A magnificent example of the rarer B-1 variety of a 1796 quarter will be among the top attractions at Heritage’s April 3-6 US Coins Signature® Auction.
The offered 1796 Quarter Dollar, MS61 PCGS comes from the Frost Collection and is among the rarest of its kind.
"The B-1 is the rarer variety, especially for those examples graded in Mint State, with about one-third as many examples as there are of the B-2," says Todd Imhof, Executive Vice President at Heritage Auctions. "This example is extraordinary, tied at the low end of the Rea-Polizio-Moulton Census, behind only four MS63 examples and one MS66 coin."
From a low original mintage, perhaps as many as 100 Mint State 1796 quarters remain in existence, but considering the many factors that make this issue eminently collectible, there are not nearly enough Uncirculated examples to satisfy demand, making examples like the one offered in this auction exceedingly appealing to serious collectors.
The Frost Collection is an elite assemblage of high-grade early silver and copper type coins, with numerous offerings that are aggressively sought by collectors. Of the 64 lots from the collection in the auction, 23 appear in Thursday’s Premier Session. Other highlights from the collection include, but are not limited to Proof Indian Cents — one PR66 PCGS from 1862 and a PR68 PCGS Red and Brown from 1885 – as well as nearly a dozen Standing Liberty Quarters, including a beautiful 1916 Standing Liberty Quarter, MS66 PCGS and a 1919 Quarter, MS67 Full Head PCGS.
An 18th-century rarity, a coin that can act like an irresistible magnet to the most serious of early dollar specialists and advance type collectors, is available in the form of a 1795 Flowing Hair, Three Leaves, B-5, BB-27 Dollar, AU58 PCGS. CAC that is a borderline Mint State coin. Any Flowing Hair dollar that even approaches Uncirculated condition is going to generate considerable demand, making this example an absolute must-have for any serious early dollar specialist’s collection.
An 1895 Morgan Dollar, PR64 PCGS is a coveted prize that is known today only in proof format. Mint documents reflect the coinage in June 1895 of 12,000 standard silver dollars, but no such circulation strikes are known today. If circulation strikes were produced, the most likely answer is that they were melted in the silver dollar destruction brought about by the Pittman Act of 1918, leaving only a limited number of proof coins known today.
Despite a hefty mintage of more than 1.7 million coins, the 1929 double eagle is the first of several scarce issues that marked the end of the Saint-Gaudens series that began in 1907 and concluded in 1933. PCGS CoinFacts estimates that nearly 1,000 of the 1929 double eagles remain, but Heritage experts believe even that estimate is generous, and that the actual survival rate is somewhere between just 350 and 400 – including an MS65 PCGS example that is featured in this auction.
Also in play is the only example PCGS has seen of the ultra-rare LM-3 variety of a 1795 Half Dime, MS63 PCGS. CAC. Traditionally, the Eliasberg LM-3 example, described as MS63 in 1996, was long thought to be the finest for the variety, yet that coin is weakly struck at the lower-left stars and hair strands. This CAC-endorsed example is far sharper in those areas and is notably well-struck on the eagle’s head, neck, breast and legs.
A 1915 Indian Eagle, PR66 NGC is one of just 75 proof examples struck in 1915 by the Philadelphia Mint after commercial proof offerings for gold and silver coins were discontinued after 1915 (and stopped entirely after 1916).
David Akers has suggested that some coins might have gone unsold and were subsequently melted, making the 1915 proof Indian eagle even more elusive than its minuscule production might suggest. John Dannreuther estimated a surviving population of just 40-45, while NGC and PCGS have combined to certify just 38, including an unknown number of resubmissions and crossovers. The remaining population that is available to the collecting community is even smaller than the estimated numbers, because two of the coins are included in the National Numismatic Collection at the Smithsonian Institution.
Another important eagle in the auction is a 1912 Indian Eagle PR66 NGC. Mint records indicate the Philadelphia Mint struck 144 proof Indian eagles that year, but the artistic sandblast finish used on proof coins at the time was not appreciated by collectors, precipitating a sharp decline in orders for proof sets. Just 83 proof Indian eagles were sold in 1912, with the remainder melted for recoinage. The offered example is one of what Dannreuther estimated to be just 60-70 remaining examples, one of just nine carrying a grade of 66 (with only five graded higher).
Instructions from treasury officials to the Philadelphia Mint to concentrate on production of half eagles and eagles during the 1880s led to low production totals, including 2,199 circulation strike double eagles in 1881. PCGS Coinfacts estimates 67 survivors, while the estimate recorded on its population report is 40-60 — one of which, a beautiful 1881 Double Eagle, AU53 PCGS, is among the attractions in this auction.
Other top lots in the auction include, but are not limited to:
- An 1851 Humbert Reeded Edge Fifty Dollar, XF40 PCGS
1851 Humbert Fifty Dollar, XF40 PCGS - A 1916-D Mercury Dime MS64 Full Bands PCGS
1916-D Mercury Dime, MS64 Full Bands PCGS - An 1881-S Silver Dollar, MS69 NGC
1881-S Silver Dollar, MS69
Images and information about all lots in the auction can be found at HA.com/1382.
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That’s the way I look at it. Just wait it out. Prices will raise again. Remember, buy low, sell high. We’ll see what Friday and Monday bring us.
VFW sent another donation envelope and it has 4 nickels so, of course, I opened it
4 uncirculated 2025 D – 2 are absolutely flawless under a scope. At least they can get new coins! Wish they were 2024!!!!
I’ll send in my donation…..
Any relation to “Robert Frost.”
“Nature’s first green is gold.”
Nice 1916-D Mercury Dime. Next to impossible in gem.
Cheers
Those two Indian Eagles look mighty pretty, too.
REB, Yes, oh so rare in matte proof too.
Also, Rick, an 1881-S Morgan in a “9.”
I think Mr. Frost had great taste in numismatics.
Stunning.
Some fancy coins right there guys.
Rick, JMHO, but this is Stunning! My favorite bird in Red, White, and Blue!
You might like this one better. Priceless.
Rick,
Sheryl Crow JSA Certified in the Freekin Box Braahh!
“If It Makes You Happy, It Can’t Be That Bad!”
Cheers
✓ !
Very good, both performances. I’m leaning towards Sheryl with the Stones. She looks to be in her Prime too. I was just a kid, but me and a couple of friends went to every Stadium concert named “Sunday Number 1”, “Number 2” and so on in the Denver/Boulder area 1978-80. The Stones headlined one of them, great times!
Those coins are definitely all very cool and would be awesome to have in any numis’ collection, accumulation, or hoard IMO. Although, quite rough, I really like that 1851 Humbert $50. Something about the $50 Octagonal coins try e US Mint issued. I’ve always been quite fond of the 1915 Pan Pacific $50 as well.
Yes, I remember first seeing that 1915 Octagonal at The Granite Lady under glass. Alluring and mind-blowing. Stack’s Bowers had two on sale Tuesday. An MS-64 went for $90,000 and MS-62 went for $72,000.
Decent prices, wish I sold stock and bought one, losing mega moola there last 2 days. Silver crushed gold weeping….
Agree, the mid 1800’s brought in a bunch of interesting Territorial/Pioneer Gold. The Gold Rush era out west was really something.
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VinnieC said: “I’m confused by all the label and holder variation….black label, black core, first 50k….is the first 50k the first 50k coins or just the first 50k the NGC slabs.” “In collaboration with the United States Mint, the coins available to EIGHTH ERA players will be among the first 50,000 released.” VinnyC I can completely understand the confusion, when trying to assess, exactly what is it we’re looking at. Based on how the previous Coin News article reads these 50,000 coins are “among” the 1st 50,000 released. With that being said the 8th ERA 1 of the First 50,000… Read more »
There was discussion of buying and flipping of the 2024 star privy slabs on CN last yare and I was confused by that too. Certain labels seem to move better.
Damn! Pinehurst has a presale on those 2025 (P) ASE Eagle Privy 8 ERA MS70, 1 for First 50,000 NGC coins for $435/$449 vs last nights $299 from Bullion Shark: Who’s the Shark? LOL Not much, if any meat left on the bones at that price?
No thanks bye bye. They must’ve caught on to what happened with the star privy last year when that iron got hot? I’d be more inclined to pick up a 1/10th PF AGE from the Mint at that price than one of those. Better yet, go to a LCS for a ‘used’ one for a fair price. Gee, now I sound like one of the reasonable, smart buyers around here!
Gold:Silver ratio currently 99:1
Gold:Silver ratio currently 100:1
How strong is gold? Gold : Silver over 100 yet silver is not yet oversold!!!
And gold is not overbought.
Everything is correcting here – opportunity or falling knife?
Methinks patience is prudent.
It’s going to be a long time before I can convert my silver stash to gold. But I’m patient.
Wanting $40 or $50 silver is a pipe dream these daze. No Chinese buyers, do they tariff our bullion? India? Our biggest export nowadays are illegal aliens, or legal depends who u ask and once gone they’re gone, not missed yet….
Why? I thought you converted a long time ago?
In my best, MONSTER Truck/Moto Cross/Wrestling advertisement, radio “Voice”!!! “Hello and Welcome SPORTS FAaNZs, to today’s PMC SMACK DOWN! AANNNDDd NOWw! LET’s Get RReady to RRRrrUUuhMmBBUULLL…, Do you think you can “BEAR” it? A folding chair has been thrown into the ring and is now being used as a device of Destruction! There is “Reddd” everywhere…Nothing is being spared… KEEP in mind, for those having an exclusive ticket to this MAIN EEvent, that you were “sold the Whole seat, but you’ll only need the EEDDDdddgge!!! As voice trails off to Vrrooming motors or celebratory fans roaring…or Boos/Booze..hiss“ You might want… Read more »
To funny with your ready to rumble comparison. Also, Thank you for the link. Being the optimist, everything is on sale. My money now goes further. Good thing I held off buying some bullion. Might need to back up the truck and load up on a few items. Maybe I can find someone selling rhodium at a decent price as something interesting to add to my collection. And, by the way, I am entertained!
Rhodium is cheap, color some gold! Jewelers are ok w lo price. Pt will be a buy @$800, Monday!!!!
Cute Rick, but My drink is Royal a crown, good thing I stocked up. Japanese and German beers, Bud yuck.l.lCoors ok, time to rebrew the Olympia beer.
what lose like $10k apple alone, still way above acquisition price but :>{
Stick with the Crown JQ, and Bud? they’re on the straight & narrow now. Modelo is good.
Apple has commited 1B in jobs & factories on American soil, and when the DOW is over 50k within a year from now, you’ll be a Happy Camper once again.
Gold:Silver ratio 102:1
A Black Friday for the World Markets Today.
Wall Street is Painted in Red Again.
Waiting for the Bottom. (4/14/2024)
I’ve nibbled at a few stock on sale today. The problem ‘waiting’ for the bottom is when you assume it’s been reached the market has added 5-10% gains in a heartbeat….just like it does when it reaches a top, only in reverse! Personally, I’ve always done well when I buy with my stomach all in knots. Lol Cheers
The DOW is down 5.5% today (38,314 at the close). Down 14.99% from its all-time high (45,073). We are now deep into a textbook market correction. Investors around the world are dashing to cash (i.e. money markets and short-term treasuries) and investors in Gold are taking profits. Monday’s open on 4/7/2025 will tell all. The US economy produced 220K new jobs in March, a 52% surprise from initial estimates.
E 1, Silver and Gold had a wild, tariffing ride today. The Live 24 Hour Gold Price experienced a $121 drop from the day’s high of $3,136.61 to the day’s low of $3,015.56, ending at $3,038, and the 24 Hour Silver Price fell $2.79 from the day’s high of $31.97 to the day’s low of $29.18, ending at $29.53. The corresponding 24 Hour Gold to Silver Ratio moved up from a low of 97.31 to a high of 103.51, ending at 102.89.
Monday will be a pivotal day for the markets. I’m hoping one (or a few) of the countries imposing prohibitive tariffs on us come to a favourable resolution over the weekend to calm the frenzy occurring in the markets. I was looking for a pullback to buy some positions I’m interested in, but man, I wasn’t expecting what transpired this week. As they say ‘Never a dull moment’. Cheers
Is Uncle Joe now a business owner?
Crowds, stadiums, and rallies came up with the chant “F**K Joe Biden” a couple of years ago. The chant was conveniently spun into the “Let’s go Brandon” chant at a certain NASCAR Race, and the rest is history…
Just to improve our overall scope of the market, maybe Cag would like to share his observations on today’s market activity too?
April 2, 2025, before the tariff announcement, Gold:Silver was 92:1 and two trading days later Gold:Silver was 103:1.
There have only been 51 days in history where Gold:Silver has traded above 100:1 and 50 of those days were during COVID.
10 year Treasury went from high of 4.22% on Wednesday to low of 3.89% today.
Yesterday EURUSD traded in one day, the second worst decline in the past 10 years.
Just shows how much a recession is being factored into the equation.
Cag,
Now the big question is, will there be a near term Rate Cut by the FED? Recent falling commodity prices equates to dis-inflation. Petroleum is also down 7% today. OPEC announced it is increasing production in May with a $50/barrel price target. Cheap gas equates to low inflation. The “Tariff Hit List” will most likely be adjusted downward in the coming weeks as deals are made. China will remain at the top of the hit list though. Between now and then, the FED may need to CUT to contain the stock market. Any thoughts?
Let’s Ask Copilot…
Q: Will the federal reserve need to cut interest rates to contain the stock market after the big April 4th drop?
A: “The Federal Reserve’s decision to cut interest rates will depend on several factors, including the broader economic outlook, inflation trends, and the severity of the stock market drop. Following the April 4th plunge, traders are betting on multiple rate cuts this year, with some expecting up to four reductions. However, the Fed may wait until June to begin easing rates, as recent job growth has been stronger than anticipated.”
Sources: nbcwashington.com, U.S. News Money,
Let’s Ask Copilot more… Q: How would a low interest rate environment benefit the US government? A: A low interest rate environment can be advantageous for the U.S. government in several ways: 1.Reduced Borrowing Costs: The government can issue bonds at lower interest rates, which decreases the cost of servicing its debt. This is particularly beneficial given the size of the federal debt. 2.Stimulated Economic Growth: Lower interest rates encourage borrowing and investment by businesses and consumers, which can lead to higher economic activity and increased tax revenues. 3.Flexibility in Fiscal Policy: With reduced debt servicing costs, the government has… Read more »
Let’s Ask Copilot More…. Q: How do low interest rates stimulate economic growth? A: Low interest rates stimulate economic growth by making borrowing cheaper and saving less attractive, which encourages spending and investment. Here’s how it works: 1.Increased Consumer Spending: With lower interest rates on loans, consumers find it more affordable to borrow money for big-ticket purchases like houses, cars, or education. This boosts demand across various industries. 2.Higher Business Investments: Businesses can access cheaper credit to expand operations, invest in new projects, or upgrade technology. This can lead to increased productivity and job creation. 3.Improved Housing Market: Lower mortgage… Read more »
Last One for Copilot… Q: What sectors benefit most from low interest rates? A: Low interest rates can have a particularly positive impact on certain sectors, as they make borrowing cheaper and encourage spending and investment. Here are some sectors that typically benefit the most: 1.Real Estate and Construction: Lower mortgage rates make homebuying more affordable, which boosts demand for housing. This, in turn, drives construction and other related industries like home improvement and materials. 2.Automotive Industry: Reduced interest rates on auto loans make purchasing vehicles more appealing, increasing sales and stimulating the sector. 3.Financial Services: While banks may see… Read more »
“Now the big question is, will there be a near term Rate Cut by the FED?” The question hinges on the word “near”. Currently the betting market is saying a 70% chance of a Fed cut in June. I don’t think the Fed will bail out the stock market unless you see continue 5% declines on Monday and Tuesday. When Powell started his Q&A yesterday the Dow was down 1400 to 1500 and the 10 year Treasury was 3.90ish. The Dow closed down 2231.07 and the 10 year Treasury closed @ 4.019%. The backup in yields across the board (2… Read more »
I think I’m just gonna ride it out on the cheap dividends and the interest. I have no vision for GLD at the moment.
Good attitude E1, the best one in this entire thread by a mile.
Thanks Rick and likewise as well my good buddy. Man, I think we’ve been posting together for almost three years now. Time flies when you’re having fun.
Cheers
Nice!
I’m certainly not seeing it at the pump. Gasoline is up over 30 cents in the last two weeks. But, in mitigation, it ALWAYS goes up in the weeks leading up to Memorial Day. It usually levels off from Memorial Day to July 4. Then, it drops into the Fall unless a hurricane hits the gulf. Oh, and it goes up when stations change over to a winter-grade fuel. This is all to say that the price of gas isn’t necessarily a measure of much of anything other than fairly predictable cycles. That’s why it’s kind of funny when people… Read more »
Entirely agree.
Agreed. It will take decades to fix what has been broken just in the last two months.
Winners today! Milk .18%, Methanol 2.07%, Titanium 1.04%, Rice .27%, Tea 1.27, Rapeseed .11%, Corn .65%, Polyvinyl .44%, Polypropylene .60%, Manganese 3.31%, Beef .93%, Eggs .11%, SSE Consume Commodity Index .28%, in the green! 13 up and 62 other commodities/items in the RED from the “Trading Economics” website link I provided in the “radio spot” post above. That equates to roughly 86% of listings on the page, that were even(13) or in the red.
I was shopping at the local Asian grocery store Monday after work picking up a couple things. I had planned to pay with the card, but noticed the person in front of me got some shiny cents and quarters in change so I paid with cash. I struck out on the quarters, but did get 2 brand new 2025 Philly cents. I’m not sure which bank they use. Two weeks ago I was at my bank and asked the cashier if he had any Halves or two dollar bills. I love spending those. He didn’t have any Halves, but I… Read more »
Great about your half dollars. I was wondering where they went to. Congratulations on your finds!
The expectation that markets only go up and recessions should never happen are ridiculously naïve. The markets have not seen a significant correction (bear market) since Covid. If you look at the S&P 500, the 3 year uptrend line has not even been broken. It’s time to catch your breath and remember the old ditty Spinning Wheel.
Truth. An own goal at its worst.
DaveSWFL, How about we just play it for you.
David Clayton Thomas? Now that guy can sing.
REB,
That video was produced in 1969, fifty-Six years ago. Thomas is now 83 years old. He was born in 1941. He is older than most of my coins.
Wow! I had no idea that he was still alive. There were so many good voices in that era. Gary Puckett of the Union Gap anyone? B.J. Thomas? Tom Jones? Any of the Temptations? And don’t get me started with the songcraft of popular songs at the time ….
The Man from Wales…..Tom Jones!
Everyone of my clients get the same message from me when they start:
“If you lose $20,000 on Monday, you lose $20,000 on Tuesday, you lose $20,000 on Wednesday, what do you do on Thursday?”
I had one client call me yesterday and quoted back my line except they said “What do I do on Monday?”
Virtually all my clients lost over $20k on Thursday and $20k on Friday. The only ones that didn’t were clients that have the majority of their retirement in Treasuries.
One thing about Thursday and Friday…
…I didn’t have time to do much more than answer phone calls or messages…
VinnieC and others, Rick said in the previous thread: “BTW, the Bullion Exchange “coming soon” certified Eagle Privy ASEs are listed as PCGS graded instead of NGC holdered from Bullion Shark, for those who prefer PCGS.” Rick, the 1 of First 50,000 labels or slabs we’d been talking about, as best I could tell are indeed the NGC ones? Here is a whole page of them with the “pic coming soon” images, now populated and with the coins pictured. There are 2025 PCGS Eagle Privy slabs, however not with the overinflated/“high priced”, much sought after on the secondary market, 8(8th),… Read more »
Thanks for the “Public Service Announcement”, and the deep dive above & below. I am now 110% Disinterested in these coins at this time, just me. Nothing personal to you Cali, it’s a joke of a marketing ploy(imo) for all that are involved with this release.
Imitator version for any curious. Real coin, real slab, just not the highly sought after NGC 8 ERA 1 of First 50,000 label that started this American Silver Eagle privy craze last year. So you will see this label on both last years “Star Privy” coins and this years “Eagle Privy” coins. The market could flip, however last years NGC 8 ERA 1 of First 50,000 are the ones that were and still are fetching $350-$500 on the secondary market, versus any of the other 20 plus labels. BTW, the presale on last years “2024 (P) Silver Eagle NGC MS70… Read more »
There’s an app coming for that. LOL!
AND… This is the one(pic below) that is still garnering attention on the secondary market, in case you’re following along. Again, it’s the 8 ERA label(Blue) and the Nice Gang game itself, is called the “Eighth(8th) ERA”. Again Be VERY, Very, careful and know what it is you are buying. A prime example is that some sellers on the secondary market advertise their coin like this: “2024 W NGC MS 70 SILVER EAGLE EARLY RELEASES FIRST STAR PRIVY”. In this instance the only thing that has an actual “Star” is the label and not the coin. This is one of… Read more »
No need to pity me for not knowing a f-ing thing about labels. I’m not gonna play that game. No extra money from me for a fancy piece of paper in a plastic holder! Can’t believe they’ve turned the hobby into such a circus 🙁
Agree.
Don’t forget the CAC label as well. It’ll die down and return to what it really is about, numismatics.
lol.
Sharks2th, thanks for sharing your coin finds at the Asian grocery store above! Congratulations on your 2 brand new 2025 Philly cents! Also pretty cool the cashier at the bank offered to hook you up with a couple boxes of Kennedy halves! A couple questions and some thoughts. Was there something specific you were picking up at the Asian grocery store? I love Asian food, cooking Asian food and know sometimes certain items can only be sourced there? Also, do you have a business account with that bank? I wondered, since if any normal(non business acct) bank customers ask about… Read more »
How about 2024 Nickels? Especially from the Denver Mint.
The 2025 1C coins are certainly at a lower mintage when you compare them with the other 1C production numbers in recent years. But are they done with the 2025’s yet?
The 2024 1C might also be something to keep an eye on in the coming months? It could end up being at a lower number than the 2025 1C? Stay tuned.
No, nothing is scarce or rare in the chart below, just taking a look at things…
Beautiful Display of Gem Unc Half Dollars Old Guy.
Love it, E1.
Dave and REB,
Thanks, I started hobbling that set carefully together back in the early 90’s. Mostly from rolls and mint sets. I recently finished it last year with Rick’s motivation. A couple of the most difficult coins were crack out MS-65FBLs. The 53-S is not an FBL but may grade MS-66. The set is complete, the album is fresh, and it is a work of art. The proof cameo set is nearing completion and that will be slabbed in the end.
Cheers
Cali – I like to pick up veggies and the different sauces at the Asian grocery. We have a few here in the DMV area – Lotte, HMart and some smaller ones. I got a great viewt nam spice I use in stir fry veggies with noodles. The veggies tend to be a better price a lot of the time compared to the American chain grocery stores. Only Aldi and Lidl tend to be competitive with the Asian markets on veggie prices. I may post my half dollar box results above and below since there were other comments on those.… Read more »
That vietnamese powder I add to stir fry is actually made in USA.
I only add 1/2 to 1 tsp. It is a pretty strong flavor but does not taste like Indian curry. It more like Thai spices.
Thanks for the response and my mouth is now watering, thinking about the taste of a stirfy noodle dish using this spice with some hoi sin! Yum! Chicken, baby bok choy, mushroom, broccoli, onion, celery, carrots, water chestnuts, red bell pepper, some fresh ground black pepper, ginger and garlic, soy sauce, chicken broth, and voila, super yum!
Hey Cali, Like Homer Simpson drooling – haha. Those are the same ingredients I use most of the time. It varies occasionally based on what I have on hand. I like to use the glassy rice noodles that you put in boiling water for a minute and they are done. I also use Oyster sauce and fish sauce for stir fry seasoning, not usually at the same time though. The fish sauce goes well with that Vietnamese powder. Shrimp, chicken strips or chunks or pork strips are good additions, as well as occasionally pineapple. I also get the Chinese black… Read more »
Stir fry…
You’re definitely on it, with the ingredients! I don’t cook enough stir fry to splurge on the oyster and fish sauce, however my Dads stir fry’s back in the day had those ingredients! He’d make stir fry at least once a week! Being in the Navy, he spent a fair amount of time over seas and picked up his affinity for Asian cuisine as a result. Too funny, as that shot of Homer is pretty much how I’m feeling! My Mom made a really good hot and sour soup as well, however just using white vinegar. Thanks again for the… Read more »
Looks Yummie!
Cali – Back when the presidential dollars and state quarters were out I would get an entire box most times. I think the bank was required to have those on hand. That stopped around the 2011 Hayes dollars. Those were the last ones where I got the entire box.
Sharks2th, you got me thinking and I had to look back to see when the US Mint was mandated discontinue minting 10’s of millions of those Presidential dollars, due to lack of circulation, need and having a back-stock/hoard of 20+ years. 2012 is when the finally stopped producing MASS quantities and then they were only made for collectors. Anyhow for any wanting a refresher or in depth article by noted MNB/Cweek, other numismatic publications assuredly, by none other than our noted Louis Golino, do a search for “ Coin Analyst Special Report: Circulation-Strike Presidential Dollar Program Halted by Obama Administration”… Read more »
The last one I was able to get were the 2013 Hayes. I checked my inventory list and I did not get any bulk dollars after that one. I have a lot of unsearched dollar rolls that may have some missing edge lettering, but who knows. Maybe I’ll have time to check them when I retire – haha.
Your right about that. I have too many projects on my list and I haven’t retired yet.
sharks2th,
I share Antonio and Cali’s sentiments, nice work with the Half Dollar rolls. The old & new mixture of coins is where it’s at. I too, have been shutout in the Silver dept in the CRH hobby, but that was 10+ yrs ago. So you finding Silver now is good to hear!. I’ll predict that you’ll find more Silver within the 87 rolls left. Keep us posted!
Did 2 boxes (sealed) last year and NADA 🙁
Shark, since you brought up the 40% 1968-D Half, you piqued my interest a bit, as I’ve been on the lookout for all 8 of the Silver coins from 1964-70 in the crusty/crackled toned varieties(5 so far). The ’68-D is one of the higher minted coins, but it doesn’t have a P-minted sibling, same thing with the ’69-D, and ’70-D coins. My ’68-D toner below, is the mildest toned coin of the the group. A couple of questions for anyone: 1) What causes this mild/medium type of toning? It has not been circulated. 2) “GTG”(Guess The Grade), I’ll reveal the… Read more »
PS: The scratch above the Eagles left wing is on the plastic holder.
The coin was graded and holdered 10 years ago, according to the PCGS Museum of coin holders.
Rick here is a very informative piece over on Coin Talk website, titled:”What You Need to Know About: The Science of Toning”. Generated by member, “physics-fan3.14”.(December 22, 2009). There are also 5 pages of comments and pictures to read/go through! BTW Louie Lot, another member, a few comments down(CT) also mentions link to another good link/post on: “Rainbow Toning’s effect on price” He wrote: Combine this with this thread, (by Lehigh96, left out so I wouldn’t trigger Awaiting Approval) and you have a lot of good info on toned coins. Thanks for the awesome thread!” PS I would love to… Read more »
Results of 2 boxes of half dollars: The “bad” news first – The second box was all new 2024P Kennedys The first box had the following: 1970s 14 rolls 1974D 5 coins, no DDO 1776-1976 4 rolls 1980s 5.5 rolls (1 1983 No FG) 1990s 5.5 rolls, a few BU coins in those 2000s 1 roll 2015 & 2018 1 coin each 2020P&D mixed 1 roll 2021P&D mixed 1 roll 2022 3 P coins 2023 4 P rolls, 11.5 D rolls (No DDO Ps) 2024 1 P roll The good stuff 1965 – 1 BU coin 1967 – 2 BU… Read more »
Awesome Sharks2th and thanks for the excellent detailed report on what you found! That is really cool of you to report back with information, that I’m sure many were interested in hearing about! You get the coin News, “On a Roll” award for April!
So it is now Crypto’s turn… “A right, a left,’ followed by a solid left hook and uppercut to the jaw”! A lot of Red these days and will anyone attempt to catch the falling knife? Maybe just stick a foot out to protect those pristine wood floors? Don’t do it! I once tried to break the fall of a hot iron, with a bare foot… Didn’t work out so “hot”, pun intended. LOL Just a reaction to something falling and wanting the carpet to not get a burn mark I guess? Something was going to get burned and it… Read more »
Nice reply! I’ll never understand the racial hatred and discrimination against people of any color – even white (no color?). Grew up in Ohio in the 50s & 60s and did a lot of head scratching over what we saw on TV from down South. And I wasn’t alone, most of my classmates felt the same.
I’d say just my two cents worth, but I just can’t find P orD 2025s anywhere.
They’ll come up eventually.
He and his brother, Edgar, were kind of white.
Cali, Donna Summer’s “Hot Stuff”, the best one I could find.
Cali, Also, Not Bob Marley, but his brother Ziggy Marley.
Question for the group. I was looking to buy a nice type $20 Liberty and st. gold. Certified. A common date for each at a 64 or 65 grade. What I am seeing is prices not much more than bullion for MS61-63 and a 65 offered at less than a 2025 1oz proof gold Eagle. It makes me wonder if the numismatic side of the collecting is in a decline and straight bullion or mint gimmicks seem to be where the future lies. Buy backs for these $20 gold coins is below spot. Perhaps the best use of my money… Read more »
Look for better dates for the saints. Also look for MS65 and higher to keep ahead of spot during this fire sale. Or look at CC for extra Numi clout.
Cag once said, buy the pre-33 that matters. He favors Wall St Paper GLD now? And I could be wrong.
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1112582/current-gold-prices-and-buying-saint-gaudens-20-better-dates#latest
Gold:Silver ratio 99:1
20%? Same percentage ? Big difference?
Over the weekend someone told me “I had $10 million in stocks and now I have $8 million.”
Another person had $100k and now has $80k.
Same percentage. Big difference.
The percentage with ZERO in stocks swamps those well to do fortunates. They are not panicked. Life just goes on and they get up, go to work, and care for their families. To much of America the only things that matter are the debt and their freedom. We need to eliminate one and cherish the other. For decades, Our government has sadly chosen the wrong way
Amen Brother Dave!
The sky is falling, the sky is falling!! What you say is all very true in the long term. Totally false in the short term. Let’s not become lemmings to the media hype. Rome was not built in a day and did not fall in a day. They say doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is the definition of insanity. We’ve been doing that now for decades. Time for change – never easy, but nevertheless necessary if the country is to survive! Time to take deep breath and give things a chance. America survived… Read more »
Couldn’t agree more Dave. I’ve been concerned for decades about our growing deficit and with the amount of money (over $1T) to service this $36T debt, the time for change has come. But until most Americans feel the pain of this deficit and have to really consider the individuals we put (and continue to reelect) in leadership positions, nothing will change…in my humble opinion. If I had my way, there’d be a 2 or 3 term limit of everyone in government.
Your sentiments are shared by many, Dave and Craig. In that many believe our “Forefathers”, never meant(?) for Congress the Presidency, or other government positions, to ever be a “career” move.
Dave,
The “Chicken Little” comparison is fitting for the Trump hating, Elite Globalists’ that lurk amongst us. They’ve doubled down on their hope that America will fail. Very sad.
There is a new catchphrase that best describes these “Chicken Little”, “America last” types.
Their new nickname is “Panican”….
<eyes rolling out of my head>
They only ‘had’ the two if they sold. The markets are turning and are now in the ‘green’. I like buying in major selloffs. I don’t think this turmoil is over just yet, but I’m not panicking either.
Craig, This morning was much better than I thought it would be. But the world is changing. The DOW down 1.7% for the day (4/7/2025 9:30AM PT).
E1,
Today ended much better than I was expecting before trading opened. The positions I nibbled at on Friday even ended in the green. I’m not a sailor by any stretch, but I have to say I felt a little seasick after today’s action. God only knows what the rest of the week will be like but if Donald is right about countries vying to negotiate the tariffs down, then maybe it won’t be Armageddon! I need a strong martini tonight. Cheers
Craig,
Talks tonight of Trump going “Zero for Zero” tariffs with the EU and the FED making an emergency interest rate cut in the next day or two or three leads me to think a big snap back is coming SOON! Also, tonight, Futures are already up 2%. Might be a good time to revisit NVDA and AMZN. An organic light beer for me.
Cheers
E1,
Attitude is everything, and your attitude is positive, so keep up the good work!
Doom & Gloom is not something that you engage in or promote. Your Worldview is Bright, not Dark. Good on you!
Stay the course my friend, tend to those Cameo Coins, and you will stay happy!
Rick,
Thanks Good Buddy. Funny thing you mentioned those Franklin Cameos. I was just going over what I have so far. Of course this is just preliminary and I have to start somewheres. But the ball is rolling and I’ve been hobbling this set together. I was going to buy another one today. But with all of the market calamity, I decided to wait a little bit. However, “The Show Must Go On.”
Cheers Bro
Sorry about that. The photo didn’t go through. I had to reduce it. One more try.
E1,
I always enjoy seeing photos of your Franklins. They have always been my favourite half dollar (Walking Liberty a very close 2nd!) and I have been picking up a few here and there since the mint has screwed up their business model. Those Franklins in Ag are just timeless!
Craig,
Thanks. Especially timeless in Cameo.
Cheers
E1,
NVDA is one of the stocks I bought on Friday. It looks like we’re in for a nice bounce today, but you know how things can change by closing time. It would be a very positive signal if the Chinese would come to the negotiation table for an ‘honest’ dialogue. I put honest in quotes because I’ve never liked or trusted the Chinese Communist Party. BTW, what is ‘an organic’ light beer? If I want a beer, I’ll open a good ole Guinness stout. Cheers
Craig, Yes. It is a nice sunny day on Wall Street today (4/8/2025) and classic half dollars are the best. CC Morgans are a close second.
In today’s world, ‘organic’ usually refers to a growing condition absent of the use of pesticides. But when I look at vegetables labelled as ‘organic’ I’m always suspicious about that because they always look better than the ones treated for insects and diseases. But as we all know, the label never lies. Right? Cheers
In Academia, Organic Chemistry or O-Chem, refers to compounds that contain Carbon and Hydrogen (CH2, CH3, CH4 or Methyl’s). Compounds of such nature include alcohols, solvents, fuels, fertilizers, pesticides, preservatives, some medicines, and plastics. In the field of FDA Certified Organic Farming – the produce, the seeds, and the soils used to grow such ag-born products must be devoid of all organic compounds such a herbicides, pesticides, fertilizers, preservatives, paraffins, and petroleum products. It would be scientifically correct and proper to use the term inorganic produce. But for marketing purposes, the term “Organic Produce” is globally used instead. If you… Read more »
As for Organic Beers and Wines…..The feedstock used to produce such beverages must be grown without herbicides, pesticides, fertilizers, and petroleum products. The finished bottled beverage itself must be free of preservatives as well. However, beer and wine, in a theoretical sense, is a weak methyl. Some Asian brewers, such as Singha Beer, they use Formaldehyde as a preservative and this causes a severe headache. Some European brewers use a much higher alcohol content as a preservative and this causes little to no headache, but increases the likelihood of organ damage. Some American brewers, such as Coors, use no preservatives.… Read more »
I’ve always thought that Buckingham was the beating heart of that group. Without his vocals, guitar work, and production, Fleetwood Mac likely would have stayed a relatively obscure fusion rock band.
One doesn’t have to sugar coat it, although not necessarily a bad idea, however has any one heard of BCS? That my friends, not to be confused with “Bowl Championship Series, is what is known as Bitter Coffee Syndrome! Although the NCAA BCS, also had similar effect on fans from 1998-2013. Drinking some unsavory coffee, ends in the same result, as the one seen on the man’s face, from the “Keystone Light” beer commercials. Not sure about the beer or some utterance’s, however the irony and possible correlation is uncanny IMO. Bitter coffee typically results from over-extraction, where too much… Read more »
CaliSkier,
I’m glad I grind my own beans! You sure come up with some good ones! LoL.
I saw over the weekend the 2025 1879 and 1880 Coiled Hair ‘Stella’ Au commemorative coins (graded PR 70 by NGC) being offered for just a hair under $6K. At just 499 pressed, these comms are truly rare. With everything going to hell these days, are there any takers for these beautiful items? Oh, they also offered a 5 ounce version in Ag for the low, low price of just $999! I believe the shows reasoning for why you need to buy these replicas is because you can’t afford to buy one of the few (very few) original coins. At… Read more »
Load up on a bunch of these(Strict limit of 5))Craig! After all, there is 14 mgs of 24KT Gold ‘on’ each and every “Proof”!…
71.42857 coins to get a gram of gold.
2221.67857 coins to get an ounce of gold.
Then you have to pay to purify the dust off of those coins – haha.
Rick,
What’s the melt value for those 14mgs of Au…about .87c! Where’s my phone! LOL
LOL Craig! However, if Sharks2th calculations are correct, my computations say the value on those scant 14 mgm would be just under $1.36/14mgm. A whopping $.58 more than your guesstimate. Haha Your price needs a 55% premium markup. For comparisons sake USM PF AGE’s have roughly a 31% premium over current spot melt. I vote Craig for being in charge of US Mint gold pricing, as we could save almost 25% vs what they charge today based on spot at $3010.60.(Kitco when I began crunching numbers, LOL) With Craig in charge, you could be picking up PF AGE’s, for around… Read more »
$3185 sounds good to me for a 1 oz AGE CaliSkier. Now we just have to come to agreement on my salary for U.S.Mint employment! LoL
Rick said ” Cag once said, buy the pre-33 that matters. He favors Wall St Paper GLD now? And I could be wrong.” Here is the context for “matters”: December 26, 2023 @CoinCollector57 says,”Cagcrisp, why do you believe the proof 1/10 and 1oz AGE are good investments?” Current grid pricing for the Unavailable 2023 1/10 oz. American Gold Eagle proof = $335.00. Comparable pre ’33 United States Gold That Matters would put the price for the 1/10 oz. Type 2 Gold at ~ $712.00 Today. Current grid pricing for the Unavailable 2023 1 oz. American Gold Eagle proof = $2,900.00.… Read more »
cagcrisp, why only the 1/10 oz. and 1 oz., and not the 1/4 oz. and 1/2 oz. fractional gold coins? Did your comparative analysis of the 1/4 oz. and 1/2 oz. American Gold Eagle proofs not show similar good bargain values for the 1/10 oz. and 1 oz. Type 2 Gold proofs?
No. You are better off purchasing the bullion versions of the 1/2 oz. and 1/4 oz. American Gold Eagles vs. paying the premium for the proofs.
Still not seeing the upside for the type 2 proofs 1oz or 1/10 oz. 2023 4 coin set can be had for $6k and some change. Other than the increase in spot gold no real advantage. Perhaps the 2025 gold proof could be a good buy with the low mintage. 2021 type 1 gold proofs surprisingly seem to do well. Hopefully the mint lowers the pricing grid this week.
Appreciate the explanation and recommendation.
Again on December 23, 2023:
For YEARS and YEARS on MNB I pounded the table on pre ’33 Gold.
You have Not seen any posts from me in awhile pounding the table on pre ’33 Gold.
Why?
I do Not see any bargains in the pre ’33 United States Gold That Matters…
The last reference to “matters” on December 23, 2023:
@John Q. Coinage says,”What do you mean gold that matters pre 33? ”
Certain Modern United States Mint Gold coins do Not Matter.
Certain pre ’33 United States Mint Gold coins do Not Matter.
I am comparing the Current two United States Mint Gold coins that DO matter to pre ’33 Gold coins that DO matter.
Apples to Apples…
Hope you bought good tickets? The PMC&C SMACKDOWN continues! Down in front, so I can get a better view! Thanks… BTW, PMC&C is Precious Metals, Commodities & Crypto.
The most important market move of the day is the 10 year Treasury.
Low of 3.865%
High of 4.197%
Currently 4.173% Up 16.4 basis points.
IF the 10 year continues up, that’s a game changer…
The Flowing Hair silver medals are gaining value. I good investment for what mine cost me.
Nice job Antonio. The coin community at large agrees with you, so do I.
The FH program was a success for the Mint, and the collectors that bought them.
I just pulled a chart from CACgrading today, and pricing is up after 4-5 mos. They follow Greysheet pricing benchmarks.
The largest increases since Jan was Your Medal(It Doubled!), and the Gold Privy(+9k), The Silver Privy, and std Gold FH remained flat …
Coin Vault has 1st of 50,000 (the rare one’s) 2025 ‘eagle privy’ ASE’s graded MS69 by NGC for $80. Where are all the MS70’s? And why are the graders grading them at only MS69. Aren’t these usually returned and sold as BU.
E1, as Rick duly noted above: “Beautiful Display of Gem Unc Half Dollars”. Now a question about your Franklin’s? Is your 1955 P a 90 degree rotated die error, loose coin album, or just “cattywampusly” re-housed after your last viewing? LOL
Cali,
The 55-P is loose in the album. I would fix it, but I sealed the edges of each page of the album with HD Transparent Scotch Tape. Interesting Cat you have there.
Cheers
Well, I thought it might be worth the effort? WRONG! I decided to download the Nice Gang, video game to try and buy one of the 2025 “Eighth ERA” (P) ASE Eagle Privy 1 in First 50K MS70 coins from them. Oh well can’t blame me for trying, however they were sold out. Not only that, I can’t imagine what they were being sold for? They were offering the MS69’s for $250! Holy crap! The exact same coin can currently be purchased from SD Bullion for $69.99. So at least I only wasted time and no money. So needless to… Read more »
I stand corrected and have an update on those Nice Gang Video game 2025 Eagle privy coins above. Apparently for $250, you’d receive 5 MS69 coins with a limit of 10 orders per household. No the, moment. The MS70’s apparently could have been purchased 2 ways. 1 MS70 for $100, however those also had a 10 per order household limit,’which meant they sold out fairly fast. Bummer….‘or they offered an option. Umber 2, which consisted of 1, MS70 and 4 MS69’s for a total of 5 coins for $350, with the same limit of 10 bundles of 5 coins per… Read more »
w/e 04/07/2025 sales:
2025 American Eagle Gold Proof 1 oz. 1584
2025 American Eagle Gold Proof ½ oz. 701
2025 American Eagle Gold Proof ¼ oz. 839
2025 American Eagle Gold Proof 1/10 oz. 3066
2025 American Eagle Gold Proof 4 coin set 1989
w/e 04/07/2025 variance from w/e 03/31/2025:
2025 American Eagle Gold Proof 1 oz. 98
2025 American Eagle Gold Proof ½ oz. 60
2025 American Eagle Gold Proof ¼ oz. 54
2025 American Eagle Gold Proof 1/10 oz. 682
2025 American Eagle Gold Proof 4 coin set 33
10 year Treasury currently trading @ 4.257 up 8 basis points.
Not what you want to see…
When the rate goes up, people (or institutions/Countries) are dumping the bonds. Speculation now that China might be dumping them as retribution for our 104% tariff. If no one wants to buy our lovely debt….
Craig, Communist China is a psychopathic government that needs to be detached and isolated from the free world. The theft of our intellectual property, the manipulation of trade and currency, the economic betrayal after bringing them into prosperity, and the strong-arm military practices in Southeast Asia thereafter says it all. For decades I’ve been saying China is a problem and it will always be a problem. We should have never helped them and we should have never trusted them. The sooner they are isolated and detached from us the better. I do not own any panda coins and I tell… Read more »
E1,
Great minds think alike! I try to buy as little as possible from China. Some things, like my iPhone and pharmaceuticals are only made there, so I have no choice. And to be clear, I don’t dislike the Chinese people (those Chinese females are hot. Just ask Eric Swalwell) but I certainly despise the Communist Party. Does anyone think the Chinese are building up the military so quickly because they’re afraid Japan is going to invade them!
Craig,
The DOW is up 2,459 Today (4/9/2025 11:02AM PT). US stocks skyrocketed higher Wednesday after President Donald Trump authorized a 90-day pause on all the reciprocal tariffs that went into effect at midnight, with the exception of China.
Bingo E1(your Communist China post above).
Rick, It is probably a good time for all of us to know who we do business with: Temu is a Chinese-owned e-commerce company, specifically operated by PDD Holdings, which also owns the Chinese e-commerce platform Pinduoduo. Etsy is an American e-commerce company founded in the United States, with its headquarters in Brooklyn, New York. Alibaba Group is headquartered in Hangzhou, Zhejiang, China and owned by Jack Ma. A Chinese born Communist Party Affiliate. Ma earned a Bachelor of Arts degree in English from Hangzhou Normal University. eBay is an American multinational e-commerce company headquartered in San Jose, California, and… Read more »