US Mint Sales: 2024 Proof Morgan & Peace Dollars at 1-Month

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CoinNews photo 2024-S Proof Morgan and Peace Silver Dollars
This CoinNews photo shows 2024-S Proof Morgan and Peace Silver Dollars

Flagship sets topped U.S. Mint sales for the week ending Oct. 13, with the 2024 Proof Set leading at 2,632 sold, followed by the uncirculated 2024 Mint Set at 1,132. In contrast, other numismatic products in the top ten saw more subdued sales figures.

Meanwhile, one month has passed since the U.S. Mint released the 2024-S Proof Morgan and Peace Silver Dollars, making it an ideal time to evaluate their performance — especially given the 2024-S Proof Peace Silver Dollar has seen two consecutive weekly declines (-13,391 and now -4,382), while the 2024-S Proof Morgan Silver Dollar registered only a modest weekly gain (+48) after experiencing a drop in the previous week (-20,127).

Breaking down the numbers, sales of the 2024-S Proof Morgan Silver Dollar now stand at 175,137 coins, with 163,057 from the standalone option and 12,080 coins (302 units) from the bulk option. In comparison, last year’s proof Morgan logged one-month sales of 328,568 coins, including 310,848 from the standalone option and 17,720 coins (443 units) from the bulk option.

The 2024-S Proof Peace Silver Dollar posted updated sales of 160,285 coins, with 148,205 from the standalone option and 12,080 coins (302 units) from the bulk option. By contrast, last year’s proof Peace dollar recorded one-month sales of 305,156 coins, including 287,636 from the standalone option and 17,520 coins (438 units) from the bulk option.

U.S. Mint Top Sellers

Here is the roster of the U.S. Mint’s most sought-after numismatic products for the week ending on Oct. 13:

  1. 2024 Proof Set (+2,632 to 302,224)
  2. 2024 Mint Set (+1,132 to 140,831)
  3. 2024 Silver Proof Set (+769 to 148,022)
  4. 2023 Limited Edition Silver Proof Set (+333 to 27,835)
  5. 2024-S Proof Silver Eagle (+326 to 114,708)
  6. 2024-W Proof Silver Eagle (+299 to 273,796)
  7. 2024 American Innovation Dollar Proof Set (+210 to 52,251)
  8. 2021 Silver Proof Set (+194 to 306,045)
  9. 2024-P Uncirculated Morgan Silver Dollar (+164 to 161,312)
  10. 2024 U.S. Mint Ornament (+163 to 3,507)

In its latest report, the U.S. Mint published sales data for 494 numismatic products. The data revealed that 61 products outperformed their sales from the previous week, compared to 68 in the prior report. Two products experienced a week-over-week increase of more than 1,000 units, compared to 3 in the previous report.

Additionally, 7 products posted negative weekly sales, up from 2 in the previous report. All the reductions were modest, except for the previously mentioned 2024-S Proof Peace Silver Dollar.

US Mint Sales: Numismatic Products

Below are tables showing the latest available sales for U.S. Mint numismatic products. The sales period covers from Oct. 7 to Oct. 13

. Products with an asterisk (*) are no longer available or had no reported sales.

2024 Commemorative Coins

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2024-S Proof Greatest Generation Half Dollar 17,933 18,017 84 0.47%
2024-D Uncirculated Greatest Generation Half Dollar 7,541 7,581 40 0.53%
2024-P Proof Greatest Generation Silver Dollar 30,636 30,787 151 0.49%
2024-P Uncirculated Greatest Generation Silver Dollar 10,151 10,202 51 0.50%
2024-W Proof Greatest Generation $5 Gold Coin 1,489 1,493 4 0.27%
2024-W Uncirculated Greatest Generation $5 Gold Coin 1,154 1,159 5 0.43%
2024 Greatest Generation Three-Coin Proof Set 4,367 4,384 17 0.39%
2024-S Proof Harriet Tubman Half Dollar 12,728 12,750 22 0.17%
2024-D Uncirculated Harriet Tubman Half Dollar 6,458 6,477 19 0.29%
2024-P Proof Harriet Tubman Silver Dollar 20,084 20,147 63 0.31%
2024-P Uncirculated Harriet Tubman Silver Dollar 6,962 6,983 21 0.30%
2024-W Proof Harriet Tubman $5 Gold Coin 1,547 1,547
2024-W Uncirculated Harriet Tubman $5 Gold Coin 1,196 1,201 5 0.42%
2024 Harriet Tubman Three-Coin Proof Set 4,133 4,143 10 0.24%

Morgan & Peace Silver Dollars

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2024-S Proof Morgan Silver Dollar 163,009 163,057 48 0.03%
2024-S Proof Morgan Silver Dollar (Bulk – 40 Coins) 302 302
2024-S Proof Peace Silver Dollar 152,587 148,205 -4,382 -2.87%
2024-S Proof Peace Silver Dollar (Bulk – 40 Coins) 302 302
2024-P Uncirculated Morgan Silver Dollar 161,148 161,312 164 0.10%
2024-P Uncirculated Morgan Silver Dollar (40 – Bulk) 316 316
2024-P Uncirculated Peace Silver Dollar 154,178 154,283 105 0.07%
2024-P Uncirculated Peace Silver Dollar (40 – Bulk) 309 309
2023-S Morgan & Peace Silver Dollar Reverse Proof Set 247,820 247,820
2023-S Proof Morgan Silver Dollar 359,894 359,956 62 0.02%
2023-S Proof Morgan Silver Dollar (Bulk – 40 Coins) 443 443
2023-S Proof Peace Silver Dollar 326,060 326,093 33 0.01%
2023-S Proof Peace Silver Dollar (Bulk – 40 Coins) 438 438
2023-P Uncirculated Morgan Silver Dollar 260,527 260,527
2023-P Uncirculated Morgan Silver Dollar (40 – Bulk) 330 330
2023-P Uncirculated Peace Silver Dollar 260,474 260,474
2023-P Uncirculated Peace Silver Dollar (40 – Bulk) 338 338

2024 Liberty & Britannia

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2024-W Liberty & Britannia Gold Coin 5,549 5,549
2024-P Liberty & Britannia Silver Medal 33,180 33,183 3 0.01%

Armed Forces Silver Medals

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
U.S. Army 2.5 Ounce Silver Medal 9,988 9,988
U.S. Marine Corps 2.5 Ounce Silver Medal 9,988 9,988
U.S. Navy 2.5 Ounce Silver Medal 9,987 9,987
U.S. Coast Guard 2.5 Ounce Silver Medal 9,955 9,955
U.S. Air Force 2.5 Ounce Silver Medal 9,953 9,953
U.S. Army 1 Ounce Silver Medal 16,816 16,865 49 0.29%
U.S. Marine Corps 1 Ounce Silver Medal 20,610 20,635 25 0.12%
U.S. Navy 1 Ounce Silver Medal 22,538 22,575 37 0.16%
U.S. Coast Guard 1 Ounce Silver Medal 18,687 18,696 9 0.05%
U.S. Air Force 1 Ounce Silver Medal 21,933 21,948 15 0.07%

American Liberty Products

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2023-W $100 American Liberty Gold Coin 12,188 12,188
2023-P American Liberty Silver Medal 34,861 34,946 85 0.24%
2022-P American Liberty Silver Medal 74,415 74,415
2021-W $100 American Liberty Gold Coin 12,471 12,471
2019-W $100 American Liberty Gold Coin 24,609 24,609
2019-P American Liberty Silver Medal 44,928 44,928
2018-W $10 American Liberty Gold Coin 69,851 69,881 30 0.04%
2017 American Liberty Silver Four-Medal Set* 32,647 32,647
2017-S Enhanced Uncirculated Coin Set* 210,419 210,419
2017-W $100 American Liberty Gold Coin 49,705 49,700 -5 -0.01%
2017-P Proof American Liberty Silver Medal* 55,187 55,187

Clad Proof Sets

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2024 Proof Set 299,592 302,224 2,632 0.88%
2023 Proof Set* 369,233 369,233
2022 Proof Set* 400,001 400,001
2021 Proof Set* 512,866 512,866
2020 Proof Set* 464,730 464,730
2019 Proof Set* 601,364 601,364
2018 Proof Set* 517,081 517,081
2017 Proof Set* 568,678 568,678
2024 American Innovation Dollars Proof Set 52,041 52,251 210 0.40%
2023 American Innovation Dollars Proof Set 57,835 57,885 50 0.09%
2022 American Innovation Dollars Proof Set 82,048 82,093 45 0.05%
2021 American Innovation Dollars Proof Set 88,529 88,552 23 0.03%
2020 American Innovation Dollars Proof Set 108,409 108,407 -2 0.00%
2019 American Innovation Dollars Proof Set 149,894 149,892 -2 0.00%
2024 American Women Quarters Proof Set 44,238 44,373 135 0.31%
2023 American Women Quarters Proof Set 57,685 57,716 31 0.05%
2022 American Women Quarters Proof Set* 42,821 42,821
2020 America the Beautiful Quarters Proof Set* 64,242 64,242
2019 America the Beautiful Quarters Proof Set 84,697 84,697
2018 America the Beautiful Quarters Proof Set* 86,697 86,697

Silver Proof Sets

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2024 Silver Proof Set 147,253 148,022 769 0.52%
2023 Silver Proof Set 194,732 194,777 45 0.02%
2022 Silver Proof Set* 249,373 249,373
2021 Silver Proof Set* 305,851 306,045 194 0.06%
2020 Silver Proof Set* 313,183 313,183
2019 Silver Proof Set* 415,384 415,384
2018 Silver Proof Set* 332,273 332,273
2018 Silver Reverse Proof Set* 199,116 199,116
2024 American Women Quarters Silver Proof Set 32,920 32,968 48 0.15%
2023 American Women Quarters Silver Proof Set 45,622 45,630 8 0.02%
2022 American Women Quarters Silver Proof Set 57,724 57,724
2020 America the Beautiful Quarters Silver Proof Set* 64,012 64,012
2019 America the Beautiful Quarters Silver Proof Set* 78,588 78,588
2018 America the Beautiful Quarters Silver Proof Set* 79,301 79,301
2024 Congratulations Gift Set 25,308 25,343 35 0.14%
2023 Congratulations Gift Set 39,284 39,284
2022 Congratulations Gift Set 29,710 29,710
2021 Congratulations Gift Set* 39,997 39,997
2020 Congratulations Gift Set* 24,468 24,468
2019 Congratulations Gift Set* 31,638 31,638
2023 Limited Edition Silver Proof Set 27,502 27,835 333 1.21%
2022 Limited Edition Silver Proof Set 49,728 49,728
2021 Limited Edition Silver Proof Set 49,852 49,852
2020 Limited Edition Silver Proof Set* 50,061 50,061

US Mint Uncirculated Sets

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2024 Uncirculated Mint Set 139,699 140,831 1,132 0.81%
2023 Uncirculated Mint Set 184,197 184,246 49 0.03%
2022 Uncirculated Mint Set* 249,932 249,932
2021 Uncirculated Mint Set 231,781 231,859 78 0.03%
2020 Uncirculated Mint Set* 211,787 211,787
2019 Uncirculated Mint Set* 346,117 346,117
2018 Uncirculated Mint Set* 257,536 257,536
2017 Uncirculated Mint Set* 286,813 286,813

Kids Coin Sets

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2019 Youth Coin and Currency Set 24,889 24,889
2019 Explore and Discover Coin Set 44,922 44,937 15 0.03%
2019 Rocketship* 49,921 49,921
2014 Coin Discovery Set* 13,151 13,151

Ornaments

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2024 Mighty Minters Ornament 2,211 2,269 58 2.62%
2024 U.S. Mint Ornament 3,344 3,507 163 4.87%
2024 Rev. Dr. Pauli Murray Ornament 802 805 3 0.37%
2024 Patsy Takemoto Mink Ornament 819 822 3 0.37%
2024 Dr. Mary Edwards Walker Ornament 857 859 2 0.23%
2024 Celia Cruz Ornament 1,685 1,713 28 1.66%
2024 Zitkala-Ša Ornament 803 804 1 0.12%
2023 U.S. Mint Ornament 5,162 5,175 13 0.25%
2023 Mighty Minters Ornament 3,137 3,142 5 0.16%
2022 U.S. Mint Ornament 5,874 5,882 8 0.14%
2022 Mighty Minters Ornament 4,183 4,188 5 0.12%
2023 Bessie Coleman Ornament 1,279 1,280 1 0.08%
2023 Edith Kanakaʻole Ornament; 1,462 1,463 1 0.07%
2023 Eleanor Roosevelt Ornament 1,786 1,789 3 0.17%
2023 Jovita Idar Ornament 1,291 1,292 1 0.08%
2023 Maria Tallchief Ornament 1,516 1,517 1 0.07%
2022 Maya Angelou Ornament 3,386 3,387 1 0.03%
2022 Dr. Sally Ride Ornament 3,474 3,475 1 0.03%
2022 Wilma Mankiller Ornament 2,376 2,377 1 0.04%
2022 Nina Otero-Warren Ornament 1,855 1,856 1 0.05%
2022 Anna May Wong Ornament 3,317 3,317
2021 Mighty Minters Ornament 4,821 4,821
2021 U.S. Mint Ornament 7,969 7,969
2020 Mighty Minters Ornament 4,588 4,588
2020 U.S. Mint Ornament 6,712 6,712
2019 Mighty Minters Ornament 7,105 7,105
2019 U.S. Mint Ornament 11,986 11,986

Proof & Reverse Proof Silver Eagles

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2024-S Proof Silver Eagle 114,382 114,708 326 0.29%
2024-S Proof Silver Eagle (Bulk – 40 Coins) 915 915
2024-W Proof Silver Eagle 273,497 273,796 299 0.11%
2024-W Proof Silver Eagle (Bulk – 40 Coins) 1,543 1,543
2023-S Proof Silver Eagle 182,146 182,186 40 0.02%
2023-S Proof Silver Eagle (Bulk – 40 Coins) 743 743
2022-S Proof Silver Eagle 199,698 199,698
2022-S Proof Silver Eagle (Bulk – 40 Coins) 2,925 2,925
2023-W Proof Silver Eagle 436,484 436,484
2023-W Proof Silver Eagle (Bulk – 40 Coins) 2,118 2,118
2022-W Proof Silver Eagle 496,994 496,994
2022-W Proof Silver Eagle (Bulk – 40 Coins) 4,171 4,171
2021 Reverse Proof American Silver Eagle Two-Coin Set* 124,916 124,916
2021-S Proof Silver Eagle, Type 2* 199,744 199,744
2021-S Proof Silver Eagle, Type 2 (Bulk – 40 Coins)* 652 652
2021-W Proof Silver Eagle, Type 2* 300,096 300,096
2021-W Proof Silver Eagle, Type 2 (Bulk – 40 Coins)* 2,142 2,142
2021-W Proof Silver Eagle, Type 1* 299,898 299,898
2021-W Proof Silver Eagle, Type 1 (Bulk – 40 Coins)* 686 686

Uncirculated Silver Eagles

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2024 92,109 92,201 92 0.10%
2023 139,350 139,366 16 0.01%
2022 172,812 172,838 26 0.02%
2022 Bulk 40 989 989
2021* 174,933 174,933
2021 Bulk 40* 324 324

2024 Proof American Eagle Gold Coins

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
1 oz 3,031 3,041 10 0.33%
1/2 oz 1,469 1,485 16 1.09%
1/4 oz 4,732 4,752 20 0.42%
1/10 oz 8,095 8,157 62 0.77%
4-Coin Set 4,483 4,487 4 0.09%

2023 Proof American Eagle Gold Coins

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
1 oz 6,478 6,478
1/2 oz 2,011 2,011
1/4 oz 4,492 4,492
1/10 oz 13,424 13,424
4-Coin Set 9,981 9,981

2022 Proof American Eagle Gold Coins

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
1 oz 5,913 5,913
1/2 oz 1,970 1,970
1/4 oz 4,464 4,464
1/10 oz 13,806 13,806
4-Coin Set 9,906 9,906

Uncirculated American Eagle Gold Coins

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2024 2,582 2,585 3 0.12%
2023 6,483 6,486 3 0.05%
2022 8,899 8,899
2021* 9,063 9,063
2020* 6,284 6,284
2019* 5,851 5,851

Proof American Buffalo Gold Coins

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2024 Proof Gold Buffalo 7,884 7,918 34 0.43%
2023 Proof Gold Buffalo 15,711 15,710 -1 -0.01%
2022 Proof Gold Buffalo 15,943 15,943
2021 Proof Gold Buffalo* 16,976 16,976
2020 Proof Gold Buffalo* 11,887 11,887
2019 Proof Gold Buffalo* 14,844 14,844

Barbara Bush First Spouse Gold Coins

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2020-W Proof 2,967 2,967
2020-W Uncirculated 1,969 1,969

Proof American Platinum Eagle

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2024 4,913 4,918 5 0.10%
2023 8,437 8,437
2022 9,942 9,942
2021 9,884 9,884
2020 9,835 9,835
2019 11,268 11,268
2018 16,185 16,185
2017* 8,890 8,890

American Palladium Eagle

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2024-W Proof 2,830 2,855 25 0.88%
2023-W Uncirculated 5,768 5,770 2 0.03%
2022-W Reverse Proof 7,397 7,397
2021-W Proof 5,170 5,170
2020-W Uncirculated 9,746 9,746
2019-W Reverse Proof 18,839 18,839
2018-W Proof* 14,986 14,986

Presidential Silver Medals

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2024 Grover Cleveland Presidential Silver Medal 13,784 13,880 96 0.70%
2024 Chester A. Arthur Presidential Silver Medal 10,627 10,659 32 0.30%
2024 James A. Garfield Presidential Silver Medal 11,477 11,498 21 0.18%
2024 Rutherford B. Hayes Presidential Silver Medal 11,695 11,706 11 0.09%
2023 Ulysses S. Grant Presidential Silver Medal 13,693 13,697 4 0.03%
2023 Andrew Johnson Presidential Silver Medal 12,676 12,680 4 0.03%
2023 Abraham Lincoln Presidential Silver Medal 19,435 19,446 11 0.06%
2023 James Buchanan Presidential Silver Medal 12,463 12,464 1 0.01%
2021 Franklin Pierce Presidential Silver Medal 12,693 12,694 1 0.01%
2022 Millard Fillmore Presidential Silver Medal 12,804 12,805 1 0.01%
2022 Zachary Taylor Presidential Silver Medal 13,191 13,195 4 0.03%
2022 James Knox Polk Presidential Silver Medal 13,430 13,431 1 0.01%
2021 John Tyler Presidential Silver Medal 13,817 13,818 1 0.01%
2021 William Henry Harrison Presidential Silver Medal 13,785 13,786 1 0.01%
2021 Martin Van Buren Presidential Silver Medal 13,924 13,924
2020 Andrew Jackson Presidential Silver Medal 16,855 16,856 1 0.01%
2019 John Quincy Adams Presidential Silver Medal 14,995 14,997 2 0.01%
2019 James Monroe Presidential Silver Medal 15,453 15,457 4 0.03%
2019 James Madison Presidential Silver Medal 17,123 17,126 3 0.02%
2019 Thomas Jefferson Presidential Silver Medal 24,586 24,588 2 0.01%
2018 George Washington Presidential Silver Medal 35,744 35,752 8 0.02%
2018 John Adams Presidential Silver Medal 23,874 23,877 3 0.01%

American Innovation Reverse Proof Sets

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2023 39,043 39,069 26 0.07%
2022 49,791 49,792 1 0.00%
2021 49,815 49,815

2024 American Innovation Dollars – Missouri

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 7,082 7,107 25 0.35%
25-coin roll set (D) 6,492 6,510 18 0.28%
100-coin bag (P) 2,828 2,835 7 0.25%
100-coin bag (D) 1,818 1,832 14 0.77%

2024 American Innovation Dollars – Maine

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 7,821 7,829 8 0.10%
25-coin roll set (D) 6,919 6,933 14 0.20%
100-coin bag (P) 2,679 2,688 9 0.34%
100-coin bag (D) 2,031 2,039 8 0.39%

2024 American Innovation Dollars – Alabama

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 8,384 8,384
25-coin roll set (D) 7,443 7,443
100-coin bag (P) 3,149 3,149
100-coin bag (D) 2,948 2,948

2024 American Innovation Dollars – Illinois

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 8,018 8,033 15 0.19%
25-coin roll set (D) 7,324 7,324
100-coin bag (P) 2,303 2,307 4 0.17%
100-coin bag (D) 2,304 2,308 4 0.17%

2023 American Innovation Dollars – Mississippi

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 7,952 7,953 1 0.01%
25-coin roll set (D) 6,883 6,883
100-coin bag (P) 2,295 2,299 4 0.17%
100-coin bag (D) 2,331 2,339 8 0.34%

2023 American Innovation Dollars – Indiana

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 8,022 8,022
25-coin roll set (D) 6,994 6,994
100-coin bag (P) 3,008 3,008
100-coin bag (D) 2,794 2,794

2023 American Innovation Dollars – Louisiana

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 7,993 7,993
25-coin roll set (D) 6,990 6,990
100-coin bag (P) 2,971 2,971
100-coin bag (D) 2,750 2,750

2023 American Innovation Dollars – Ohio

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 8,016 8,016
25-coin roll set (D) 6,978 6,978
100-coin bag (P) 2,967 2,968 1 0.03%
100-coin bag (D) 2,744 2,744

2022 American Innovation Dollars – Tennessee

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 7,014 7,014
25-coin roll set (D) 7,010 7,010
100-coin bag (P) 2,781 2,785 4 0.14%
100-coin bag (D) 2,786 2,786

2022 American Innovation Dollars – Kentucky

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 7,009 7,009
25-coin roll set (D) 7,002 7,002
100-coin bag (P) 2,771 2,771
100-coin bag (D) 2,779 2,779

2022 American Innovation Dollars – Vermont

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 7,023 7,023
25-coin roll set (D) 7,011 7,011
100-coin bag (P) 2,787 2,787
100-coin bag (D) 2,778 2,778

2022 American Innovation Dollars – Rhode Island

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 7,010 7,010
25-coin roll set (D) 7,007 7,007
100-coin bag (P) 2,789 2,789
100-coin bag (D) 2,787 2,787

2021 American Innovation Dollars – North Carolina

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 7,010 7,010
25-coin roll set (D) 7,018 7,018
100-coin bag (P) 2,789 2,789
100-coin bag (D) 2,790 2,790

2021 American Innovation Dollars – New York

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 7,006 7,006
25-coin roll set (D) 7,013 7,013
100-coin bag (P) 2,786 2,786
100-coin bag (D) 2,785 2,785

2021 American Innovation Dollars – Virginia

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 7,015 7,015
25-coin roll set (D) 7,010 7,010
100-coin bag (P) 2,796 2,796
100-coin bag (D) 2,786 2,786

2021 American Innovation Dollars – New Hampshire

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll set (P) 7,017 7,017
25-coin roll set (D) 7,017 7,017
100-coin bag (P) 2,789 2,789
100-coin bag (D) 2,790 2,790

2020 American Innovation Dollars – South Carolina

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Reverse Proof (S) 43,210 43,227 17 0.04%
25-coin roll set (P) 6,378 6,378
25-coin roll set (D) 6,399 6,399
100-coin bag (P) 2,734 2,734
100-coin bag (D) 2,378 2,378

2020 American Innovation Dollars – Maryland

Old

Sales

Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Reverse Proof (S) 49,852 49,852
25-coin roll set (P) 6,493 6,493
25-coin roll set (D) 6,471 6,471
100-coin bag (P) 2,725 2,725
100-coin bag (D) 2,737 2,737

2020 American Innovation Dollars – Massachusetts

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Reverse Proof (S) 49,785 49,785
25-coin roll set (P) 6,486 6,486
25-coin roll set (D) 6,481 6,481
100-coin bag (P) 2,746 2,746
100-coin bag (D) 2,744 2,744

2020 American Innovation Dollars – Connecticut

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Reverse Proof (S) 47,526 47,535 9 0.02%
25-coin roll set (P) 6,496 6,496
25-coin roll set (D) 6,425 6,425
100-coin bag (P) 2,736 2,736
100-coin bag (D) 2,747 2,747

2019 American Innovation Dollars – Georgia

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Reverse Proof (S) 47,833 47,851 18 0.04%
25-coin roll set (P) 8,092 8,092
25-coin roll set (D) 7,542 7,542
100-coin bag (P) 3,459 3,459
100-coin bag (D) 3,554 3,559 5 0.14%

2019 American Innovation Dollars – New Jersey

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Reverse Proof (S) 52,559 52,571 12 0.02%
25-coin roll set (P) 9,103 9,103
25-coin roll set (D) 8,043 8,043
100-coin bag (P) 3,941 3,941
100-coin bag (D) 3,586 3,586

2019 American Innovation Dollars – Pennsylvania

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Reverse Proof (S) 55,998 56,008 10 0.02%
25-coin roll set (P) 10,458 10,458
25-coin roll set (D) 8,536 8,536
100-coin bag (P) 3,689 3,689
100-coin bag (D) 3,055 3,055

2019 American Innovation Dollars – Delaware

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Reverse Proof (S) 71,336 71,349 13 0.02%
25-coin roll set (P) 9,108 9,108
25-coin roll set (D) 8,372 8,372
100-coin bag (P) 3,203 3,203
100-coin bag (D) 3,385 3,385

2018 American Innovation Dollars

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Reverse Proof (S)* 74,720 74,720
Proof Coin (S) 255,450 255,448 -2 0.00%
25-coin roll set (P) 22,902 22,902
25-coin roll set (D) 25,725 25,725
100-coin bag (P)* 2,935 2,935
100-coin bag (D)* 2,954 2,954

George H.W. Bush Coin & Chronicles Set

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
$1 Coin & Set 11,521 11,521

2020 Bush Presidential $1 Coin & First Spouse Medal Set

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
$1 Coin & Set 9,876 9,876

2020 George H.W. Bush Presidential $1 Coins

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
25-coin roll (P) 24,922 24,922
25-coin roll (D) 24,739 24,793 54 0.22%
100-coin bag (P) 2,695 2,695
100-coin bag (D) 2,098 2,098
250-coin bag (P) 4,169 4,173 4 0.10%
250-coin bag (D) 5,483 5,482 -1 -0.02%

Native American Dollar Rolls

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2024-P Native American $1 25 Coin Roll 13,761 13,823 62 0.45%
2024-D Native American $1 25 Coin Roll 13,170 13,247 77 0.58%
2024-P Native American $1 100-Coin Bag 1,746 1,746
2024-D Native American $1 100-Coin Bag 1,846 1,846
2024-P Native American $1 250-Coin Box 1,085 1,089 4 0.37%
2024-D Native American $1 250-Coin Box 1,097 1,109 12 1.09%
2023-P Native American $1 25 Coin Roll 13,922 13,922
2023-D Native American $1 25 Coin Roll 13,954 13,954
2023-P Native American $1 100-Coin Bag 1,695 1,695
2023-D Native American $1 100-Coin Bag 1,694 1,694
2023-P Native American $1 250-Coin Box 1,654 1,663 9 0.54%
2023-D Native American $1 250-Coin Box 1,618 1,618
2022-P Native American $1 25 Coin Roll 13,996 13,996
2022-D Native American $1 25 Coin Roll 13,965 13,965
2022-P Native American $1 100-Coin Bag 1,699 1,699
2022-D Native American $1 100-Coin Bag 1,614 1,614
2022-P Native American $1 250-Coin Box 1,698 1,698
2022-D Native American $1 250-Coin Box 1,699 1,699

Kennedy Half Dollar Rolls

Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
2024-dated 200-coin bag (P&D) 7,267 7,340 73 1.00%
2024-dated 2-roll set (P&D) 26,253 26,255 2 0.01%
2023-dated 200-coin bag (P&D) 11,166 11,166
2023-dated 2-roll set (P&D) 24,987 24,987
2022-dated 200-coin bag (P&D) 10,999 10,999
2022-dated 2-roll set (P&D) 21,926 21,926
2021-dated 200-coin bag (P&D)* 9,976 9,976
2021-dated 2-roll set (P&D)* 21,989 21,989
2020-dated 200-coin bag (P&D)* 11,776 11,776
2020-dated 2-roll set (P&D)* 24,312 24,312
2019-dated 200-coin bag (P&D)* 11,534 11,534
2019-dated 2-roll set (P&D)* 24,132 24,132

2024 Celia Cruz Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 12,408 12,477 69 0.56%
100-Coin Bag (P) 3,582 3,620 38 1.06%
100-Coin Bag (D) 2,104 2,113 9 0.43%
Two-Roll Set 5,195 5,261 66 1.27%

2024 Dr. Mary Edwards Walker Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 10,627 10,642 15 0.14%
100-Coin Bag (P) 1,321 1,338 17 1.29%
100-Coin Bag (D) 1,114 1,120 6 0.54%
Two-Roll Set 2,463 2,465 2 0.08%

2024 Patsy Takemoto Mink Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 11,318 11,326 8 0.07%
100-Coin Bag (P) 1,547 1,553 6 0.39%
100-Coin Bag (D) 1,265 1,267 2 0.16%
Two-Roll Set 2,749 2,750 1 0.04%

2024 Rev. Dr. Pauli Murray Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 12,149 12,152 3 0.02%
100-Coin Bag (P) 1,858 1,863 5 0.27%
100-Coin Bag (D) 1,482 1,485 3 0.20%
Two-Roll Set 2,983 2,986 3 0.10%

2023 Maria Tallchief Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 12,555 12,555
100-Coin Bag (P) 2,072 2,079 7 0.34%
100-Coin Bag (D) 1,774 1,777 3 0.17%
Two-Roll Set 3,606 3,612 6 0.17%

2023 Jovita Idar Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 12,596 12,596
100-Coin Bag (P) 4,042 4,044 2 0.05%
100-Coin Bag (D) 3,621 3,623 2 0.06%
Two-Roll Set 3,928 3,933 5 0.13%

2023 Eleanor Roosevelt Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 12,678 12,678
100-Coin Bag (P) 4,330 4,332 2 0.05%
100-Coin Bag (D) 3,982 3,982
Two-Roll Set 4,579 4,582 3 0.07%

2023 Edith Kanakaʻole Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 12,585 12,585
100-Coin Bag (P) 7,367 7,369 2 0.03%
100-Coin Bag (D) 4,586 4,590 4 0.09%
Two-Roll Set 5,819 5,821 2 0.03%

2023 Bessie Coleman Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 12,509 12,509
100-Coin Bag (P) 5,664 5,667 3 0.05%
100-Coin Bag (D) 4,957 4,957
Two-Roll Set 5,970 5,972 2 0.03%

2022 Anna May Wong Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 7,617 7,617
100-Coin Bag (P) 1,860 1,860
100-Coin Bag (D) 1,858 1,858
Two-Roll Set 5,936 5,936

2022 Nina Otero-Warren Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 7,639 7,639
100-Coin Bag (P) 1,856 1,856
100-Coin Bag (D) 1,858 1,858
Two-Roll Set 5,890 5,890

2022 Wilma Mankiller Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 7,616 7,616
100-Coin Bag (P) 1,859 1,859
100-Coin Bag (D) 1,833 1,833
Two-Roll Set 5,918 5,918

2022 Dr. Sally Ride Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 7,603 7,603
100-Coin Bag (P) 1,854 1,854
100-Coin Bag (D) 1,852 1,852
Two-Roll Set 5,926 5,926

2022 Maya Angelou Quarters

  Old
Sales
Latest
Sales
Gain/
Loss
%
Increase
Three-Roll Set 7,588 7,588
100-Coin Bag (P) 1,858 1,858
100-Coin Bag (D) 1,861 1,861
Two-Roll Set 5,940 5,940

 

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Kaiser Wilhelm

Looks like the US Mint’s three annual flagship items are doing just fine this year while the 2024 Morgan and Peace silver dollars are tanking compared to their previous go-around. I think there might be more that just a bit of a lesson to be learned here.

Antonio

Good, good, more for meeeee…… 😀

Kaiser Wilhelm

Now there, Antonio, is a positive attitude!

Major D

Kaiser, I’d say “doing fine” in the relative sense. After 31 weeks 24RG is at 302,224, whereas 23RG was at 364,511 and 22RG at 398,645 after the same amount of time. For 24RJ after 7 weeks is 140,831 vs 23RJ at 169,269 and 22RJ at 169,427 after the same amount of time. For 24RH after 16 weeks is 148,022 vs 23RH at 183,262 and 22RH at 204,582 after the same amount of time. On a product-to-product basis sales appear to me to be down across the board compared to the previous year’s offering.

Major D

Here’s the year-to-year comparative time period sales for the Morgan and Peace Proof (XF & XL) and Uncirculated (XE & XH):

After the first 5 weeks 24XF sold 163,057 vs 23XF at 310,848 & 24XL sold 148,205 vs 23XL at 287,636;

After the first 14 weeks 24XE sold 161,312 vs 23XE at 260,487 & 24XH sold 154,283 vs 23XH at 258,896.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Major D,

Many thanks for getting into the kind of nitty-gritty numbers work that allowed for a far more inclusive, complete and above all accurate version of this story to be told. All in all, I believe it to be exceedingly fortunate that in the final analysis at least one of us was ready, able and willing to get down to a much more exacting level of detail regarding the various pertinent facts and figures for the five particular Mint products in question both for the previous years of 2022 and 2023 and for the current year 2024 to date.

Last edited 1 month ago by Kaiser Wilhelm
Major D

You’re very welcome! Some really big rate of sales declines, Kaiser– which lead to revenue declines. I wonder how the Mint is going to spin this on the 2024 Annual Report.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Well, Major D, the Mint can always go with either TBA or N/A.

Antonio

Do you think that the program will be discontinued as of 2028 due to “lack of bullion available”?

Kaiser Wilhelm

Antonio,

I’m not sure which Mint program you are making reference to. By the way, by “bullion” do you possibly mean silver planchets?

Rick

I hope so.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Hope springs eternal.

Tony@GA

Really makes no difference – the sales – they’ll just offer it for the next 10 years plus until it sells out.

Nothing to see here…. Keep moving….

Kaiser Wilhelm

Tony@GA,

Technically speaking, Tony, there is always something to see; what really matters and decides what we do see is how much if anything it happens to mean to us. 😉

CaliSkier

What are these Flowing Hair Silver Medals currently worth? Pinehurst is offering a bounty, if that tells you anything? Although they say only Mint Fresh sealed coins will be accepted, they are offering 3 pricing tiers. $125 for (opened), $150 for (Mint sealed) and $2,000 for privy medals. Directions seem a bit confusing as on one hand they say opened will get rejected yet the offer $125 (opened), $150 (mint sealed) and $2,000 for privy w/no mention as sealed or unsealed. Anyhow, just thought some here may want to know how one dealer is playing this game. You can see… Read more »

Rick

Thanks Cali,
$2000 when buying someone’s raw privy tells me that they would be flipping a graded 70 for $5000, maybe more? 1794 is a small mintage with any moderns, even if it’s a medal(of such a classic design).. How many 70’s will spawn from that mintage? That is the question…
I could see the allure of some quick cash, but I think I would pass on that “deal”

Kaiser Wilhelm

Rick,

As always you’ve hit this (likely somewhat rusty) nail right on its (possibly rather) crooked head. After all, since what we’re dealing with here is a Silver Medal whose most extraordinary boost in value comes from something you can’t possibly see until and unless you unpack, i.e. open the Mint box containing the item itself, in what manner could it possibly make any sense to throw that potential “big win” away via a cleverly-orchestrated sealed box fire sale?

Rich

Rick, the 2024 Flowing Hair Silver Medal “230” privy mintage of 1,794 is indeed a small mintage for any of the moderns. For comparative purposes, some other “moderns” with ultra low mintage figures are: 2024-W Uncirculated Greatest Generation $5 Gold Coin: latest sales (10/13/24) = 1,159 2024-W Uncirculated Harriet Tubman $5 Gold Coin: latest sales (10/13/24) = 1,201 2022-W Uncirculated Negro Leagues Baseball $5 Gold Coin: final sales = 1,507 2022-W Uncirculated National Purple Heart $5 Gold Coin: final sales = 1,688 2021-W Uncirculated National Law Enforcement $5 Gold Coin: final sales = 1,753 2020-W $50 AGE Proof v75 privy:… Read more »

Kaiser Wilhelm

CaliSkier, “…they [Pinehurst] are offering 3 pricing tiers. $125 for (opened), $150 for (Mint sealed) and $2,000 for privy medals.” “I know I personally would have trust issues, wondering if they’d notify me about a sealed box having a privy,…” I think trust issues would be the least of your concerns since that consideration would most definitely not have any part to play in this particular transaction, CaliSkier. In fact, once you had completed the sale to Pinehurst of the unopened Mint Sealed Flowing Hair Silver Medal(s) for $150, the money you received as such would be your sole and entire… Read more »

Rich

Sir Kaiser, that deal sounds like the guitarist of Deez Nuts, Matt Rogers a.k.a. Real Bad.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Rich,

What’s the point of being a Kaiser if not to on occasion bestow a well earned award on a richly deserving person? As Der Kaiser it is therefore my singular honor and personal privilege to present you with five regal stars for the above related humorous masterpiece. Managing to combine all of Deez Nuts, Matt Rogers/Real Bad and the Pinehurst Scheme in one hysterical trope is most definitely a top flight achievement in anyone’s estimation!

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VinnieC

Hey the “AvailableCount” field is back on the US Mint Site. As a test case 24XL (2024 Peace Proof) reports 150,050 vs. 148,205 sales on the 10/13/2024 cumulative sales report and a product limit of 300,000.

I was on Collector’s Universe forum and some one reported about 7,500 of the Flowing Hair Silver Medal available early this morning before the HHL was removed. After reading this, I couldn’t check Flowing Hair because it was currently unavailable. I checked 24XL.

kia99

Super to know! Thanks VinnieC

Major D

Excellent! Thanks!

Major D

Here are some available counts as of 10:40 pm EDT October 16 plus sales as of October 13 = Projected Mintage +/- :

23RH: 63,641+194,777=258,418 Silver Proof Set
23XF: 16,643+359,956=376,599 + (443×40) 23XF040= 394,319 Proof Morgan
23XL: 50,374+326,093=376,467 + (438×40) 23XL040= 393,987 Proof Peace
24RG: 114,904+302,224=417,128 Proof Set
24RH: 20,566+148,022=168,588 Silver Proof Set
24RJ: 47,367+140,831=188,198 Unc Set
24XE: 112,902+161,312=274,214 + (316×40) 24XE040= 286,854 Unc Morgan
24XH: 119,556+154,283=273,839 + (309×40) 24XH040= 286,199 Unc Peace
24XF: 134,988+163,057=298,045 + (302×40) 24XF040= 310,125 Proof Morgan
24XL: 150,050+148,205=298,255 + (302×40) 24XL040= 310,335 Proof Peace

Rick

Thanks Vinnie,
So Mike Unser said,
“First day sales: 31,695 units, per Mint.”
And you said “About 7500 available early this morning”(per the forum)puts it at around 40,000 ordered? KCSO looks to have made a pretty good estimate. And that sounds quite reasonable for the mint to strike that many. The Mint would positively never strike all 75,000 medals initially, not a chance imo. And I hope they keep it that way, cap it off..
My medal shipped out today 7:00 p.m. Eastern, and I’m keeping it privy or no privy..

Major D

VinnieC, i just noticed that 24XL has a product limit, but no mintage limit– adding in the Bulk40 (24XL040) sales will put it over 300,000.

Kaiser Wilhelm

VinnieC,

I’m not sure if I should thank you for that bit of information or cuss you out instead considering how I can now go back to having something else to obsess about again!

VinnieC

Sorry Major D to trick you into doing the heavy lifting
Sorry Kaiser to add more craziness into your life.

BTW the other forum also mentioned PCGS population reports were available (from the advance purchasers?) for the FH. MS69 = 418; MS70=735; MS69 Privy = 10; MS70 Privy = 40

Kaiser Wilhelm

VinnieC,

Sorry to make you feel you had to be sorry about anything. In that respect please allow me to reference the unofficial motto of the British Royal Family, “Never complain, never explain.”

But hold on there, as I can already see the main difficulty, which is if we didn’t complain and/or explain on this site we would be out of things to talk about.

7onjrz
Major D

LOL. Not to worry, there’s a lot more to lift.

CaliSkier

AKBob, although the expected ship date was for Nov 5, my 2 “2024 (P) Silver Eagle NGC MS70 – First Star Privy 1 of First 50,000 Releases” have shipped and are expected to be delivered on Monday, Oct 21st! Hope yours ship soon, if not already in transit. Again, excellent play getting those Black Label 1 of 250 versions and capitalizing on a quick flip!

Kaiser Wilhelm

Congrats, CaliSkier, on yet another coveted coin coup; way to go, my friend!

Last edited 1 month ago by Kaiser Wilhelm
CaliSkier

Thanks Kaiser!

AKBob

Cali, Thanks for the heads up. My one white core shipped out yesterday. I’ve already sold those black core ones. I purchased them for $99.99 each and sold them for $200 each. It was a quick $500 profit minus fees. As soon as I saw that it was 1 of 250, I knew those (black core) would be a very easy Sell and it was. I’m happy you took advantage of the offering. Yours (white core) are now selling for $200. So you have an upside of $200 already for the two you purchased. Your brother is going to be… Read more »

CaliSkier

Congratulations to everyone that picked up a 2024 Flowing Hair Silver medal yesterday! Hopefully the quality will be all that you desire. Let us all know what you think when you receive. Check the obverse and reverse for possible finning around or along the rim.

VinnieC

VanHalen on Collector’s Universe reports a finned rim on on of his medals.

https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1107672/u-s-mint-2024-lottery-230th-anniversary-flowing-hair-silver-medal/p14

VinnieC

FH gone in a blip at the 7:30 AM EDT fire sale.

East Coast Guru

I was thinking about this flowing hair medal. Too bad it couldn’t have been done as a business strike vs the porgan unc. strikes we have become accustomed to. Maybe next year if or when they do the 2025 version.

Antonio

They could do a draped bust version.

Kaiser Wilhelm

East Coast Guru,

By the way the Porgan strikes are made are you referring to Burnished Uncirculated?

East Coast Guru

Yes Kaiser. I don’t really care for that finish. The ATB’s had that finish too. It’s got a blah factor that is uninteresting to me.

kia99

May I agree and speculate at the same time? The circulating business strike is somewhat variable as the die is used and I suspect the MS70 club would find most of the strikes to be inadequate, then reject and return them. The laser frosted “uncirculated” finish masks minor imperfections on the burnished planchets and gives a nice uniform finish. But it is, as you say, bland. Imperfections add character to coins and people.

Major D

kia99 and East Coast Guru, what someone may call bland I may call pure. I’m a big fan of the Burnished Uncirculated finish, but as Kaiser likes to say, “to each their own”.

Major D

In doing the math, if the FHS sell-out contained all 75,000 (the mintage limit) the odds of a “230” privy are about 1 in 48. And if it contained around 40,000 (as Rich and others speculated) and all of the “230” privy were included up front, then the odds become about 1 in 22. Those are really good odds. I’d say one (or more) of us commenting here (and on the last article) may be a lucky winner. Whoever it is, please let us all know. It looks like the Mint has sent them out in record time, so we’ll… Read more »

Last edited 1 month ago by Major D
CaliSkier

Major D, glad to see you back in this neck of the woods. Wouldn’t the privy marked coins on the entire mintage of 75,000 equate to 1 privy marked medal for every 41.8/42 vs 1 in 48? I’m guessing you just made a simple typo, omitting or missing the 1 and decimal point? So the odds are slightly better, that 1 or more readers of Coin News will receive a privy “230” silver medal? If the Mint only produced 40,000, it would be interesting to know, if they produced all 1,794 privy medals, or a percentage based on 40,000/75,000, equating… Read more »

Major D

CaliSkier, yes, right you are! 1,794/75,000=0.02392:::::: Inverse=41.806 which rounds to 42. So, 1 in 42. Guess it must have been a dyslectic moment taking 41.8 and making 48 out of it. Always good to have your second set of eyes on the calculator. There’s no telling when it comes to the Mint as to how it gets dispersed. My guess is that all of the privy and signed coas were done up front and part of the initial release.

Rich

CaliSkier, have you seen this posting from Tony Stubblefield earlier today, as it may shed some light on the questions you posed? I contacted the mint and asked them about the advance release coins, and if that happened the 1794 coins with the privy marks were already gone to the dealers: here is their reply : Dear Tony Stubblefield, This letter is in response to your recent correspondence to the United States Mint. Unfortunately, we are unable to speak on products advertised on other websites other than the United States Mint. However, we can assure you that the 230th Anniversary… Read more »

Rich

The odds of receiving a 230-privy of 1 in 22 (based on 40,000 medals) is about twice as good as the odds of 1 in 42 (based on 75,000 medals) [please note the correction]. And yes, one or more of us commenters here will likely be one of the lucky ones.

Major D

Thanks. Correction noted and appreciated.

CaliSkier

Gold now at a new all time high of $2,708 on Kitco currently! Cha Ching! Precious metals are definitely seeing some action tonight on the World Market! Silver over $32!

Last edited 1 month ago by CaliSkier
Rich

Totally, Cali! Gold and Silver is seeing some serious FOMO, with today’s closing spot gold at $2,720 and Silver at $33.66

East Coast Guru

Any predictions on the gold flowing hair coin price? I am guessing $3,540. Assuming a $2,800+ average spot price.
The grid only goes up to $2,999.99.

Last edited 1 month ago by East Coast Guru
East Coast Guru

By the way, all the artist images I have found on line for the gold flowing hair show the coin as a matte or burnished proof. No mirror on the coin. Any info out there on the type of proof this will be?

CaliSkier

East Coast Guru, I’ve only managed to see similar renderings of more of a burnished proof type finish. More or less a matte/burnished field with a slightly shiny burnished relief on the actual device/design. Kind of a matte/burnished reverse proof type finish if you will. See this sites(below) renderings for an idea of how I interpret current imagages I’ve seen. These will be way too pricey for my very limited budget, however I think they would look awesome as rendered in the link below vs a traditional proof finish with mirrored fields and frosted devices. Either way, I think those… Read more »

Keep Calm & Stack On

ECG – the artist are taking the FHS and overlaying a gold tint layer (color formatting) over it, that’s how those are originating,

CaliSkier

East Coast, I’m going with a launch day price of $3,670 based on the current “pricing range table”. That would be a spot price of in the range of $2,650-$2,699.99. I’m slightly puzzled by your post? If gold is at $2,800 spot on launch day, the current table would place the price at $3,820 vs your estimate of $3,540. My thoughts are, since the 2024 Flowing Hair Silver Medal is priced the same($104) as the 2024 Liberty and Britannia Silver Medal, that the 2024 Flowing Hair Gold Coin will follow suit, as having the same price as a 2024 Liberty… Read more »

East Coast Guru

Cali, I tried to respond but I added a link to my reply to the mint’s site grid I was referring to. My comment was under moderation and then deleted. Anyway, the grid I found must have been an older version.

Major D

thought I’d try
2024 Pricing Grid

Keep Calm & Stack On

$3,820 Assumes $2,800 + $1,020 premium, (like L&B) Spot may be over $2,850, though pricing grid will lag Rationale – $20B coming out of cash and into stocks, bonds, gold, and crypto China & India central banks continued buying Costco gold feverish orgy sales pace, they can’t keep any around a day, these aren’t collectors, these are the masses, $h!+ Show election risk and fear Middle East teetering on an all out war Strait of Hormuz risk impacting oil, which IMO influences AU Lowering Fed Reserve interest rates and continued devaluation of USD $ National Debt and financial issues come… Read more »

Rick

Bingo,
Except I think $20B is just scratching the surface.. .

Rich

Sounds about right, KC&S. The overall bullish sentiment in Gold should yield $3,000 gold by year’s end. With gold at $2,700 now, mid-October, and at $3,000 by end-December, a price average of $2,800-2,850 over the 5-day period of Nov. 6 – Nov. 8 and Nov. 11 – Nov. 12 is quite possible for setting the price of the Flowing Hair Gold Coin on Nov. 13th for launch on the 14th.

Keep Calm & Stack On

Spot AU this morning is: $2,727.., another 3% up = $2,808

Which irks me to no end, as every time I go to buy into a high dollar USM AU release, damn if the gold price doesn’t run up, every frigg’n time!

Pray for peace and a snowy blizzard everywhere for two weeks, to chill things out….

Rick, Rick, Major D, & crew – Previous Thread > Appreciate your input on FHG release thoughts, good stuff.., think I’ll get out the dart board and throw a dart… hehe,

Last edited 1 month ago by Keep Calm & Stack On
AKBob

KCSO, I hear you! I remember back over on MNB years ago, someone brought up the fact that every time the US Mint was about to do a gold coin release, gold always goes up and the Mint ends up making more money! I thot to myself back then, oh well, I don’t buy gold anyways (back then I couldn’t afford gold) so I didn’t pay too much attention to that. Now, I’m a gold bug and I’ve noticed that whenever the Mint is about to release a gold coin, gold goes up magically! I now sound like that person… Read more »

CaliSkier

So, there’s only 27 days until launch of the 2024 Flowing Hair Gold $1 1oz coin and still no image provided by the US Mint? Somewhat hard to believe that they haven’t produced a, or “the” prototype representing, exactly what they intend to produce? Odd IMO, that the marketing department hasn’t taken the bull by the horns and made this happen. Either way, they will sell out, however from a business model, or typical business practice, this just seems so very strange to me? I’m trying to think of other examples or an industry, where this would be a normal… Read more »

Jeff Legan

Hi CaliSkier,
Could it be so the Chinese can’t have a perfect counterfeit ready by day one of the release?

CaliSkier

Hey Jeff, I guess that’s a somewhat plausible theory? Nice to know your still out there lurking behind the scenes! Enjoy the rest of your day and don’t be a stranger! Join us here more frequently if you find the time or inspiration. Cali

Jeff Legan

Thanks CaliSkier,
I will pipe up when I feel I have something to add to the coin talk, which is rare, or if no one else speaks up when insults start flying here again. Looks like there are enough people that care about civility on a coin site now that I should not need to interject myself in that area here for a while, hopefully never again. Twice was enough for me. I am enjoying the site as it is now. Lots of good coin info trading hands.

Major D

Hey Jeff, hope you had success selling your ASE collection.

Jeff Legan

Hi Major D, Nope, not even a nibble. I only ran 3 consecutive ads in a local weekly community paper. I am just not interested in selling anything online. Yes, I am a dinosaur. I guess not too many people are interested in OGP nearly complete proof ASE collections anymore (I am missing the 1995-W set and the 2017-S coin). I am guessing in maybe a hundred years an OGP collection coming up for sale will be a rare and valuable thing, but right now it seems everyone wants graded coins. I paid exactly $5657.70 for my collection (overpaid due to… Read more »

Major D

Jeff, I think there are many collectors among us who are stuck, so to speak, in not being able to sell to recoup the cost of their coins- many bought direct from the Mint and still in OGP. It sucks to think that in the end it all comes down to spot. I did drop out a while back, with the expectation of not returning until the Mint’s 2024 Annual Report comes out. But this FHS spectacle drew me back in. Speaking just for me, it’s good to leave every now and then. Otherwise, it feels too much like “Hotel… Read more »

Sam-I-am

Jeff Legan, I’m glad to know I’m not the only one here who just likes to collect certain coins. I (just this last week) completed my 50 States via the Silver Proof Sets. I had two big holes in the group; no 1999 at all (I was between jobs back then), and I made the mistake of originally buying the Clad 2000 set. Now I have both 1999 & 2000 in Silver Proof, all in OGP. Yes, I probably overpaid at Apmex, but they had them in-stock; shipped in 3 days. I can’t afford to (and don’t really care to)… Read more »

Jeff Legan

Hi Sam-I-am, Apmex is a bargain compared to Littleton. By the way, a dealer at the coin show offered me 3-4 grand (I didn’t pay much attention to what he said, I knew it was going to be around 1/2 retail value before he spoke), but Littleton offered me 5 grand. One advantage of their high selling prices is they also have higher buying prices. I contacted them to get a list of all the proof ASEs, so figured since I was already talking to them, I might as well find out what they would offer. They had a checklist,… Read more »

Sam-I-am

Jeff, I envy you that 2009 UHR. If I win the lottery, it would be the first gold coin I’d buy! Like you, gold is largely out of bounds for me. I also highly admire your Kennedy gold. I’ve seen photos, and they leave me drooling! You have excellent taste in coins, IMO! I’m not a heavy participant in the conversations, but I’ll jump in any time I think I have something to add, or a question to ask. Many times, I find the conversation goes over my head, as I’m nowhere near as experienced as some other folks here.… Read more »

Jeff Legan

Hey Major D, I have noticed a few times you calling me Jeff Logan, and did not mention it. I guess your eyes are not young anymore either, like mine. I am terrible at names so it is not a big deal but I thought I should correct it now before you get too entrenched. E not O. Pronounced league-en. Slovenian name. My grandparents from both sides came from Europe around 1912. The other set is Hungarian. I would say I am a bit of a mutt, though I have never taken one of those heritage DNA tests. You take… Read more »

Major D

Jeff Legan, I am very sorry for that! I had a friend with last name Logan and I guess I subconsciously make that mistake.

CaliSkier

Wow and interesting what just flashed back into my memory, after again reading the article over at CoinAge magazine on the new Nice Gang, Eighth Era video game, associated with the US Mints new “Star Privy” bullion 1oz American Silver Eagle. Some of or most of you, would have assuredly at some point, had at least some interest in video games back in the day? So after watching the “Eighth Era” video game trailer, I immediately flashed on a game from back in 1983/1984 called “Dragon’s Lair”! That was 40 years ago. Now fast forward and how ironic to me… Read more »

DaveSWFL

You’re never too old (or young) for CLASSIC Disney. Walt was a true American legend.

DaveSWFL

Had to rub my eyes when I took a gander at the metals spot minutes ago!!
Hi Ho, SILVER!
Egg McMuffin purchase this morning yielded a 2023 P Bessie Coleman quarter which is nicer than the ones in my uncirculated sets. Even nicer than the Denver, which is most unusual. Super crisp strike and proof like fields. Should have tried to snag the whole roll. 🙁

AKBob

DaveSWFL,

I’m rubbing my eyes too! Gotta love it! 😉

Keep Calm & Stack On

FHS – my order should arrive this evening.., with that –

Are these really showing up in a bubble wrap mailer?

A $104 coin, in a thin cardboard box, mailed in an envelope?

Are you kidding me?
And they still charged $6 for shipping.., geez, thanks USM!

I wonder if a $3,820 gold coin warrants a box? Perhaps., Bueller, Bueller?

Tony@GA

Received my FHS – In a white plastic envelope – Box creased on corner where it got in a pinch I guess but the clam shell and coin are pristine – the COA is beautiful – The coin is matte? but it seems to be flawless. No signed COA or privy – I suspect NO ONE on this blog or no one that you personally know will get a privy or a signed COA – I hope I am wrong. We will see if anybody says so – I threw a challenge out for the signed GGS as well and… Read more »

Major D

Tony@GA, I didn’t win the FHS raffle either. I’m not aware of a signed GGS as being a thing. I never heard of it. Did I miss something?

Rick

I thought that the FHS/FHG Obverse was a laughable, 30 degree, no-forehead blast from the past as I recall you saying?
No big deal just saying, as I have changed my mind on a coin/medal myself…
Yes, the GG 3 coin proof set contained/has 2 or 300 signed COAs from Miss Gibson.. .

Major D

Rick, you are absolutely right. It was the chance of winning a golden ticket to flip and make a few easy thousand $. It was a pure gamble. Bought one medal, which I value at $74 and lost on a $30 raffle. Absent the raffle, I never would have bought one. I’m glad I missed hearing about the GG 3-coin set, or I would have tried for that one, too.

Keep Calm & Stack On

Silver Spot went parabolic this week – up 9.2% over the past 5 days..,

Has anyone sold silver to JM Bullion?
Or recommend any others that are reasonable at buying silver?
Do they track for 1099-K reporting?

Want to avoid eBay, and don’t have the time to deal with dealers..,

I have more ATB pucks than I should, and that need to find a new home, when silver pops to $45.., (wishful thinking)

Thanks for any thoughts, & happy Saturday!

Major D

KC&SO, most assuredly you will get a 1099 from dealers like JM Bullion and APMEX (and others if they’re on the up-and-up). There are some good YouTube videos out there for tips on selling. Good luck!

Keep Calm & Stack On

Thank ya Sir, will check out those videos,

NcCoinCollector

So is what I am reading correct? That instead of 75K the silver medal may have a mintage of 40K?

Major D

pure speculation

CaliSkier

You are correct NoCoonCollector, you read that correctly. The 2024 Flowing Hair Silver Medal’s may indeed end up or have a final mintage of 40,000+-. Although the maximum mintage was listed at 75,000, nothing stipulates the US Mint has to or is required to produce the entire maximum mintage. The sales report coming out on Tuesday will give a better indication of what actual and potential future sales may be. The US Mint could simply be lying in wait for their 2025 Cyber Monday sale, be waiting for enough “Remind Me” sign ups/notices to strike more, waiting to see how… Read more »

NcCoinCollector

Coon is a virulently racist term – I would appreciate if the moderator removed your comment.

CaliSkier

NoCoinCollector, accept my apology for what was simply a typo. As you’re aware the O and I, are right next to each other on the keyboard. Additionally my phone is my computer, not to mention being quite early while composing. My eyes also aren’t what they used to be and so I just didn’t catch it until you mentioned. There are some here that may find this amusing, I do not. So, I’ll try and be more careful when replying to your posts. Welcome again to this blog and hopefully you were being serious and not fanning flames, opened by… Read more »

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AKBob

Cali, lol, you did another typo on his name above. NoCoinCollector instead of NcCoinCollector! Hey, I knew immediately that was a typo. You are NOT the kind of person that would talk/text/type something like that especially on this website. I absolutely accept your apology as well and I’m sure you’re quite mortified about it as I would have been had I done that. Another person that posts here texted me privately and asked me what I thot about it and I simply said it was an accident. The o and i are right next to each other. Fat Fingers strike… Read more »

CaliSkier

LOL AKBob, Ay Carramba! I really need to upgrade my old outdated phone/computer, to a new fangled modern one with a much larger screen. When I read your comment in regards to Nc vs No, I couldn’t help but LOL! Ironically, since NcCoinCollectors first post here on CoinNews I thought or my eyes had registered NoCoinCollector, which did strike me as a bit odd? As, if you’re not a coin collector, did he or she possibly get here by mistake? LOL Then I just dismissed and thought, perhaps NcCoin is a “flipper”, hoarder, speculator or investor vs collector and carried… Read more »

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E 1

Cali,

I thinks you stepped on your Dik brah.

CaliSkier

Hmm… So, here appears to be a case of buy the coin, the holder or the provenance??? A 1909 S/S S/ Horizontal S RD CAC(GRN), in an old PCGS Regency Holder, from the previous “Stewart Blay” collection. Based on the previous appearance on GC, this was one of Stewart’s duplicates? I tried diligently to track, however besides it’s previous appearance(Nov 19, 2023 Item ID 1455943 not CAC’d, yet) in a GC auction, I was unable to definitively locate. Just means it would take some serious research by someone with more knowledge or resources. PCGS places a value of $1,400-$1,550 in… Read more »

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Rick

“So, here appears to be a case of buy the coin, the holder or the provenance???” Yes x 3 it looks like! It’s definitely the same coin before CAC looked at it. Nice coin, but not for me at the moment(because I blew my money on all those “V” coins LOL!) The seller bought it last November for $4489 so he’s got some work to do by tomorrow?! Coin flipping is fairly common at the auction houses. I’ve seen a few of my coins sold in marketplace prior to my purchase, and I’ve seen a couple of my coins languishing… Read more »

CaliSkier

Rick, thanks for providing the sellers price paid last November and agree, he has some work to do regarding current bid or final hammer price in 10 hours. I know you’re on business in Orlando with other priorities and no access for a few weeks to the Kenned D, however if at all possible, it would behoove you to e-mail GC sooner, rather than later if at all possible. Again, good luck and may the odds be ever in your favor! PS Looks like others also found that 1900 O Morgan above to be under graded as well! “You and… Read more »

Tony@GA

FHS – $40.00 dollar silver coin……$64 dollar box and packaging.

She is beautiful!

Rick

And this is cause for celebration on another level also Tony! Why? You opened the sealed mint packaging bro! And I completely understand why you had to open it. My FHS is sitting in my office and won’t be opened until I get home in a month! So stay tuned(I could have my wife open it? But…)… I bought the Greatest Generation proof set and sent it in for a first strike label and instructed them to encapsulate the Ventris signed COA… Until they informed me that it was not signed, boohoo.. And to top that off two of the… Read more »

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Tony@GA

Rick – LMBO!!! You nailed it bud – I absolutely COULD NOT leave it sealed.

I never open anything but I sure did that one sir!

AKBob

Tony@GA, Rick, You guys are killing me! I never open mine either. I ALWAYS wait so I can send it in for grading because I love PCGS First Strike Labels! They are a lot more attractive plus they add value to the grade. I prefer PCGS over NGC because PCGS coins seem to garner a little more money, they are worth more than an NGC graded coin and sells faster too. There are thousands of collectors that prefer NGC or ANACS. Each to their own. Anyways, I’m having a very hard time deciding whether I will open mine or send… Read more »

Major D

How about an actual silver privy coin, this one’s a dollar proof coin from 2022 with a mintage of only 19,687. An NGC PF70 Ultra Cameo First Release just sold for $83 free shipping. Sold for less than the Mint’s original release price of $85. And this one’s a PF70.

2022 p negro leagues baseball proof silver dollar 100th privy ngc pf70 uc fr | eBay

All I can conclude is that it deals with history of a different kind, that the numismatic community largely doesn’t care for.

AKBob

Major D, I was with you till your last sentence! I don’t think that’s a fair statement/comment/opinion to put us into! Number one, I thot we weren’t supposed to talk about or insinuate politics, woke crap, etc. on this website. Secondly, you have no idea what I think nor believe and You My Friend, couldn’t be further from the truth in saying what you said directed at myself and everyone on here and everyone that collects coins. I just don’t know what to say without going on a rant about the frickin Woke, Progressive, Liberal A Holes out there but… Read more »

East Coast Guru

What commemorative has the mint produced that has done well in the secondary market? I can’t think of one either. 19687 privy’s is a lot any way you slice it. I haven’t bought a commemorative mint coin in years. It will stay that way with these lame super heroes coming out too.

Major D

East Coast Guru, just curious- as a collector what is it about the commemoratives that you don’t like? For this year’s offerings it’s mostly the price for me. If you follow commemoratives, you’ll know that there have been many that sell for more than the Mint’s original price- some much higher than others. The 2001 Buffalo and 1995/96 Olympic Unc quickly come to mind. More recently, the 2018 WWI Marine medal set, 2019 Apollo, and 2022 Purple Heart to name a few. I’m with you regarding the upcoming superheroes.

DaveSWFL

Guru,
I have fond memories of the greatly anticipated release of the Baseball Hall of Fame Commemoratives. They were very popular, sold out quickly, and hit the secondary market with very nice premiums. I ordered and flipped a ton of this issue and kept a good supply for myself as well.

East Coast Guru

Dave, Major, thank you for the reminders on some of the commemorative coins. I have the WWI Marine and the Apollo 5oz. Bought both in the secondary market. For roughly the original mint’s price. But as a long term store of value, for the most part, the commemoratives just don’t do well. I like some of the early commemoratives. I am focusing on Hawaii and a Hudson next. But as you know those were circulated so high quality coins are tough to find.

Major D

AKBob, I did say “largely” as in the numismatic community largely doesn’t care for. And “community” means all of us, not singly you or anyone else out in particular. It’s just a simple fact borne out by the marketplace, that this coin isn’t valued very much. So, why is that? There have been complaints on this forum that the FHS is just a medal, and not a coin. Here we have an actual coin with low mintage (the lowest mintage silver proof dollar in the history of modern commemoratives), and the PF70s are selling for less than the original Mint… Read more »

E 1

Major D, I sense that you feel that the coin market is discriminating against African American coins. I can assure you that it is not. Especially the mint. The truth is, most African Americans are not into rare coins. Coins are just not their cup of tea and it is their preference to choose freely as they do. I have one African American friend that says “Nay on coins, I’m into ball cards and jerseys. “He prefers the rookie cards of Jackie Robinson, Willie Mays, Reggie Jackson, Michael Jordan, and Wilt Chamberlin. These are multi-million-dollar cards. Yet, Mickey Mantle, Joe… Read more »

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Sam-I-am

E 1,

Thanks for a calm, reasoned response regarding Black folks and coins aimed at African-Americans. Most Black folks I know who are into PM’s seem more interested in stacking bars or other formats, rather than coins. Not good, not bad; just is. As Kaiser W. and AKBob often put it, “to each his (or her) own”. I was heartened at my last trip to the LCS, seeing several women in the store, buying (or at least looking at) coins. But yes, most of the coin-buying types are 40+ y/o white guys.

Rick

Ditto

Major D

Sam-I-Am and E 1, I appreciate your thoughtful responses. Yes indeed, “to each his (or her) own”.

Major D

E 1, you miss the point I was making. There shouldn’t be black coins anymore than there should be white coins. Just coins. But, borne out by numbers sold, the so-called “African American” coins are the lowest selling. They are not minted just for black people. However, the numismatic community is largely white and it largely does not buy them. Now, this is not an argument for or against any discrimination. It is merely stating a truth.

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E 1

Major D, Maybe the mint made a huge marketing mistake by creating collector coins that celebrate and commemorate African Americans. But, I don’t think so. Maybe we need a private promoter to shed some light on these overlooked rarities. Someone that can turn that pain into prosperity. Someone who can truly take it to heart and run with it. For example, Rick Tomoskas and his book on “Proof Cameo Franklin Half Dollars.” Bill Fivaz’s “Cherry Pickers Guide.” Jeff Garret’s book “100 Greatest Modern US Coins.” Every one of these authors shared one thing in common – they wanted to shed… Read more »

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Rich

E 1, one of my favorite Modern Commemoratives is the 1997-W $5 Jackie Robinson Uncirculated Gold Coin, partly because of it’s relatively low mintage at the time. The authorized mintage limit was 100,000 for the $5 Gold coins. The Proof $5 Gold final mintage = 24,072 and the Uncirculated $5 Gold final mintage = 5,174. Supposedly, due to the relatively disappointing sales results, an attempt was made to extend the sales offering period, but the proposal was rejected. The coins had been available for sale by the Mint from August 16, 1997 to August 16, 1998.

E 1

Rich,

Someone should write a book to hi-lite some of those rarities. It is disappointing that his card gets more love than his coin. But, the card is an actual artifact of antiquity and the coin is a commemoration after the fact. That may have something to do with it. Also, Olympic commemorative coins have never done well in the past either. So, buyers are fickle. When I come up with something that everyone on the planet wants, I will let you know.

Cheers

Major D

E 1, you are right about those 1995/96 Centennial Olympic coins not doing well- I think because there were so many of them (2,488,127 total coins). There were so many combinations of sets that it was complicated to know what was up. The Mint used to provide a link in its Historical Coin Sales Figures to a spreadsheet (236 lines x 42 columns) which tallied it all. Unfortunately, I see that the spreadsheet is no longer available but I’m glad to have downloaded it when it was.

Major D

E 1, again thanks for a thoughtful response. I don’t besmirch anyone for choosing not to buy any one coin or another. Some years ago, when my daughter was young and played with Barbies, she had white Barbies. Yet there were black Barbies available that we did not buy. So, I understand that people choose based on what reflects their identity and culture. But if I were a collector of Barbies, those early black ones are scarcer in the market and more valuable as a result- which would make me want to acquire. I guess what throws me off is… Read more »

E 1

Major D, Yes, just another fascinating dimension of marketing as it relates to the psychology and sociology of collecting. As for the book idea. It could be a tremendous opportunity for fame, notoriety, and wealth. There are a number of well-known numismatic writers on this blog and you have access to a number of publishers through CDN. I never put my copyright stamp on anything related to this subject. So, it’s all yours. You write well and you are good with numbers. If you are good with photography, then you may want to run with it. Every book starts with… Read more »

East Coast Guru

Just received my FH silver medal. In a bag. No cardboard protective box. Of all the silver medals that the mint has made, this is one of them. It’s a shoulder shrug medal. Glad I bought one as an original replica but this will not have any legs just like all the other medals the mint produces. The privy may have some legs, but I wouldn’t go out of my way to buy it. Whoever bought a 70 privy out there for $5k+ early release good luck getting a return on your purchase. Perhaps if it was a business strike… Read more »

NcCoinCollector

Good luck getting Congress to pass a bill for a coin that doesn’t have “E Pluribus Unum” & “In God we Trust” on it. Recall the uproar over the original Sacagewa dollar. Consider the existing laws that would have to be changed to allow a faithful minting of the original Flowing Hair dollar. Consider it’s a fraction of the mintage of current Morgan and Peace dollars. Consider that the inverse and reverse are not nearly as busy as current offerings (initials, mottos etc.) If you don’t like it, you don’t like it but don’t disparage the mint.

East Coast Guru

Who said anything about removing In God We Trust or E Pluribus Unum. I was talking about a business strike or finish on the medal. I like the fact that there are no mint marks or initials. Said that long ago. This medal in its current form is to sterile for me. However, if you think I was disparaging the mint, you ain’t seen nothing yet. But I will hold back as this is a family type blog.

Kaiser Wilhelm

NcCoinCollector,

The way it seems, those silver counterparts to gold coins will always be medals.

Major D

One of my favorite Chuck Berry songs:

“C’est la vie” say the old folks
It goes to show you never can tell

I got my FHS today as well in a bubble-wrap. I’m 0 for 1 and done.



Kaiser Wilhelm

Major D,

Survey says, a lot of people here are 0 and 1 and done. Seems to be a pattern.

Kaiser Wilhelm

East Coast Guru,

“Of all the silver medals that the mint has made, this is one of them.”

That gets the Kaiser Prize for one of the most clever comments ever on here!

Sam-I-am

All,

Looking at metal values lately, what I find almost frightening is the melt value of the modern 1 cent 97.5% Zinc coin. Inflation has made this over 8/10ths of a cent in metal value alone. Forget the cost the Mint incurs to manufacture all the dang things (over 3 cents each). What’s next, plastic pennies?

Kaiser Wilhelm

Sam-I-Am,

Plastic pennies…the ultimate pollutant. Everyone would throw them away.

Kaiser Wilhelm

If Precious Metal Values sustain this rate of climb upcoming Gold and Silver coins from the Mint (or anywhere else) will likely be priced up there with Unobtainium!

Keep Calm & Stack On

FHS Lotto Ticket – 0 for 1 and done,

Still can’t believe it arrived in a bubble mailer, geez…

Kaiser Wilhelm

Keep Calm & Stack On,

As with the Lottery, there aren’t all that many big winners. It’s the nature of the beast.

CaliSkier

Major D said, in response to Tony@GA’s comment: “I’m not aware of a signed GGS as being a thing. I never heard of it. Did I miss something?” The Greatest Generation Sets were seeded with the signature of VCG. “The Honorable Ventris C. Gibson, Director of the Mint, signed 250 Certificates of Authenticity (COAs) for the 2024 Greatest Generation Three-Coin Proof Set (24CG). These personally signed COAs will be randomly inserted into unmarked sets and will be fulfilled when shipping begins.” (2/22/24 USM Press Release)

CaliSkier

Well Rick, it appears that unless there is some last second bidding, the seller of that “1909 S/S S/ Horizontal S RD CAC(GRN), in an old PCGS Regency Holder, from the previous “Stewart Blay” collection” is poised to take a small loss this evening? Still at $4,200/$4,725 w/buyers fee. 20 minutes to go.

CaliSkier

Bidder 20 jumped in last second and sniped it at $5,750/$6,468.75 w/buyers fee! Wow! Had been at $4,800
prior to that. Bet that seller is pretty happy about that flip.

Kaiser Wilhelm

CaliSkier,

The seller is happy as are the auctioneer and the buyer. On the other hand, all those who have been restricted to watching these lofty transactions from the sidelines aren’t all that thrilled. C’est la vie.

CaliSkier

Now here’s a pricey one! “1911-D Indian Gold Quarter Eagle Strong D PCGS MS-65 (CAC Green)”. Pretty awesome specimen with 3 hr left and currently at $74,500/81,950 w/buyers fees. 39 bids amongst 11 bidders.

https://www.greatcollections.com/Coin/1679504/1911-D-Indian-Gold-Quarter-Eagle-Strong-D-PCGS-MS-65-CAC-Green

Kaiser Wilhelm

CaliSkier,

For some people that cash represents a coin, for others a good year’s income. 😉

A.Johnson

Got my Flowing Hair medal/coin today. No privy. Boo!

But, it’s a nice looking medal/coin and I’ll likely keep it.

Kaiser Wilhelm

A. Johnson,

At least you are pleased with the Medal; that’s something.