The United States Mint marks a milestone today at noon ET, releasing the 230th Anniversary Flowing Hair High Relief Gold Coin — a tribute to America’s first dollar coin.
Struck from 99.99% gold at the U.S. Mint’s West Point facility, the 1.000 troy ounce proof coin features designs in high relief, significantly enhancing their level of detail.
The original dollar we know today as the Flowing Hair silver dollar was first issued on October 15, 1794, under the guidance of Mint Director David Rittenhouse. The coin’s design was created by Mint Chief Engraver Robert Scot.
In October, the U.S. Mint issued the 230th Anniversary Flowing Hair Silver Medal as an additional nod to the legacy of America’s first dollar coin. The medal remained available for just over 24 hours before going off sale. Secondary market demand has been strong, particularly for the 1,794 medals featuring a "230" privy mark and the 230 that includes both the privy mark and a certificate of authenticity hand-signed by the Honorable Ventris C. Gibson, Director of the United States Mint.
None of today’s offered gold coins, limited to 17,500, will feature a privy mark, although the Mint has indicated it will later auction 230 examples bearing one.
Flowing Hair High Relief Gold Coin Designs and Specifications
Modern yet faithful renditions of Robert Scot’s designs appear on both the obverse (heads) and reverse (tails) sides of the 24K gold coin. After a brief introduction, the following U.S. Mint video provides more detail on the reproduction of these designs.
Re-sculpted by Mint Medallic Artist John P. McGraw, the obverse features a portrait of Liberty facing right, surrounded by 15 stars representing the states that had ratified the Constitution by 1794. "LIBERTY" is inscribed on the obverse as it was on the original, joined by "2024" to mark this year’s date.
Re-sculpted by Mint Medallic Artist Eric David Custer, the reverse design shows a laurel wreath encircling an eagle with spread wings at the center, accompanied by the inscription "UNITED STATES OF AMERICA."
The coin’s denomination is incused on the edge as "HUNDRED CENTS ONE DOLLAR OR UNIT."
The U.S. Mint has provided the following specifications for the coin:
2024 Flowing Hair Gold Coin Specifications
| Denomination: | $1 |
|---|---|
| Finish: | Proof |
| Composition: | 99.99% gold |
| Weight: | 1.000 troy ounce |
| Diameter: | 1.205 inches (30.61 mm) |
| Edge: | Lettered |
| Mint and Mint Mark: | West Point – None |
| Privy Mark: | None |
Ordering and Price
The 230th Anniversary Flowing Hair High Relief Gold Coin can be ordered directly from the U.S. Mint starting at noon ET for $3,640 by visiting the Mint’s website page dedicated to gold coins. An initial household order limit of one applies.
Each coin is encapsulated and presented in a black clamshell case adorned with the United States Mint seal, housed within an outer sleeve featuring a gold-embossed image of the Flowing Hair dollar. A certificate of authenticity is also included.
All I can say is I think everyone will get there’s. It will most likely Sell Out tomorrow once the HHL is lifted as Rich stated above. I hope it Sells Out, at least no later than tomorrow. I will purchase one today and I’ll have four (4). I’m not worried about these not having Legs as I really love this coin! If it does great if not, it will eventually. If it Sells Out by today or tomorrow, it will have Legs at least initially. It’s going to be interesting for sure. Let the Games begin! 😉 Well, As… Read more »
Bob it was a scam apparently…..
My experience was thus: Logged into website about 8:57 a “cloud flare” page appeared and provided a 2 min “waiting room”. It them bounced to 3 min and about 5 seconds let me “in”. I logged into my account, went to “gold” -> “250 Ann Flowing Hair” -> it was not for sale yet. I clicked on silver coins header and immediately back to Gold, Flowing Hair as above placed in bag and checked out. Had to be careful to click two boxes after entering payment options. The entire visit was less than a minute, even with our very slow… Read more »
230 anniversary. I do typos well with my numb crippled up hands.
Sold out in less than five minutes. No HHL for this one. Remember there’s an international market as well as a domestic one. Maybe AKBob can get one at the auction. Otherwise, one only this time.
Nice article and video on the FHG. However, no link to the mint’s sales page.
https://www.usmint.gov/230th-anniversary-flowing-hair-gold-coin-24YG.html
It is 8:20 AM Pacific Time Thursday morning 11/14/2024.
40 minutes and counting till lift off.
Let the festivities begin.
Keep us posted.
Cheers
Here’s a great coin video to watch afterwards.
Pass on to Beenie Nabies
E 1 Nice video! Amazing coins. Thanks for sharing.
E 1,
Thanks for sharing that. It was still a fun watch even though it’s common knowledge that Rick rehearses his “informative coin talks” before taping begins.
Well, the mints website seems to be working fine. Either they fixed the website bugs, or the demand is lacking. Or a combination of both.
boom, done
sold out in less than 5 minutes
Ok, heck they can keep it then. Crappy website. I was trying to order from the usual place as in the past. I guess you need to order from the outside of the coin details page. Strongly agree with John Q., this website sux.
Yes, now for the auction next month. This one will be one of the HOT items. One for the books?
That is going to be a blast to watch. I say watch because if these sold out this quickly then what will those coins sell for…I won’t be surprised if all of them take six figures to buy. I hope I’m wrong again. Is there a correlation between Donald and the sudden obsession for gold? If I could make a suggestion to the mint, it would be to continue pressing some of the classic designs in PM coins each year. It seems to be a viable way to move PM’s.
Craig,
Goes to show once again that whether in good times or bad times it makes no difference; somebody always has plenty of money to spare.
Kaiser,
I neither wanted or needed this coin, but if anyone does, I think most are on the eBay website. Makes you wonder if the mint didn’t already allocate most to the flippers of our new world. Of course you’ll have to pony up an additional 1k or so to get it. As they say, the business of America is business.
I still have two 1964 Kennedy Halves and a 1929 quarter saved from when I was a youth. I cherish being able to see this coin show up.
I think it sold out.
12:04 and it is at ‘Remind Me’ status
Rooster,
Until it isn’t, but if that happens the Big Guys will, as always, be the first to know.
Kaiser I agree as they have their family, friends, and employees all in the game.
Relatively light “high traffic” on Mint website. At 11:55am ET virtual waiting room time was only 3 minute wait to enter site. Seamless functioning for ordering, in and out in 2 minutes.
Good for u.
FUCK THE US MINT
Sorry Whitman. Deserved
glad i got my 91cc $20
John Q. Coinage,
If I were you I might expect to be off Ventris’ Christmas card list this year. Oh well.
I don’t need a hunk o coal
Congratulations!
Was in waiting room before at 11:50, and then got knocked back to remind me page BEFORE noon. Says don’t refresh, but finally did at 4 minutes after and was sold out. Was just a lark, anyway, so not going to lose sleep over it, but website stinks….
You just made a “mint”! 😀
I had a 3 minute wait in the waiting room but was let in early it seems but I had to refresh the page to get the add to cart button which it worked. I got mine in less than 1min. Got confirmation email at 10:01 MST. I checked on another phone and was unavailable at 10:04 MST
Congratulations! You just doubled your investment (per eBay). You just made a “mint”. 😀
Nobody is getting shit. Gone 9:02. Bs
i knew it and I said it…
FUCK THE MINT
Kind of like Ticketmaster
The same thing happened with the 1/10oz gold coins of type 1 and type 2 back in 2021. Sold out in a couple of minutes. However, the good news is that these are easily acquired at coin shows if you really want one. My powder is still dry, off looking for a spectacular $10 gold Indian.
Less than 1 minute in, in my bag, accept terms, click, and then gone.
Bye bye purchase price for this one…
So yeah or neah Rick? Same here I bag entered card clicked no go…wtf
unavailable….. bye bye mint
Is anyone surprised.
sell $63,000,000 in 2 min…INVESTIGATION
BS and cook # onFH medal Investigation
knucklehead mint directress..priceless
No deal for me, they told me to remove it from my bag because they were all gone at 12: 04
Same here….it’s still there. I do not follow their ORDERS
Nothi g else to get there anymore…
I thought you wrote you got one. Chinese government at work here? Bought ’em all out to resell at a profit?
I had it in my bag and upon checkout at 12.05 PM, product wass unavailable.
Sucks!
Did they sell all 17500 in just 5 minutes? I for one am surprised.
Craig,
I’d like to see Pawn Star Rick and Magic Mike Mezack go mano a mano for one of these.
Kaiser,
How much money do you think Magic Mike will be selling these for on HSN, with his ‘rare’ and ‘special’ label, of course. I’ll bet he starts off his presentation with ‘I know this isn’t for everyone, but….’.
His is already graded PF70. How’d he do that so fast? Something’s up? :-O
I don’t know Antonio, but I’ll lean towards your ‘something’s up’ speculation. I wish we had transparency in the mint as it would be nice to know if they sold all of them or only those they had pressed. I don’t have FOMO disease, so I’m just amused by all the emotion being displayed over an item from the mint. I wanted to get on the site to see if I could order one but got caught up watching E 1’s Pawn Stars clip on those unique coins and when I looked at the time it was 12:10.I wasn’t going… Read more »
Thanks Craig. I didn’t even try. Out of my league, cost wise. I was saddened to read about the experience of some here who tried to buy this one. The big boys get in, the rest of us stand outside to watch. They’ve already almost doubled in price on eBay, if they’re not still waiting for a higher bid. I enjoy looking at nice coins, not necessarily owning them.
No, in just 4 minutes. People had it in their bag and poof, gone!
Why would anyone care anymore. I had fired the Mint, I was I Focus groups. I said to do this
I was standing on the 24YG product page. I thought I cleared the waiting room, but close to 11:59:40 I hit refresh and ended up with a 3 minute waiting room which increased to 5 minutes. I opened a second browser I had a 3 minute waiting room, but it went CU before I could compete the transaction at about 12:04 EST. I wasn’t really thrilled about paying $3,640.
We’re you able to get one? Others were filling out CC information when they were kicked off by Sold Out. 🙁
Time for a walkabout. A very long walkabout.
Later
What just happened? It seems as though there were a whole variety of experiences regarding the successful and/or failed purchases of the 2024 FHG. I imagine once the dust settles a bit around this release it will be easier to make sense of it all.
F the Mint! Done with this crap for good!
Beat this story – this is HOW F’ed up the Mint’s website is…
Exactly at 12:30.., entered my CC security code (it was accurate) – “Can’t process your….”
Entered CC code – “The household limit has been reach…:
Re-entered CC code – “The household limit has been reach…:
12:02 or 12:03 – “Currently Unavailable”
Unbelievable!
Any one else have a mint website F’ed up experience ?
Mine wasn’t a good experience either. Booted from the the waiting room at 11:50 and ended up with a reminder button. I wasn’t all that crazy about it anyway so maybe for the best. And to think some people think Bitcoin will always run smoothly.
@ECG, I think for $3,640 I could pick up the 1935 Spanish Trail Half, An Athena owl tetradrachm and a 1929 Hawaii Territorial National Bank Note (all depending on grade. These are all my bucket list items. I guess it is time to move on.
I got a good price on a white PCGS MS66 Spanish Trail a few years back. It was on my list for years. I figure the $3,640 I saved by getting booted from the waiting room this morning will be applied to my next wish list, a 1928 Hawaiian….MS66. I’ll just need one more booting from the mint and I’m there!
There’s always the 2024 W proof Buffalo gold. It’s at the lowest mintage since it was first offered in 2006. Just a thought.
So much for a high mintage. Sold out in less than five minutes, as I figured it would. Also a lower price than was figured would be offered, here, at $3,640. Only for people who have the moolah. I’m happy I settled for the silver medal. I believe it’ll also drive up the value of the FH silver medal. Time will tell, of course.
Well, I for one will never pay more than issue price for any meant product on the secondary market. Everyone needs to do the same thing. It’s the fools paining a crazy price that wind up fucking us all over.
please boycott is you can send MEZAK jars of French’s
Got lucky was able to purchase one.
You are one of the select few.
I had a flawless experience. I wasn’t rushing…a few seconds after 12pm I refreshed my computer, saw the ‘Add to Bag’ button and hit it. Went to check out, read the info, saw that they are charging more for shipping, but I got a 3$ discount, which was the only difference I noticed since my last purchase here. Provided all my cc info and purchased. Easy Peasy.
Sorry for the folks who had problems.
look carefully the shipping discount is $3.95/- not $3/-
Yes! You just made a “mint”! These will go for at least twice what you paid when you decide to sell it, eventually. High five for you! 😀
Antonio,
As we excitable soccer (fussball) aficionados are given to saying, “Score!”
Same I thought I saw $9.95 shipping even though I should be getting free budget shipping but honestly I was just happy to have it in my cart I entered my credit card information 30 minutes early selected the card entered CCV code checked the box and was done at 10am!! I got email at 10:01! Was worried when I got in at 9:57 because I knew I would have to refresh to get the button to show “add to bag”but I didn’t lose my place!
AdamL,
Now I get to be confused again because I had been given to believe that hitting “Refresh” would completely screw up the works but apparently that is not the case. So by the way, Antonio, forget what I said aka posted earlier. Sheesh.
It’s no problem. I wasn’t in the market for this one. I am wondering, if the Morgan and Peace dollars are sold as coins, why wasn’t the FH silver? What made it finally be issued as a medal rather than as a silver dollar? Curious.
I was able to get in easily about 2 min to kickoff, looked around, at top of hour went to page, bag, and check out with no problems I had in the past. Funny thing, I received confirmation email 26 min after kickoff, and the standard text alerting to availability at 31 min after kickoff. p.s. if the site owner like I can send a pic of confirmation. I don’t know why my posts are not being approved here. I used to frequent the old blog where some of your members here (inc J-Q) migrated. I suppose I can read… Read more »
smalltimecollector,
Looks like you’re in like Flint now. Congratulations and welcome to the site!
Imagine they promote a coin for virtually a year. They taught it like it’s the second coming of Jesus. They promote it they want you to buy it. They want you to pay a lot of money for it. You wait you see the hype she’s a mentor actress. Oh, she’s out there really tap dancing a song baby, is she even qualified? Does she have a background for this? Where is all this shit going that selling out in a blink of an eye? Anyway so you finally go and decide to pull the trigger you’re at the website… Read more »
Already on eBay. Graded PF70. Highest being offered for $7,500. Two pages already available. Me 😀
Fool me no time. I knew this was going to happen. Silly wabbit. These items are for rich dealers and seasoned flippers. I’m just a humble collector making my way through the numismatic galaxy.
Antonio, it has happened before and will happen again. Funny 100s…1000s already on the Bay.
i no longer care about 99% of mint trinkets.
because, buying coins from US mean it’s like taking your car to a dealer for repairs. You’re gonna get raped.
Well…….my order was confirmed…..In the past all of the problems encountered by other commenters has caused me to miss releases. Not this time. I started using Paypal to avoid the cc code that snagged me at checkout for several releases in the past…..I have to think there was other ways for high volume retailers to purchase, given all for sale on ebay now….
Saw one on eBay asking $8,999. Prices are only sure to rise. Nice purchase. 😀
Harry B, Congratulations! I’m very, very Happy for You! 😉
I’ll just go away with a smile
I’m done. The collection stops here. One minute wait at 11:45 sign in. Then I’m in. At noon, I refresh to get “Add to Bag” which I’ve done on every other order. I’m back in the waiting room. 1 minute … 3 minutes … 4 minutes … 5 minutes … 7 minutes … 5 minutes … 4 minutes … 3 minutes … 2 minutes … 1 minute … I’m in and everything’s gone. Of course, Ebay is lit up with confirmed coins with 1k to 4k premiums. You’d think the thousands of dollars I send the Mint yearly would mean… Read more »
Reb the waiting room seemed to have odd movements of the wait time. The Mint could care little about one collector the new base, Mezakians and authorizeds o wise your OUT. YOU THINK THE YANKEES MADE BAD ERRORS, hey got Butkus o the Mint
I’ve canceled all of my subscriptions and unsubscribed from the Mint’s email. I’m out. If this “business” doesn’t want my money, I will be glad not to give it to them. It was a nice run (1960-2024) but I’m getting too old to deal with this shit. Today wasn’t the first time I’ve been screwed on their website but it will be the last. I’m kind of glad for it to be over. I wasn’t looking forward to the privy circus. I’m both happy to be out and sad to see the collection end.
64 years! That’s great! What a story your collection tells. We’re only custodians for now. The time will come when either we part from them or we part with them for someone else to have. I certainly wasn’t around when my first/oldest coin, an 1836 large cent, was minted. The time will come when someone else will be its custodian and it continues its journey through time.
REB,
I wish I could have warned you about that in time. Apparently once you’re in the Waiting Room hitting “Refresh” puts you back at the end of the line. Everything keeps changing at the Mint so it’s more luck than strategy that gets you through now.
I was out of the waiting room. I was on the site. To get rid of the “Remind Me” and get the “Add to Bag” button, I’ve always had to refresh. I did at noon and this time got sent to the waiting room.
Damn REB, I was hoping you at least had success getting this coin. I wonder what % of buyers are just flippers. If you look at eBay, I’d say it is a large %. Sorry for your experience with the mint!
Thanks. The Mint has made this hobby a chore. I’ve always said they should mint to demand. I thought the L&B was a move in the right direction. But, they’ve moved back to their old annoying habits … this time on steroids.
Yeah.., USM should have had an ordering window like on L&B for this release, I personally think it helps keep the flippers out,
Make no mistake about it.., collectors were railroaded by the flippers today…. Amazing amount of OPG on eBay now,
After I was told twice that I exceed the HHL, without an order confirmation, I was sent back the waiting room, and had the same experience of the timing on a roller coast….
Even better, on the website, it tells me the item is CU and remove from my bag, and I exceeded the HHL…. What a circus.
At least for now, so much for gold surpassing the $3000 level. Ce’st la vie.
Well Shit! I didn’t get one! I’m pretty miffed. I added it to the Bag, went to pay, entered my CVC, Purchased it and Nothing! I couldn’t tell if I got it or not. Looks like NOT as no Confirmation from the Mint. So happy I already purchased 3 others on Pre Sales from EBay. One in OGP, which that Seller got it ordered with Mint Confirmation, plus I got 2 in PR70, one First Strike and one First Day of Issue, both Flag Labels. I’m happy in one way but very pissed in another way! Yes, Ebay is loaded… Read more »
Does anybody know how many coins were available for regular customers to buy? In other words how many were already earmarked for the big dealers?
ECG, Good dang question that I’d be very, very interested in too! Sorry you couldn’t get one either! Very sad State of Affairs in regards to the US Mint! I hate to say it but I’ve been promoting, pumping up this coin, saying this “could” sell out first day but most didn’t think so with 17,500 mintage. I’m surprised but I’m NOT, if that makes cents! If you really want one, I’d buy one now off eBay NOW as the prices are going to go up, up and away, I’m thinking. We’ll see but I can’t imagine this coin NOT… Read more »
ECG – of the FHS, 17.9%, or 8,926 of the 49,966 sold, were sold to the Bulk Dealers…. So if 18% of 17,250 were sold to the dealers, say 3,105 – though doesn’t that seem low to you? Seems low to me…. USM had them at Baltimore today, so say they took a 1,000 to sell, and then what, 500 each at the 3 stores, total guesstimate on my part, 17,250 – 3,105 – 2,500 = 11,645 So perhaps they had 11,645 available for the website.., that went in under 4 minutes, with half of the lot going to a… Read more »
I predicted this as soon as the “new” website appeared….. easily foreseeable.
the more things change the more they stay the same
The bright side is you will have three. At a premium but some nonetheless. Most others won’t have even one and don’t have the money to buy the ones offered on eBay or elsewhere. Has anyone considered the proof W Buffalo gold? It’s at its lowest mintage since it’s been issued. Also, much fewer than the Flowing Hair Gold Dollar.
I was expecting heavy traffic and did not get myself too excited to get my hands on one of these coins. I was logged into the website and at noon immediately got to the purchase page. The check out was without problem and I used my PayPal option. Confirmation that the order is in process. I have experienced the really bad times when the website was essentially offline when the traffic was so heavy. So I do give them credit for improving the process for high demand products. This is the first of the year with such high demand, the… Read more »
What do you know? Look at those prices for the FH silver medal. Jumped $100 to $200 dollars! Is it a gimmick or market forces?
Went to log in this morning about 20 minutes before, website told my my password was wrong, tried changing it about five times and each time got the same error with the new passwords. Thanks a lot, US Mint.
Doh! And gone… I’m sure most are a bit surprised about how quick these coins sold out? I know I am. Now, time for some “Fun With Numbers”! I’m speculating that the US Mint sold somewhere between roughly 1,600-3,100 coins to the ABPP homies. This is 15%-18% versus the 10% the Mint stipulates that they selll to the ABPP homies. Additionally, although the US Mint also stipulates that when they provide for a program that’s involved with the ABPP to be governed by those same ABPP rules, to not use any other means to procure additional inventory or suffer loss… Read more »