dollar cards. Yet, Mickey Mantle, Joe… Read more »
E 1,
Thanks for a calm, reasoned response regarding Black folks and coins aimed at African-Americans. Most Black folks I know who are into PM’s seem more interested in stacking bars or other formats, rather than coins. Not good, not bad; just is. As Kaiser W. and AKBob often put it, “to each his (or her) own”. I was heartened at my last trip to the LCS, seeing several women in the store, buying (or at least looking at) coins. But yes, most of the coin-buying types are 40+ y/o white guys.
Ditto
Sam-I-Am and E 1, I appreciate your thoughtful responses. Yes indeed, “to each his (or her) own”.
E 1, you miss the point I was making. There shouldn’t be black coins anymore than there should be white coins. Just coins. But, borne out by numbers sold, the so-called “African American” coins are the lowest selling. They are not minted just for black people. However, the numismatic community is largely white and it largely does not buy them. Now, this is not an argument for or against any discrimination. It is merely stating a truth.
Major D, Maybe the mint made a huge marketing mistake by creating collector coins that celebrate and commemorate African Americans. But, I don’t think so. Maybe we need a private promoter to shed some light on these overlooked rarities. Someone that can turn that pain into prosperity. Someone who can truly take it to heart and run with it. For example, Rick Tomoskas and his book on “Proof Cameo Franklin Half Dollars.” Bill Fivaz’s “Cherry Pickers Guide.” Jeff Garret’s book “100 Greatest Modern US Coins.” Every one of these authors shared one thing in common – they wanted to shed… Read more »
E 1, one of my favorite Modern Commemoratives is the 1997-W $5 Jackie Robinson Uncirculated Gold Coin, partly because of it’s relatively low mintage at the time. The authorized mintage limit was 100,000 for the $5 Gold coins. The Proof $5 Gold final mintage = 24,072 and the Uncirculated $5 Gold final mintage = 5,174. Supposedly, due to the relatively disappointing sales results, an attempt was made to extend the sales offering period, but the proposal was rejected. The coins had been available for sale by the Mint from August 16, 1997 to August 16, 1998.
Rich,
Someone should write a book to hi-lite some of those rarities. It is disappointing that his card gets more love than his coin. But, the card is an actual artifact of antiquity and the coin is a commemoration after the fact. That may have something to do with it. Also, Olympic commemorative coins have never done well in the past either. So, buyers are fickle. When I come up with something that everyone on the planet wants, I will let you know.
Cheers
E 1, you are right about those 1995/96 Centennial Olympic coins not doing well- I think because there were so many of them (2,488,127 total coins). There were so many combinations of sets that it was complicated to know what was up. The Mint used to provide a link in its Historical Coin Sales Figures to a spreadsheet (236 lines x 42 columns) which tallied it all. Unfortunately, I see that the spreadsheet is no longer available but I’m glad to have downloaded it when it was.
E 1, again thanks for a thoughtful response. I don’t besmirch anyone for choosing not to buy any one coin or another. Some years ago, when my daughter was young and played with Barbies, she had white Barbies. Yet there were black Barbies available that we did not buy. So, I understand that people choose based on what reflects their identity and culture. But if I were a collector of Barbies, those early black ones are scarcer in the market and more valuable as a result- which would make me want to acquire. I guess what throws me off is… Read more »
Major D, Yes, just another fascinating dimension of marketing as it relates to the psychology and sociology of collecting. As for the book idea. It could be a tremendous opportunity for fame, notoriety, and wealth. There are a number of well-known numismatic writers on this blog and you have access to a number of publishers through CDN. I never put my copyright stamp on anything related to this subject. So, it’s all yours. You write well and you are good with numbers. If you are good with photography, then you may want to run with it. Every book starts with… Read more »
Just received my FH silver medal. In a bag. No cardboard protective box. Of all the silver medals that the mint has made, this is one of them. It’s a shoulder shrug medal. Glad I bought one as an original replica but this will not have any legs just like all the other medals the mint produces. The privy may have some legs, but I wouldn’t go out of my way to buy it. Whoever bought a 70 privy out there for $5k+ early release good luck getting a return on your purchase. Perhaps if it was a business strike… Read more »
Good luck getting Congress to pass a bill for a coin that doesn’t have “E Pluribus Unum” & “In God we Trust” on it. Recall the uproar over the original Sacagewa dollar. Consider the existing laws that would have to be changed to allow a faithful minting of the original Flowing Hair dollar. Consider it’s a fraction of the mintage of current Morgan and Peace dollars. Consider that the inverse and reverse are not nearly as busy as current offerings (initials, mottos etc.) If you don’t like it, you don’t like it but don’t disparage the mint.
Who said anything about removing In God We Trust or E Pluribus Unum. I was talking about a business strike or finish on the medal. I like the fact that there are no mint marks or initials. Said that long ago. This medal in its current form is to sterile for me. However, if you think I was disparaging the mint, you ain’t seen nothing yet. But I will hold back as this is a family type blog.
NcCoinCollector,
The way it seems, those silver counterparts to gold coins will always be medals.
One of my favorite Chuck Berry songs:
“C’est la vie” say the old folks
It goes to show you never can tell
I got my FHS today as well in a bubble-wrap. I’m 0 for 1 and done.
Major D,
Survey says, a lot of people here are 0 and 1 and done. Seems to be a pattern.
East Coast Guru,
“Of all the silver medals that the mint has made, this is one of them.”
That gets the Kaiser Prize for one of the most clever comments ever on here!
All,
Looking at metal values lately, what I find almost frightening is the melt value of the modern 1 cent 97.5% Zinc coin. Inflation has made this over 8/10ths of a cent in metal value alone. Forget the cost the Mint incurs to manufacture all the dang things (over 3 cents each). What’s next, plastic pennies?
Sam-I-Am,
Plastic pennies…the ultimate pollutant. Everyone would throw them away.
If Precious Metal Values sustain this rate of climb upcoming Gold and Silver coins from the Mint (or anywhere else) will likely be priced up there with Unobtainium!
FHS Lotto Ticket – 0 for 1 and done,
Still can’t believe it arrived in a bubble mailer, geez…
Keep Calm & Stack On,
As with the Lottery, there aren’t all that many big winners. It’s the nature of the beast.
Major D said, in response to Tony@GA’s comment: “I’m not aware of a signed GGS as being a thing. I never heard of it. Did I miss something?” The Greatest Generation Sets were seeded with the signature of VCG. “The Honorable Ventris C. Gibson, Director of the Mint, signed 250 Certificates of Authenticity (COAs) for the 2024 Greatest Generation Three-Coin Proof Set (24CG). These personally signed COAs will be randomly inserted into unmarked sets and will be fulfilled when shipping begins.” (2/22/24 USM Press Release)
Well Rick, it appears that unless there is some last second bidding, the seller of that “1909 S/S S/ Horizontal S RD CAC(GRN), in an old PCGS Regency Holder, from the previous “Stewart Blay” collection” is poised to take a small loss this evening? Still at $4,200/$4,725 w/buyers fee. 20 minutes to go.
Bidder 20 jumped in last second and sniped it at $5,750/$6,468.75 w/buyers fee! Wow! Had been at $4,800
prior to that. Bet that seller is pretty happy about that flip.
CaliSkier,
The seller is happy as are the auctioneer and the buyer. On the other hand, all those who have been restricted to watching these lofty transactions from the sidelines aren’t all that thrilled. C’est la vie.
Now here’s a pricey one! “1911-D Indian Gold Quarter Eagle Strong D PCGS MS-65 (CAC Green)”. Pretty awesome specimen with 3 hr left and currently at $74,500/81,950 w/buyers fees. 39 bids amongst 11 bidders.
https://www.greatcollections.com/Coin/1679504/1911-D-Indian-Gold-Quarter-Eagle-Strong-D-PCGS-MS-65-CAC-Green
CaliSkier,
For some people that cash represents a coin, for others a good year’s income. 😉
Got my Flowing Hair medal/coin today. No privy. Boo!
But, it’s a nice looking medal/coin and I’ll likely keep it.
A. Johnson,
At least you are pleased with the Medal; that’s something.